Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation

Raoul said:
The woman is basically the quintissential Trump supporter. Old, low information, paranoid, and easily led. Her ilk need to be exposed so the general public can see what sort of non sensical creatures Trump has cultivated.
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The one thing Hillary got right during the campaign was calling them "deplorables".
 
Cal? said:
When there are millions of people like that idiot in the video, I'm not sure the comment actually made that much difference.
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If it drove even 50,000 people to actually get off their arses and vote for him when they otherwise wouldn't then it made a huge difference.
 
Rado_N said:
If it drove even 50,000 people to actually get off their arses and vote for him when they otherwise wouldn't then it made a huge difference.
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I think her biggest mistake was taking the so called blue wall for granted and not spending/campaigning enough to shore up those states, whilst spending too much trying to steal states in an effort to run up a big win.
 
Cal? said:
I think her biggest mistake was taking the so called blue wall for granted and not spending/campaigning enough to shore up those states, whilst spending too much trying to steal states in an effort to run up a big win.
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She made plenty of mistakes, and giving his base extra motivation to actually get out and vote by insulting them was definitely one of them.
 
Rado_N said:
She made plenty of mistakes, and giving his base extra motivation to actually get out and vote by insulting them was definitely one of them.
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Agreed, but the election was still winnable if she spent more time and money on those 3 states.
 
Pexbo said:
Presume the wording is referring to Ukraine when led by the pro-Russian Manafort was in bed with.
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The anti-Russian faction took over Ukraine from late 2014. Trump started in mid 2015, and Manafort joined him even later. This charge is then probably independent of the Trump campaign.
 
berbatrick said:
The anti-Russian faction took over Ukraine from late 2014. Trump started in mid 2015, and Manafort joined him even later. This charge is then probably independent of the Trump campaign.
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I think all the charges have against Manafort have been independent of the Trump campaign?

Manafort worked for Yanukovych from around 2006 through to when he was elected around 2010 and he was basically his PR man so this would align with that pretty well.
 
Wouldn't surprise me if a story comes out that the FBI applied for a fisa warrant on Rohrabacher.
 
My hope is that the file was called "LIGHTTREASON.docx"
 
Raoul said:
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I reckon that 3rd point could be really key at some point. There's already a very curious financial link between the inaugural committee and Trump's family directly. The fact that the deputy chairman is this dude who was deeply involved in money laundering and fraud during exactly the same time when $26m - nearly 1/4 of the overall funds raised, and more money than was paid to any one company for Obama's much larger inauguration - went to this strange company...you have to think there's something there. The very fact this money went to that organisation requires some serious investigation itself. Now you've got a key player in that committee admitting to all this financial wrongdoing at exactly the same time...it absolutely has to be part of the wider investigation.

President Trump’s inaugural committee paid nearly $26 million to an event planning firm started by an adviser to the first lady, Melania Trump, while donating $5 million — less than expected — to charity, according to tax filings released on Thursday.

The nonprofit group that oversaw Mr. Trump’s inauguration and surrounding events in January 2017, the 58th Presidential Inaugural Committee, had been under pressure from liberal government watchdog groups to reveal how it spent the record $107 million it had raised largely from wealthy donors and corporations.

Its chairman, Thomas J. Barrack Jr., a longtime friend of Mr. Trump’s, had pledged that the committee would be thrifty with its spending, and would donate leftover funds to charity. In a statement released by the committee, he praised it for carrying out the inauguration and more than 20 related events with “elegance and seamless excellence without incident or interruption, befitting the legacy and tradition that has preceded us.”

But the mandatory tax return it filed with the Internal Revenue Service revealed heavy spending on administrative and logistical expenses associated with planning and executing several days’ worth of events for donors and supporters around Mr. Trump’s inaugural ceremonies.

By contrast, the return showed that the group’s charitable donations included only a previously publicized $3 million for hurricane relief, as well as a total of $1.75 million to groups involved in decorating and maintaining the White House and the vice president’s residence, and $250,000 for the Smithsonian Institution.

The company that received the biggest payment — $26 million — was WIS Media Partners of Marina del Rey, Calif. Records show that the firm was created in December 2016, about six weeks before the inauguration, and its founder, according to a person familiar with the firm, was Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a longtime friend of Mrs. Trump’s. Otherwise there is very little information available about the company.
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Brwned said:
I reckon that 3rd point could be really key at some point. There's already a very curious financial link between the inaugural committee and Trump's family directly. The fact that the deputy chairman is this dude who was deeply involved in money laundering and fraud during exactly the same time when $26m - nearly 1/4 of the overall funds raised, and more money than was paid to any one company for Obama's much larger inauguration - went to this strange company...you have to think there's something there. The very fact this money went to that organisation requires some serious investigation itself. Now you've got a key player in that committee admitting to all this financial wrongdoing at exactly the same time...it absolutely has to be part of the wider investigation.
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No doubt about it. Gates apparently lied to Mueller as recently as two weeks ago when they were negotiating cutting a deal with him, which Muelller then apparently added to the list of charges. So this time, it looks like Gates finally saw the light of day and proceeded to flip.
 
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