I think when he is with Sehwag, Viru takes all the pressure off him and let him play his natural game which is to play a solid innings rather than to score quickly. However without Sehwag, he takes the onus of scoring runs quickly which ultimately proves his downfall.
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I think when he is with Sehwag, Viru takes all the pressure off him and let him play his natural game which is to play a solid innings rather than to score quickly. However without Sehwag, he takes the onus of scoring runs quickly which ultimately proves his downfall.
Agreed.
Still can't understand why they choose Vijay and Chawla over Uthappa and Ojha/Mishra, also Jadeja should be dropped for this match, I like him as a player but he is clearly lacking match practice.
Vijay selection is clear. It's because Srikanth is biased. And I say this as someone from Chennai. Seen this for too long. Picking Badrinath in the test squad when there are more deserving players, R Ashwin in the T20 squad awhile back when he didn't deserve it, Balaji in the test squad when we toured NZ. Dinesh Karthik so frequently in the guise of picking a reserve wicket keeper.
Sehwag will either get out in the first 2 overs or will give the bowlers a good spanking all over the park. Never seen him buckle under the pressure from bowlers.
Jadeja and Rohit Sharma are both rubbish. Chawla is going to be our next big spinner and T20 would be a good way to make him learn a few things about performing under pressure. Also, Yuvraj probably needs to be dropped to wake him up. It worked for Sehwag and Zaheer. Anyway, it was T20. Glad it's over.
You haven't seen cricket in ages, I'm guessing.
Besides, why are they having the T20 world cup every year anyway ? The whole novelty factor of a world cup is lost if you play it every damn year.
Which player am I wrong about? You guys are going on about Jadeja but as far as I can remember he played a part in winning us one close match I think and has been average or poor every other time. Look at his ODI figures. Average. His T20 figures. Even worse. He's a better bowler than a batsman and his bowling is really nothing special. He's exactly the kind of player who cant play either of the 2 roles well. Reminds me of jsut about every all rounder India's ever had.
Rohit still cant play a short ball. Batting average of 25 in ODIs. Will never do well against a quality bowling side no matter what form of cricket it is.
Piyush Chawla. Is only 21. One of the only decent up and coming leggies. Played his first T20 and hasnt played a ODI since 2008. He deserves more chances.
Rohit still cant play a short ball. Batting average of 25 in ODIs. Will never do well against a quality bowling side no matter what form of cricket it is.
Piyush Chawla. Is only 21. One of the only decent up and coming leggies. Played his first T20 and hasnt played a ODI since 2008. He deserves more chances.
its a pile of wank i tell ye.
teams like ireland, zimbabwe, west indies, afghanistan, new zealand will be forgotten until the next world cup.
with the money that is being made these teams should be involved more and money should be invested into these countries.
Nannes is having a great time here.
Isnt he supposed to be dutch ? IIRC, saw him playing for the netherlands somewhere.
Isnt he supposed to be dutch ? IIRC, saw him playing for the netherlands somewhere.
Thats that then. Goodnight Sri Lanka.
Jadeja in match-fixing shocker.
He's represented Holland a few times, but really he should have 20 tests for Australia by now as he's the country's best swing bowler when he's on song.
We keep saying Jadeja's good because of the way he's played in ODIs over the past one year. He's not a wicket taking bowler, but normally he's very consistent and fires yorkers in, generally plays as a bowler who can restrict the flow of runs.. that's his role in the team.
Rohit is the only one who can play the short ball with some sort of respectability. Gambhir, Raina, Yusuf are the ones who can't. Rohit's average in ODIs is bad, yes, but he's not being picked for the ODI squad anymore. Look at his T20 International average -- 36, that's why he's in the team.
If you really want to pick on someone, it should be Yusuf Pathan. I just went and looked his stats up.. an average of 16 for India. Too many chances given on the basis of being a flat track bully.
