Windies need to win by 24 runs to qualify
Not going to happen, I'm guessing
Not going to happen, I'm guessing
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Indian public is not going to be pleased when the team returns. Second world cup in a row that a match-fixing, internally corrupt, Pakistan has got further than them.
Gayle out, match over.
we're so shit I don't even feel anything anymore. 2 world cups in a row not winning a single game in the super 8s.
Icing on the cake was when they needed 3 off 1, I want 2 for a superover to make it interesting, but then Nehra bowled length and took the Windies down with us
Rohit should've come in at 4, did well there for 2 matches
Too many mistakes in squad composition, team selection cost us.
Precisely, as always.
We dont have one bowler that can bowl those yokers or anyone that regularly goes over the 140kph mark. Until we find a bowler that can do this, we won't win any type of world cup.
It never even started
Poor windies, India let them down big time in the last 3 overs. Pathetic.
Only won two matches in the whole thing and we're in the semis.
Tait's getting some decent reverse. Aussies have some big strong fast bowlers. . . they don't look very athletic mind.
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I want England to win this. Can't see past an Australia v England final, but Australia look far superior. England need to play Anderson instead of Broad, who has been very ineffective.
couldn't resist could you throwing a sly dig there.
that idiot dhoni is to blame...how many boundaries did he hit in the last 5 overs ? 
if i remember correctly he did the same last time out against pakistan or south africa ? when we needed 50 odd runs off the last 3 overs and he was taking singles and in the end we lost the match by 4 or 5 runs
fecking cnut makes my blood boil.
if i remember correctly he did the same last time out against pakistan or south africa ? when we needed 50 odd runs off the last 3 overs and he was taking singles and in the end we lost the match by 4 or 5 runsfecking cnut makes my blood boil.
India should just stick to IPL and quit from the other versions.
England seem to prefer the bounce and pace on the wicket compared to the subcontinent teams in particular. It would be an intriguing game, but obviously you'd have to favour the Aussies.
Sri Lanka are a dangerous team as well though, by no means an easy semi, but they are extremely unpredictable.
Australia and England are a class apart.
However, Twenty 20 is a circus, so always expect some surprises.
However, Twenty 20 is a circus, so always expect some surprises.
Pathetic display. I think it's about time we simply ban cricket in India. Waste of time and money.
Number one in test cricket. Number two in ODIs.
Ignore this 20 20 nonsense.
Number one in test cricket. Number two in ODIs.
Ignore this 20 20 nonsense.
Doesn't say that much these days, expect the number 1 team to keep changing over the next couple of years. Right now we're just the least shit team around.
Agree 20/20 is mickey mouse cricket, but it is still cricket. And India have been pathetic in the last few games.
Number one should change every couple of years. Means the game is more competitive.
replace India with utd...wouldn't you want utd to dominate ?
Feel the same way. I really think England's bowling will be taken to the cleaners by Australia, especially if they persist with Broad. I hope I'm wrong though. I really don't want Australia to win it. They've won so much already.
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IPL really is going to feck Indian cricket over.
IPL really is going to feck Indian cricket over.
I really don't see how the IPL can have a negative effect on the Indian national team. Every country's top players are in the IPL.
It has nothing to do with IPL.
First problem was the squad selection. Absolute shit. Pathan has not made more 33 while playing for India, I do not know why he keeps getting selected. To add to that, no ones had the balls to drop Yuvraj. No back up seamers team could rely upon after Zaheer and Nehra. Then going in every match with such a spinner heavy attack.
I said some time back on here that with all the talk of best batting liner up ever we do not have one proper batsmen excluding the old guard. Gambhir is the only contender but even he has yet to perform in foreign pitches.
First problem was the squad selection. Absolute shit. Pathan has not made more 33 while playing for India, I do not know why he keeps getting selected. To add to that, no ones had the balls to drop Yuvraj. No back up seamers team could rely upon after Zaheer and Nehra. Then going in every match with such a spinner heavy attack.
I said some time back on here that with all the talk of best batting liner up ever we do not have one proper batsmen excluding the old guard. Gambhir is the only contender but even he has yet to perform in foreign pitches.
The article writer makes a very good point. We play so many matches(including the IPL) on flat pitches and go into the tournaments overseas thinking we're the dog's bollocks and end up getting shown up every time. They have warm-up matches for the IPL but not for the T20 world cup because there's very little time between the two which the players use to recuperate.
This time they couldn't exactly blame fatigue, because most of our players didn't play much. But last year, for example, all our players play 14 matches and turn up at the world cup. The foreign stars do play here, yes, but they don't play all the matches because of the 4 player cap on each team, they get rotated. It works for them well because they get into that T20 tempo and it acts like a warm-up.
So is it a definite that KP will be back for the semi V Sri lanka ?
I fancy this one. I know SL have got some pretty explosive batsman, but England bat right the way down to 10. If Lumb can bat for 10 overs it should be game over.
I fancy this one. I know SL have got some pretty explosive batsman, but England bat right the way down to 10. If Lumb can bat for 10 overs it should be game over.
