Yes, but if the goal is to become a title contender, strengthening teams that are already better than you is not a good idea. He is a sound businessman.
Tweets Only 2010/14 Archive
- Thread starter KM
- Start date
- Status
Yes, but if the goal is to become a title contender, strengthening teams that are already better than you is not a good idea. He is a sound businessman.
That's not true. They were 7 points behind City in February and they then suffered a loss of confidence with the Capello/Redknapp fiasco at a vital point in their season. They need 2/3 quality signings and they'll be right up there next season dependent on their manager choice.
To say they aren't title rivals is bullshit frankly. They've been making steps forward in the last few years while Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool have been going backwards.
They only finished 4 points ahead of us FFS.
They were 7 points back, but did anyone ever consider them a threat to United or City for the title? No, they didn't.
Levy must be aiming to get Spurs into the Champions League regularly, so clearly he doesn't fancy strengthening the teams he wants Spurs to challenge (though the counter-argument to that is of course that he'll receive a massive amount of dosh to reinvest - but if he can get that from aboard then all the better).
Realistically he'll know that Spurs can't compete with Roman or the Shiekh's money, but maybe he's been reading all the "United are finished" articles that have been popping-up every now and then for about a decade and thinks our position in the top four is vulnerable (or Arsenal's, but Spurs never seem to manage to do anything against them anyway save for the odd game).
But if Madrid really are out of the running, then he'd need someone like PSG to turn Modric's head if he wants to cash in whilst not selling him to Chelsea or ourselves. Surely Spurs won't keep an unhappy player for another season, regardless of his contract?
At least one fat idiot on Sunday Supplement did - but nobody with any sense I don't think.
Realistically he'll know that Spurs can't compete with Roman or the Shiekh's money, but maybe he's been reading all the "United are finished" articles that have been popping-up every now and then for about a decade and thinks our position in the top four is vulnerable (or Arsenal's, but Spurs never seem to manage to do anything against them anyway save for the odd game).
But if Madrid really are out of the running, then he'd need someone like PSG to turn Modric's head if he wants to cash in whilst not selling him to Chelsea or ourselves. Surely Spurs won't keep an unhappy player for another season, regardless of his contract?
At least one fat idiot on Sunday Supplement did - but nobody with any sense I don't think.
If you're prepared to sell, then slap a (realistic) price and do it early. He only has to look to last year to see what a prolonged saga can do to one's start to the season.
I'm sorry, I have to correct you here. Since when did a season end in February? If you can't last the 38 games, you don't deserve to win it, simple as that.
Two or three quality signings would cost ~£70m, which Spurs absolutely cannot afford to invest without UCL football. They made this gamble a few seasons ago, and it worked, for one season, then they crashed back down to fifth again.
Chelsea aren't going backwards any more, they'll be up there with us and City, mark my words, there's every chance they could win it.
Spurs will once again fall outside UCL football, and will be much closer to Liverpool than the title.
Spurs haven't got a hope of winning the title, so Levy should have no qualms about selling us Modric.
They are however one of a few teams competing for the 4th Champions League spot, so it would make sense to avoid strengthening any of those teams. Hence, I'd say us and City are in the clear to sign any Spurs player, whereas Arsenal or Liverpool aren't as they are a tier below, alongside Spurs.
The interesting one is Chelsea who IMO are back up alongside us and City. But Levy might view it differently, which is fair enough given their league form last year. If he considers Chelsea in the same bracket as Arsenal and Spurs, then he will avoid selling them Modric.
Which just leaves us as Modric's likely destination. feck yeah.
They are however one of a few teams competing for the 4th Champions League spot, so it would make sense to avoid strengthening any of those teams. Hence, I'd say us and City are in the clear to sign any Spurs player, whereas Arsenal or Liverpool aren't as they are a tier below, alongside Spurs.
The interesting one is Chelsea who IMO are back up alongside us and City. But Levy might view it differently, which is fair enough given their league form last year. If he considers Chelsea in the same bracket as Arsenal and Spurs, then he will avoid selling them Modric.
Which just leaves us as Modric's likely destination. feck yeah.
This is what I was going to say haha. But all that goes out the window if Real offer more than us (obviously), and if Chelsea offer significantly more than everyone else, which isn't unlikely.
Oh, and Modric gets a say in where he wants to go as well once Levy's happy with the price.