Chawla's been terrible, terrible for the past 2 years now. This year in the IPL he went at an economy of 8.3 or something crazy like that. Mishra is a MUCH better legspinner. I'm not disputing that Chawla's talented, but he seems to have lost it over the past 18 months. We could keep giving chances, but it's crazy not to give chances to Mishra who is clearly as talented and consistently played well.
But Jadeja should come be out for Chawla next game for sure, and I hope Chawla can do something. And another one should go out for Vinay Kumar/Umesh Yadav. Two fast bowlers not enough.
I have to say that Jadeja is a good pick when he's the 5th bowler like he normally was because he can bat a wee bit, but when you pick only 4 bowlers and one of them's Jadeja, you're asking for it. It's being very optimistic.
It's not every year. First one was in 2007, next in 2009, this one wasn't supposed to happen. There was supposed to be a Champions Trophy in West Indies in 2010 after the one in Pakistan in 2008, but the whole Sri Lankan team being fired at happened and teams stopped going to Pakistan, so they scrapped the 2008 tournament and postponed it to 2009. They didn't want a Champions Trophy in consecutive years, but the Windies already had the infrastructure and the whole gig ready, so they made it into a T20 World Cup. From now on, it'll be every 2 years. Next one's in 2012.
He's Australian. He played for Delhi in the IPL before anyone heard of him and he was brilliant. But he didn't get the call-up to the Australian team for the 2009 T20 World Cup, so he played for the Netherlands because his grandmother's dutch or something like that. Then after that, Australia realized their T20 bowling's a bit shit and wanted to bring in Nannes, so he switched sides 6 months back and now plays for them. He's pretty much all Australian. Crazy stat for you, Nannes represented Australia in the World Skiing championships at 23 and started playing cricket only when he was 24 because he wanted to do something different.
I like him a lot, I think he's brilliant.
Australia England finals...
This is true. Well put!
Errr.. Vijay was the best Indian opening batsman in the IPL apart from a certain genius named Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. To pick a person on form isn't that bad a reason i guess.
Still can't understand the other selections though, Chawla's selection was something i criticized ages ago! Ohja, Mishra, Karthik and basically every other tom who could bowl the ball was a better spinner in the recent past.
Err. Again, In the recent past, Vijay's done quite well. An average of nearly 36 against some quality pacemen ( If i remember correctly most fast bowlers were international).
However, i echo your sentiments regarding Badrinath and Karthik, useless gimps the both of them!. Ashwin would have been useful in the west indies i guess.
The one selection that continues to puzzle me is Yusuf Pathan, He's shit against quality fast bowling and is only good against spinners. So why bring him in the end overs when the faster bowlers would certainly be operating, why not one down or something in the middle overs?. And when was the last time he won us anything?
I'd like it if we get in that umesh yadav bloke, he bowls at 140+ most of the time. Would be nice to have one such bowler in the side, even if he's a bit erratic, he'd hurry the batsmen up a bit. Sadly now we have bowlers who bowl the ball and the batsmen generally have time to have a cup of tea before the ball arrives.
He has played for the Dutch Cricket team, however since the Dutch are not the full members of ICC, the players who have played for them are eligible to play for other countries(if they qualify for that country). Think Eoin Morgan also played for Ireland before switching to England
I'm sorry mate, but just because you have played well in IPL shouldn't mean you could get into the Indian Team. A great example of this is Yusuf Pathan who has been one of best players in IPL however has failed to succeed at the International Level. Vijay is a player I rate but I'm not sure if he can play well at International T20 Level
Also why is everyone criticizing Karthik, he is a perfect backup keeper. Good Wicket Keeper, Decent Batsman and an excellent attitude to the game, he gets one chance in 10 matches or so, it's unfair to expect anything more from him. I don't there is a better backup keeper than him in India.
Yusf is someone i criticize as well. But if you look at his IPL form, i'm sure you'll see that he play an innings once in 10 matches that wins the game and that too against teams which don't have tearaway quicks.
