Maybe he wants Giggs as manager. Then he would be a coach. Unfortunately if it all goes tits up Giggs might be gone as well. Giggs shouldn't even be there. LvG should have been able to pick his own assistant manager. Not have to employ Giggs. We have played one game. Good job we didn't dump the kids after start to 95-96 season, a lot of the side on Saturday is still young, some very young. Just what they need for condidence is a club legend saying they are shit.If he wants to question things, let them play a few games. See if LvG gets it right. He is a notoriously slow starter. Worry about it if things don't pick up. We were ravaged by injuries, get them back and things should pick up.
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That's exactly what it is.
I wouldn't go that far. We finished 2nd season before that and had Fergie.
True and just because we have dominated for two decades, dont think it cant happen, look what happened to Liverpool.
Anderson is. Young has 2 years left.
feck! Two years? Thats going to be a long 24 months. Also hope we don't renew Anderson's contract. There is absolutely no use. Just got to take the hit of £16m or whatever we spent on him and write it off. Lets not give him a contract and hope someone will sign him in the hope of reducing our loss.
Get a fecking grip. The squad in awful shape? Some of you are seriously embarrassing.
Not reliable apparently.
Never thought I'd say it but I wish Scholes would keep his moth shut.
I don't know why its embarrassing, Van Gaal has said as much in a polite manner saying that the squad is very unbalanced in some positions.
He got a something wrong this summer? Never heard of him before.
he will after Vidal join us.
until then, he should keep pushing for improvement on our squad.
Scholes is absolutely fecking right.
Saying the squad is unbalanced is quite different to saying it's in a disgraceful state and basically saying it's a shit squad. It's the usual overreactions by spoiled United fans who can't see how good we've had it and how good we'll likely continue to have it. I don't think there's any doubt there's a few areas we need work on, there's no fecking chance this squad is terrible though.
Yup. If we were a cartoon character. we'd be Dumbo. Great ears, but nothing in between.
He'll get plenty of publicity tomorrow. Talksport will be all over it and ripping us to pieces as they have for days. It's not the players fault we have too many No 10's. It's not their fault the defence is inexperienced. It's not their fault we don't sign top players to keep fans happy. They need support or you will have exactly the same scenario as last season because they will think even their own fans are against them. If you want to moan , ask who thought it was a good idea to sign all these No. 10's, who let the team deteriorate to this extent? That is the point. LvG is having to deal with what there is at the moment.
I don't know, it gets depressing to watch Fletcher at half his usual capabilities being first choice and forcing wingers and CMs to cover for a right back position where the starter hasn't ever stayed fit in his life.
Oh some People wanted SAF to retire that summer as well. Isn't that article about how he had lost it etc.. bumped. Season before that we had been knocked out in group stages of CL finishing bottom of a weak group and just managed to get into top 3 on the back of a good run with Giggs - O'shea in midfield and Silvestre in defense having a good run.
Vidic and Evra were already declared flops based on their early form after January and Scholes was uncertain due to eye injury. On top of that Rooney/Ronaldo fell out at the World cup and Ronaldo apparently wanted a move etc.. and half our fans wanted to sell him as well as English contingent was more important and he was inconsistent till then. Remember some Real Madrid president candidate making him a election pledge as well for 25 million pounds.
And SAF had fallen out with our top scorer in Ruud along with Ronaldo having fallouts with Ruud, so he had to be sold and we didn't buy a replacement relying on a Injury prone Zaha and Rooney up front basically.
To Make it worse after back to back titles Chelsea had signed Ballack, Shevchenko among a bunch of players while our fans looked enviously as we signed only a underwhelming Michael Carrick after not spending much for 2 summers before that as well. (They even hijacked Mikel)
SAF turned it around and read the situation and well and made it work after that leading to our most successful spell ironically for 4/5 years where we were probably top side in Europe alongside Barca. Whether LVG can it remains to be seen and we indeed need couple of more additions ideally but some of the reactions are way over the top and how our squad is written off is ridiculous.
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It's Fergie and Moyes fault.