Yeah obviously Modric gets a say but if Levy won't accept a bid from Chelsea because he sees them as rivals, then Modric won't be going there.
Not sure how much truth is in the Madrid rumours, I really don't think they need him. It would just completely right off Sahin's career at Madrid as well before it even got a chance to get going.
Not sure how much truth is in the Madrid rumours, I really don't think they need him. It would just completely right off Sahin's career at Madrid as well before it even got a chance to get going.
I'm sorry but anyone who expects us to sign Modric is deluding themselves. The only way we could get him is if Madrid weren't in for him. It's plausible that we could beat Chelsea to his signature, but Madrid is a bigger draw than United right now.
Also, after the Berbatov deal I can't see Spurs being overly willing to sell a top player to us, especially without having a viable replacement lined up, which I don't think they could.
And on top of this, we need to have the money/interest to actually go for him, none of which has been given any foundation.
In other words, don't hold your breath.
Also, after the Berbatov deal I can't see Spurs being overly willing to sell a top player to us, especially without having a viable replacement lined up, which I don't think they could.
And on top of this, we need to have the money/interest to actually go for him, none of which has been given any foundation.
In other words, don't hold your breath.
Modric or Moutinho would cap this summer off nicely.
Don't be silly Liam we have every chance of getting Modric. Madrid might be a bigger draw, but they don't need him and he wouldn't even be a guaranteed starter, especially in the big games where Mourinho likes to tighten things up. He won't just play Alonso and Modric...
Whether we have the money is a seperate issue, but on the basis that we are constantly being linked with new players and some of the comments Gill has reputedly made then it seems the funds are there.
Fergie isn't an idiot and any fan of United can see we need to improve centre mid. So why are you doubtful we'll do just that? I guarantee Ferguson and Gill will have looked at plenty of central midfielders this transfer window, one of which will be Modric.
Whether we have the money is a seperate issue, but on the basis that we are constantly being linked with new players and some of the comments Gill has reputedly made then it seems the funds are there.
Fergie isn't an idiot and any fan of United can see we need to improve centre mid. So why are you doubtful we'll do just that? I guarantee Ferguson and Gill will have looked at plenty of central midfielders this transfer window, one of which will be Modric.
1) I can't say what he's thinking, nor can you nor anyone else, but on the balance of probability, I imagine he'd rather play for more money, with a better chance of trophies in a better climate if it meant playing ten less games a season. He wouldn't play in the cup games until the new year, possibly a couple of UCL away games, and assuming we don't get another midfield decimation, he wouldn't play every game with us. Scholes, Carrick, Anderson, Cleverley, Kagawa and even Giggs are all central players and will all get games. The only players never dropped/rested are Vidic, Evra and Rooney. Obviously they get rested for the cup games, but in terms of the PL, whereas Nani, Rio, Carrick, hell even the keeper can get rested, they're the only three that don't, nothing would suggest Modric wouldn't be another one. So chances are he'd probably play a similar amount of games for both clubs, except there'd be no chance of him being rested for big games, where he possibly could at Madrid.
2) Non issue. Papers link us with anyone. He was actually coming three weeks ago, remember this? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article4360715.ece
Gill will always say there's money available. Appeases fans, keeps us off the Glazers' backs. God forbid he said "Sorry guys, Glazers have the money, no more transfers for us."
3) I'm not doubtful we're looking for midfielder, just doubtful we'll get one. There aren't too many available, and to get anyone worthwhile will cost +£25m and ~£100,000k wages.
I think that if Madrid and Chelsea are interested we may end up priced out of the Modric market.
I'd actually rather have Moutinio. Let them fight for Modric whilst we snap up this younger gem.
We've obviously all been aware of Moutinio for a while, well most muppets and FM players have
, but it strikes me that he's the type of signing Fergie usually makes. We all pull our hair our for ages wanting this young talented player, then he moves elsewhere becomes top class, and Fergie moves in because he's now proven himself. We pay over the odds though in these situations which would be strange if it were to happen now, given all the "value" mantraI'd actually rather have Moutinio. Let them fight for Modric whilst we snap up this younger gem.
We've obviously all been aware of Moutinio for a while, well most muppets and FM players have
Modric or Moutinho would improve our midfield significantly. From both of them though, I'd rather have Moutinho.
It's dangerous to judge a player based on a tournament.