But here's a question mate , who else would you choose?, Naman Ohja? , Robin Uttapa has a disastrous season in the One day domestic cups, so who else?. For a country which has produced so many good opening batsmen in the past, we actually don't have very good ones right now apart from Sehwag (Who was a middle order batsman) and Gambhir, if we don't add vijay.
Though an option would be to send someone up the order, I don't really think they would have done any better than vijay.
Clique, Vijay had 2 good knocks against mediocre opposition. The IPL(like Dhoni said today) shouldn't be a quantification factor because each time has 2 quality bowlers and 3 other bowlers you can target. International teams are a different kettle of fish. I think Vijay is a very good batsman, but not in this format.
And as for back-up wicket keepers.. they aren't that necessary. Back-up wicket keepers in T20 should be players who can primarily bat and have wicket-keeping as a secondary. SA do it with De Villiers, Sri Lanka do it with Dilshan, Pakistan, England don't even have a back-up keeper. Uthappa should've been picked in that slot. I think Dinesh Karthik is our best 2nd choice keeper by a long shot, but my point is you don't need one in this format. Maybe if you're going into a 50 over World Cup or an overseas test series. Otherwise, the position is a redundancy.
And as for back-up wicket keepers.. they aren't that necessary. Back-up wicket keepers in T20 should be players who can primarily bat and have wicket-keeping as a secondary. SA do it with De Villiers, Sri Lanka do it with Dilshan, Pakistan, England don't even have a back-up keeper. Uthappa should've been picked in that slot. I think Dinesh Karthik is our best 2nd choice keeper by a long shot, but my point is you don't need one in this format. Maybe if you're going into a 50 over World Cup or an overseas test series. Otherwise, the position is a redundancy.
Err. Warney and Tait were plundered. Not as much as that narwal bloke though!. But yes, he had only two good innings, but macha, who else would you choose?. We don't have the riches of the past with regards to opening batsmen!
Uthappa. He has opened in the past. He looks a completely different player these days. I know I'm judging it on IPL performances, but he actually took on the main bowlers of the opposition and hit them out. And he also always came in at pressure situations and did well.
Cheers fellas.
Yeah I remember reading somewhere he's an all out athlete and has tried his hand at a lot of things.
@ zing, cheers for the info. Still think a world cup should be after a more prolonged period. Its a world cup after all. 2 year gaps should only be there for world knockout tournaments like the champions trophy. Short and sweet.
Wait, so India are out?
short pitch.
South Africa are out
So is New Zealand now.
I repeat, bloody hell.
Indian fans, if you're flying over Karachi/Islamabad there may be 15 spare tickets if you want them.
Karthik, Vinay and Chawla in
Vijay, Zaheer and Jadeja out
Good changes except for the Zaheer one.
Vijay, Zaheer and Jadeja out
Good changes except for the Zaheer one.
these twats need shooting
they scored more in the first 10 overs and were taking singles in the latter overs..specially that idiot dhoni.
needed to score 180-190.
they scored more in the first 10 overs and were taking singles in the latter overs..specially that idiot dhoni.
needed to score 180-190.
these twats need shooting
they scored more in the first 10 overs and were taking singles in the latter overs..specially that idiot dhoni.
needed to score 180-190.
Exactly. Those 20 runs are hurting India Badly.
And we have lost the match aswell...
that's just terrible.
That was just patheticWhat a shot though from Kapugedara in the end. Superb.
Pathetic display. I think it's about time we simply ban cricket in India. Waste of time and money.
Kapu made that look so easy.Let's all laugh at India
we're so shit I don't even feel anything anymore. 2 world cups in a row not winning a single game in the super 8s.
Icing on the cake was when they needed 3 off 1, I want 2 for a superover to make it interesting, but then Nehra bowled length and took the Windies down with us
Rohit should've come in at 4, did well there for 2 matches
Too many mistakes in squad composition, team selection cost us.