Doing well at another club won't mean United signing him was a mistake. If he's not the right player for the system, he's not the right player for the system. Move on and get the player who fits.
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Doing well at another club won't mean United signing him was a mistake. If he's not the right player for the system, he's not the right player for the system. Move on and get the player who fits.
It won't be.
"Sky Italia: Xherdan Shaqiri is close to joining Liverpool: his agent/brother just met the club to discuss personal terms"
Sky Italia know diddly-squat.
Lol!!
Maid at the hotel where Italy is staying takes a bite at Chiellini: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrA2ZnVIUAEhJ8M.jpg:large
Maid at the hotel where Italy is staying takes a bite at Chiellini: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrA2ZnVIUAEhJ8M.jpg:large
But does that midfield have that much pace? Is LVG managing them? No and yes, I'd suggest.
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Not transfer realted but heart warming stuff from Eto'o..
All three of the players are more mobile than Kroos and are stronger on the ball. Of course LVG is managing them, but managing a NT is very different to managing an elite level club like Man Utd where you can broaden your horizons regards player recruitment.
So if Kroos wasn't "mobile" enough for LVG's "system" according to the people on here who all now somehow experts what LVG wants and does not want, we can assume Carrick won't even get near the team then?
LVG turning down Kroos would be idiotic, but I think he probably never had the chance to anyways. The price being quoted that he was allegedly coming for seems really low.
LVG turning down Kroos would be idiotic, but I think he probably never had the chance to anyways. The price being quoted that he was allegedly coming for seems really low.
God.....Some people.
So 48 hours ago, the press were clueless about who we were going to sign and who are targets were.
Now, they say something about Kroos, and people are losing their shit and believing it.
So 48 hours ago, the press were clueless about who we were going to sign and who are targets were.
Now, they say something about Kroos, and people are losing their shit and believing it.
I think it's worth understanding what Van Gaal's ideal system is. There's been a lot of discussion on here about that but essentially it seems like in a 3 man midfield he goes for a #6 (Combative Defensive Mid) #8 (Box to box mid) #10 Advanced playmaker. Herrera is presumably his #8. We are apparently in the market for a #6 and we are stocked with #10's (Rooney, Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj). Within that framework where would Kroos fit? He's not a box to box midfielder and he's not a defensive midfielder either. He's lavishly talented I agree. I really enjoy watching him play but I can see why LVG has passed on him, if this tactical assessment is correct. At Bayern his 6 was Van Bommel, his 8 was Schweinsteiger and his 10 was Muller.
Would Carrick work as the #6? Very possibly. But's he's 33 anyway, so it makes sense we are looking for another midfielder. He certainly likes that player to be mobile and the linking to Strootman make sense.
Why would it be idiotic? Kroos doesn't have the legs to play in the kind of midfield I suspect Van Gaal will look to implement. We need box-to-box players, primarily a defensive midfielder. Ideally, we'd be in for Kroos' teammate, Javi Martinez. We need that a lot more than an, albeit fantastic, fairly static deep-lying playmaker.
Phil Jones can do that job.
No he can't. As simple as that. We need a proper defensive mid.
Maybe so. Is he enough of a footballer though for Van Gaal? Hard to judge. He's previously used the likes of Cocu, Motta and Van Bommel in that role. All very decent footballers with a tough streak. I guess it also depends on whether we sign another center back or not, because right now we are down two from last season.
Frankly I would be surprised to see him use a defender in midfield. Even in defensive midfield. Assuming he sees Jones as a midfielder of course. He may do a Schweinsteiger on him and convert him into something else entirely.
I'm talking myself in circles now. But I stand by what I previously said; I don't think he'll be enough of a technical player for Van Gaal to deploy him in that role.
Exactly when he plays in that position his just a wrecking ball but as a footballer he isn't good enough for that role. He often misplaces simple passes and losses possession because he isn't very composed on the ball.
yes he can, and his record playing there with us, and the way he improve us, is prove enough. As simple as that.
This. Bayern don't seem too bothered to see him go either. The same Bayern that never sell their best players.
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Absolutely agree with this post
I trust LVg's judgement and all but when a player like Kroos becomes available at a reasonable price, you get him for sure.
Its not like we are already full with enough talent in midfield. Even after Herrera we need one more CM who is better than Herrera. The current ones we have are not good enough.Not one of them would get into the top 15 clubs in Europe.
Its not like we are already full with enough talent in midfield. Even after Herrera we need one more CM who is better than Herrera. The current ones we have are not good enough.Not one of them would get into the top 15 clubs in Europe.
Suggest you watch those games again and see his limitations. Doing a job is not what lvg wants - he wants someone who can use the ball properly in that position. That's not Jones.
Jones is a good option during the season when they a few players injured or out of form - maybe as the 3rd Defensive midfielder in the pecking order (or even 2nd at a push) - that is completely fine; but when we have a whole tranfer window to 1) avoid playing players out of position;2)getting someone who has actually played there all there life it would bring better results.
Perhaps Van Gaal doesn't think Kroos is 25-30 million better than Carrick for this season. Herrera/Strootman could be his end-game plan.
LVG wants Strootman which mean no Kroos. Get over it people, they are too similar to play together.
Correct. No more square pegs in round holes.
Jones needs a big season to convince that he's the answer at centre back long term. Shunting him around is doing him no favours at all.
Jones needs to be given a run of games at CB. The potentian long-term gains outstrip the short-term risk. If he settles in and makes the position his own then not only do we save potentially £40m odd on a new defender he could be here for the next 12 years in that role.
This.
A central three of a DM, Herrera and Rooney (each more advanced than the last) sounds good as potentially with Mata and Januzaj/Kagawa on the field, Rooney's AM position can be easily rotated between those three at various times.
Is that another old photo.
What difference does that make? They're not trying to pretend that's him an Bobby Charlton, hiding behind the rack of jackets.
Not sure, can't see Sir Bobby so it may well be an old pic.
Well with all the reports saying his at Carrington surely someone would have gotten a photo.
More likely than Sanchez I think. Wouldn't be too dissimilar from the Coutinho transfer.
It's been such a while since Liverpool did a deal like the Sanchez one that it's quite hard to imagine that one happening.
Edit: Well if there's any truth to the Suarez rumours, then that could be Liverpool's ticket to sign Sanchez.
"breakneck speed", I bet it fecking is. From Liverpool's point of view, any time in the next few hours would be ideal, I presume.
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