Yes, we've fallen into that before, although I maintain that both Kleberson and Poborsky were very good players and especially in Poborsky's case he went on to have a very successful career elsewhere. They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I bet if we were to have a poll though between signing no midfielder yet again or Moutinio based on this tournament then it would be overwhelmingly in Moutinios favour.
It doesn't, but 2/3's of the season in and they were right with us and City playing arguably the better football. Yes they had an Arsenal self destruction in the final third of the season, some may blame the Harry/Capello/England debacle while others may point to a very hard run of fixtures. But the point is that they were up there and with some better luck they could have been even closer.
Its the closest they've ever got to the Premiership title, suggesting Chelsea aren't going backwards is frankly a guess. Chelsea like Spurs have had an awful lot of changes recently in both management staff and the squad. There's no telling how well either club will play.
Spurs did finish in the top 4 this season and were simply unfortunate that Chelsea ground out the CL win. Selling Modric and I hope for their sake they sell him to a foreign club (although i'd love him to come to us) will strengthen Spurs in the long run. Two or 3 quality signings won't cost £70m, Levys a canny bastard and will get in quality players for a fraction of the price we normally play. Expect them to snap up some great players for £30m tops.
The tough run of fixtures argument doesn't hold any water though. Yes, there's a slight advantage to playing them over a long period of time, so you can rest players for those games, but at the end of the season you play everyone twice.
Yes, it is speculative to suggest that Chelsea will be right up there at the end of the season, but it's not just based on conjecture, it's based on them having a manager who won two trophies in about 20 games, and signing one of the hottest young properties in Europe, possibly even signing Hulk and Maicon, having just come off the back of a Champions League win.
Quality players cost upwards of £20m. There is the odd exception where a player comes that you didn't really know about who makes a mockery of his transfer fee, such as Ba, Cabaye or Cisse this season. But aside from players like them, such as players proven at the top level, you're paying a lot of money.
They won two trophies, yes, but their manager's record in the league was worse than that of AVB ... so hardly much proof here that they will be "right up there".
Hazard hasn't yet played in the Prem - so the jury is still out. Maicon is not the player he once was and if Hulk proves to be good as Drogba they'll be lucky.
And there are plenty of quality players who haven't cost "upwards of 20m" - the list is as long as your arm.
They sacrificed the league in the gamble of winning the UCL, and it worked, objective completed as far as I'm concerned.
That much is true, but based on everything said about him by journos, coaches, players etc. there'll be absolutely no problem with him fitting in. And regardless of what you say about Maicon and Hulk, they'd both add real quality to their side.
If you can name a list of 10 players who could drastically alter Spurs' team who'd cost less than £20m, be my guest. We were talking about them being two or three quality signings away from the title, so if you can name a few of these players who could win Spurs the league and cost less than £20m, I'd be happy to read it.
Lavezzi photographed arriving in Paris ahead of finalisation of his move to PSG.
Rumours that we have signed Pranjic and it's between us and Stoke for Naismith. Apparently Stoke have offered the better contract but Jelavic might be able to persuade him.
Sauce?
Where are you getting the cash from mate?
Well Naismith wouldn't cost anything. Not sure about Pranjic.
Both of them will be free transfers.
You scared the shit out of me then til I realised you were talking about Everton and not United. Pranjic will be decent for you.
I couldn't agree more.
Previous World cups and Euro's have thrown up so many such players.
Pranjic was ESPN and I saw the Naismith tweet on Grandoldteam but it was being tossed around a lot of people.
Both are free transfers but I'm not sure if Because of the Rangers situation they'd be due compensation or whatever.
Naismith to Everton has been common knowledge for a while
Tbh common knowledge doesn't mean a lot with the introduction of Twitter now, i've seen players being apparently dead on to sign for a club and nothing materialises.
Mouse must be rubbing his hands at all the potential frees he could pick up
My mate is a journalist in Glasgow, deal for Naismith been agreed for a while but question marks over fitness after his knee injuries.
stewartgardner
We will have some #mufc contract news for you on #mutv at 2pm
howardnurse
Bit of #MUFC news shortly
We will have some #mufc contract news for you on #mutv at 2pm
howardnurse
Bit of #MUFC news shortly
Please let this be Nani
Please be Nani...
Welbeck with a new contract possibly? When did he last sign?
- Status