More so Moyes because he added to the problem by signing Fellaini and Mata. As well as renewing Rooneys contract. Pretty sure Fergie would have sold him.
Why is it unbalanced. It's like nobody wants to point the finger, like nobody wanted to boo Moyes for ages last season. Maybe somebody at the club should have questioned why certain players were bought, position wise and in a lot of cases quality wise as well. Unfortunately nobody at the club did and this is what we have been left with.
We need to sort out our midfield. And if the squad is unbalanced, then why aren't we selling anyone? You can just see the problem, talk about it and not do anything about it. Why aren't we doing anything about it? Even getting in Khedira and Song would go a long way to just stop the bleeding for at least a year. They could be available for around £20m.
What's with all this talk that our team is so bad?
We have two of the league's top three strikers in Rooney and RVP up top.
A world class number 10 in Juan Mata.
Herrera will be a very good number 8 in a month or two, Carrick was the season before last good enough to play for Barcelona according to Wenger.
And a defence of Luke Shaw, Rojo, Evans, Jones and Rafael looks good on paper, let them find some form.
And De Gea is good too.
Nobody honestly thinks Swansea has a better team than us, in the last game our problem was psychological and that's because new habits can fall apart when the pressure is on causing the old ones to surface, David Moyes' football returned because the pressure got to the players however Louis van Gaal will be aware of this and will do whatever he can to build high confidence.
I honestly think a confident Manchester United will be a very dangerous side.
We have two of the league's top three strikers in Rooney and RVP up top.
A world class number 10 in Juan Mata.
Herrera will be a very good number 8 in a month or two, Carrick was the season before last good enough to play for Barcelona according to Wenger.
And a defence of Luke Shaw, Rojo, Evans, Jones and Rafael looks good on paper, let them find some form.
And De Gea is good too.
Nobody honestly thinks Swansea has a better team than us, in the last game our problem was psychological and that's because new habits can fall apart when the pressure is on causing the old ones to surface, David Moyes' football returned because the pressure got to the players however Louis van Gaal will be aware of this and will do whatever he can to build high confidence.
I honestly think a confident Manchester United will be a very dangerous side.
Few wins and it's all happy days.
Great so one game and we are throwing, Blackett, Lingard and Herrera under the bus. If we hadn't got so many injuries, a lot of the other might not have played. A full side might have delivered a different result. Fletchers first pre-season for ages looks like it was too much for him, it was bound to be. That is the one part of the team I worry about, someone to partner Herrera.
The thing which irritates me most is the complete lack of research many journalists, pundits and ex players put into examining either LvG's tactical history or his coaching philosophy.
It's as if they base their opinion on him as if he were a blank sheet of paper without record. They forget that we're not dealing with an idiot here. They, and many here seem to have forgotten that in van Gaal, we have a coach who developed the most incredible young Ajax team and brought unprecedented success both domestically and continental. Not only that but in the eyes of many Barca historians and journalists, coaches and players, he is responsible for laying the philosophy and groundwork for their later historic success.
We worry about our short and long term future but he's shown time and time again that if there's one coach that's ripe for this job, it's him!
It's as if they base their opinion on him as if he were a blank sheet of paper without record. They forget that we're not dealing with an idiot here. They, and many here seem to have forgotten that in van Gaal, we have a coach who developed the most incredible young Ajax team and brought unprecedented success both domestically and continental. Not only that but in the eyes of many Barca historians and journalists, coaches and players, he is responsible for laying the philosophy and groundwork for their later historic success.
We worry about our short and long term future but he's shown time and time again that if there's one coach that's ripe for this job, it's him!
I couldn't care less if the whole team was only above average and they were all named Smith and Jones. I just long to watch one game of flowing football with some decent passing. What I miss more than anything is penetration, we haven't had it for such a long time.
The Carrick injury was a disaster. As long as we don't get back the Carrick of last season. I don't think this team lacks talent, what I do think and last season confirmed it to me, is that some lack character.What's with all this talk that our team is so bad?
We have two of the league's top three strikers in Rooney and RVP up top.
A world class number 10 in Juan Mata.