Spot on. Yuvraj needs a kick on his arse, he looks unmotivated and uninterested most of the time.
Agreed about our Batting also, when Laxman, Sachin and Rahul retires, our test team is gonna get fecked abroad.
Sorry but whoever is blaming IPL for India's bad performance is wrong, players like Nannes, Gayle, Jayawardene, Sangakarra played nearly all of the matches for their respective franchises and yet they have been the best players from their countries in this WC
Yep. KP will be back for atleast a semi (no pun intended, you pervert).
I fancy it too. SL's bowling is nothing to write home about cept Malinga and their batting has been hit and miss.
IPL is being blamed not in terms of fatigue Karan. Thing is Indian batsmen were playing the IPL on flat pitches throughout and got found out here in testing conditions. Add to that that a lot of those batsmen arent technically sound anyway.
Besides that I said it before as well, the over reliance on part timers cost them.
Jay but the likes of Gayle, Jayawardene and Sangakarra played on those same pitches and yet they have played very well in this World Cup. Think the likes of Raina and Rohit are technically good enough but they just lack the experience(Sharma played very well in his debut series against Australia in Australia). We basically rely on part-timers because our pace bowling is not that great and because our selectors are idiots for selecting Piyush fecking Chawla ahead of better spinners like Ojha and Mishra.
Typical hysterical reaction by Indian News Channels btw, one reporter just said that "So what if India is no.1 in test and no.2 in ODI's, we are not among the top 5 teams in T20
"Btw Yusuf Pathan should be nowhere near the national team, basically gets called a matchwinner by most of the commentators yet he still hasn't shown it in International Cricket.
Jay but the likes of Gayle, Jayawardene and Sangakarra played on those same pitches and yet they have played very well in this World Cup. Think the likes of Raina and Rohit are technically good enough but they just lack the experience(Sharma played very well in his debut series against Australia in Australia). We basically rely on part-timers because our pace bowling is not that great and because our selectors are idiots for selecting Piyush fecking Chawla ahead of better spinners like Ojha and Mishra.
Typical hysterical reaction by Indian News Channels btw, one reporter just said that "So what if India is no.1 in test and no.2 in ODI's, we are not among the top 5 teams in T20
Btw Yusuf Pathan should be nowhere near the national team, basically gets called a matchwinner by most of the commentators yet he still hasn't shown it in International Cricket.
yeah. Agree with that.All Dhoni said was that IPL can be draining just like any other tournament if the players don't look after themselves.
This has been picked up by news channels as "Dhoni sparks controversy by blaming IPL"
Fkin media. Rajdeep Sardesai and CNN IBN.. pfft..
Indian batsmen are weak against short pitched stuff, this is something that has been constant for quite some time. Players should have already practiced enough to at least devise some kind of strategy against it, they did not even after the wake up call from last year's WC.
IPL with its flat patches is not an ideal preparation indeed. But that is not IPL's fault either but something that is true with Indian pitches at large.
Contrary to what many may think, our current status in test cricket is not due to the Young guns like Dhoni but the hard work put under the likes of Ganguly, Dravid, Sachin, Kumble etcc alongside coaches like John Wright to change the way we approach cricket.
Conscious effort was made to shift from the under prepared, strategy less team that used to operate in 90s, relying on individual bravados to hand us wins instead of working together to earn it. But now I fear without the old guard there, it could all go to toilet again. Why?
I was a big Yuvraj fan and wanted him as captain after WC 2007 instead of Dhoni but he right now seems like a cancer to any team he plays in. Totally uninterested and lacking in any kind of intensity. He needs to dropped and asked to buck up.
Rest of the upcoming players seem no better. Some one like Raina does not excite me at all. Slogging every ball over midwicket is not a testament to great talent. S. Waugh was great at the same shot but he could go toe to toe with Ambrose as well. Other than Gambhir ( and there are plenty of doubts about him as well), I would not back a single young Indian cricket to handle someone like Mcgrath, Walsh, Warne in their prime. It is alright though because they can hit a dozen sixes in T20 flat pitches with short boundaries.
The change I talked about kept Indian cricketers in check with all the money and glamour than come with being a successful cricketer in India. IPL tamasha whose selling point is exaggeration and vulgarity is fast eroding any discipline which was instilled in our team. With all the talk of cricket being a religion here, one single event of Sachin retiring and us plumeeting along with it, could send the cricket following in India in a real slump. People of my generation have gone through enough pain and toll to go through another era of incompetence while the younger generation are very much our very own version of glory hunters and JCL. I do not expect them to wake up at 3 in the night and watch us get bowled out for 100 in NZ.
Squad selection has been the downfall of some of the powerhouses in this world cup. If you look at England and Australia's team selection, you will find that the players are specialists Twenty20 players unlike the likes of India and South Africa who chose 50 over players to do the job.