Herrera will be a very good number 8 in a month or two, Carrick was the season before last good enough to play for Barcelona according to Wenger.
And a defence of Luke Shaw, Rojo, Evans, Jones and Rafael looks good on paper, let them find some form.
And De Gea is good too.
Nobody honestly thinks Swansea has a better team than us, in the last game our problem was psychological and that's because new habits can fall apart when the pressure is on causing the old ones to surface, David Moyes' football returned because the pressure got to the players however Louis van Gaal will be aware of this and will do whatever he can to build high confidence.
I honestly think a confident Manchester United will be a very dangerous side.
Agreed, a lot of overreacting going on IMO.What's with all this talk that our team is so bad?
We have two of the league's top three strikers in Rooney and RVP up top.
A world class number 10 in Juan Mata.
Herrera will be a very good number 8 in a month or two, Carrick was the season before last good enough to play for Barcelona according to Wenger.
And a defence of Luke Shaw, Rojo, Evans, Jones and Rafael looks good on paper, let them find some form.
And De Gea is good too.
Nobody honestly thinks Swansea has a better team than us, in the last game our problem was psychological and that's because new habits can fall apart when the pressure is on causing the old ones to surface, David Moyes' football returned because the pressure got to the players however Louis van Gaal will be aware of this and will do whatever he can to build high confidence.
I honestly think a confident Manchester United will be a very dangerous side.
Scholes is like a rabid dog obsessed with attacking Ed Woodward's leg. And I'm all for it. United are guilty of a lot of spin this summer (and last) and it's time someone influential and connected with club said what everyone is thinking. We are all so uncomfortable with it because we don't like our dirty laundry aired in public. But he hasn't said anything that isn't true. He's one of our greatest ever players and has put his heart and soul into the club. If he is talking shit about what is going on, people should listen.
And if it spurs on EW and the Glazers to act, then wonderful.
None of this is to undermine the work LVG is doing or to belittle the players we already have.
And if it spurs on EW and the Glazers to act, then wonderful.
None of this is to undermine the work LVG is doing or to belittle the players we already have.
He works for Cadena Ser, who're a reliable source, is all I know.
As good as he is we didn't need mata with us already aving rooney and kagawa . We should have prioritised centre back and holding midfielder first .
Our squad is littered with players not good enough to play for united and the squad compared with chelsea and city is of low quality .
If we have the second biggest net spend over the last few years behind psg then that says to me that the club is being run badly . Someone on the football side must be held accountable and I'm not just pointing at moyes .
If we don't get Vidal in this window then we need someone else and another centre back or forget top 4.
Most of them are hacks, research doesn't come into it. People who have worked with him say it does take time, but obviously we are relegation candidates after one game.
What's with all this talk that our team is so bad?
We have two of the league's top three strikers in Rooney and RVP up top.
A world class number 10 in Juan Mata.
Herrera will be a very good number 8 in a month or two, Carrick was the season before last good enough to play for Barcelona according to Wenger.
And a defence of Luke Shaw, Rojo, Evans, Jones and Rafael looks good on paper, let them find some form.
And De Gea is good too.
Nobody honestly thinks Swansea has a better team than us, in the last game our problem was psychological and that's because new habits can fall apart when the pressure is on causing the old ones to surface, David Moyes' football returned because the pressure got to the players however Louis van Gaal will be aware of this and will do whatever he can to build high confidence.
I honestly think a confident Manchester United will be a very dangerous side.
Hopefully Van Gaal sees it the same as you.
Didn't say that at all. Was just replying to the previous post and making a silly analogy. I've already laid out what I think of the squad in a much earlier post. I am very excited about the young players we have coming through and the players we have signed. I've also been a huge supporter of Fletcher since day one. It's not to say there aren't deficiencies.
Correct, I feel as though the competition is so stiff this year we should get another cb as well as a proper cdm or it will be a rough season.
exactly.
Thats the problem with losing three experienced, quality defenders in one summer. We needed them for at least for one season so we could have focused fully on our midfield this summer instead of worrying in addition about our defense right now.
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