India fecked up badly with selection, I mean, where are players like Tiwary who were brilliant during the IPL? Yuvraj wasn't even close to getting form yet he gets selected. South Africa, don't get me started...Smith? Just because you're the national captain doesn't mean you need to be part of every team. He's not played competitive cricket for how long now? I would've dropped him and brought in Vandiar (local lad) who's a specialist T20 opening batsman that goes after the bowling, something SA lacked. Roelof van der Merwe...how many more shite performances before we look at other spinning options? Selection, selection, selection!
India fecked up badly with selection, I mean, where are players like Tiwary who were brilliant during the IPL? Yuvraj wasn't even close to getting form yet he gets selected. South Africa, don't get me started...Smith? Just because you're the national captain doesn't mean you need to be part of every team. He's not played competitive cricket for how long now? I would've dropped him and brought in Vandiar (local lad) who's a specialist T20 opening batsman that goes after the bowling, something SA lacked. Roelof van der Merwe...how many more shite performances before we look at other spinning options? Selection, selection, selection!
at you idiots getting your panties in a twist about baseball.This was bound to happen. I hate to say it but Harbhajan is the best bowler we have at the moment. And he should go stuff his head in a hairy vagina and suffocate.
Good though, hopefully they'll get Yuvraj to play some first class cricket in the heat and give him a right kick up the arse.
Oh wait a minute, of course they won't.
Fat fecking chance.I'm in Bombay atm, the cricketing capital of the nation. And most of the young tits here couldn't care less about the other formats of the game.
I think this is just symptomatic of what is in store for Indian cricket, Donado. Our test team is a whole different crop right now due to presence of likes of Sachin, Dravid. Post 2011(when I think Sachin will quit, Dravid possibly as well) this could very well be the norm.
I'm not watching the sport once they go.
You can copy me if you want.
You can copy me if you want.
Jay but the likes of Gayle, Jayawardene and Sangakarra played on those same pitches and yet they have played very well in this World Cup. Think the likes of Raina and Rohit are technically good enough but they just lack the experience(Sharma played very well in his debut series against Australia in Australia). We basically rely on part-timers because our pace bowling is not that great and because our selectors are idiots for selecting Piyush fecking Chawla ahead of better spinners like Ojha and Mishra.
Typical hysterical reaction by Indian News Channels btw, one reporter just said that "So what if India is no.1 in test and no.2 in ODI's, we are not among the top 5 teams in T20
Btw Yusuf Pathan should be nowhere near the national team, basically gets called a matchwinner by most of the commentators yet he still hasn't shown it in International Cricket.
Thats the saddest part!. We once had a team with Nehra, Zaheer, Irfan, Sreesanth and R.P. Singh who were quite good as a unit, Irfan with some pace would still be very very handy like he was in Pakistan/Australia when he first shot into fame.
That australia tour of 2003, we had Balaji bowling banana balls, Irfan yorking gilchrist!. Where did it all go?, Why the hell do all our pacers start bright and fade out real fast? Something is wrong somewhere
Jay but the likes of Gayle, Jayawardene and Sangakarra played on those same pitches and yet they have played very well in this World Cup. Think the likes of Raina and Rohit are technically good enough but they just lack the experience(Sharma played very well in his debut series against Australia in Australia). We basically rely on part-timers because our pace bowling is not that great and because our selectors are idiots for selecting Piyush fecking Chawla ahead of better spinners like Ojha and Mishra.
Typical hysterical reaction by Indian News Channels btw, one reporter just said that "So what if India is no.1 in test and no.2 in ODI's, we are not among the top 5 teams in T20
Btw Yusuf Pathan should be nowhere near the national team, basically gets called a matchwinner by most of the commentators yet he still hasn't shown it in International Cricket.
Thats right KM. But the fact is Jayawardena and Sangakkara are brilliant technically while Gayle is the most brutal hitter in the game right now. His 112 m six, was it, off the back foot of a spinner was the most audacious shot of the tournament and speaks volumes of his hitting ability.
While when I look at the Indian batting line up, I dont see a lot of players who are technically sound enough. For me personally, there's only R Sharma, who is a class act and the only one along with Gambhir in the new crop capable of playing all 3 formats perfectly. Though Gambhir has been missing for a while now and his body language is appalling. Dont know if its fatigue or injury or something else. But something's not right there.
As for the rest, honestly as good as a striker of a ball Raina is, he still lacks that finesse that Sharma or the old guard has. Hence why I think Indian batting is likely to be found out in testing conditions.
I agree. Though as baffling as it is your bowling, players motivation has to be questioned as well.
For e.g Pathan (the other one, the swing bowler) hit the scene in supreme fashion, had decent pace, could swing it either way lost his way completely.
Ishanth Sharma, who had serious pace, good debut is again now fading into the background.
Sreesnath, well we all know what happened there, good talent, very questionable attitude. Again, fading into obscurity.
Surely cant be coincidence that all of these guys hit the scene with extreme promise and start fading away just as quickly. I dont know if its burnout or lack of motivation, but it needs to be sorted out pronto.
England getting slightly over-confident here, with some of the quotes from Swann and Bresnan. Key is to study Mendis.