Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation
- Thread starter Raoul
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"Double dog dare you."
Please do go on...
If anything this confirms that it was Papadopoulos' input that got the ball rolling, not the dossier.
They may have been sloppy in explaining the source of funding for the dossier but that's about it. The memo says they should have explained the DNC's role. What about the people who first hired Fusion, who were Republicans? It would be ridiculous to have to make sure no source in the future can have ever shown any bias against a particular investigation target. They can play the victim all they want but I think in the end they e only strengthened the case that Page gave valid reason to be monitored and it was done lawfully.
Dafaq?
Holy feck is that real? Sheesh. What a time to (still) be alive (for now)
Memo seems to much about nothing to me. The way the GOP have manipulated the system in a failed attempt to change the needle on the Muller investigation is the big story. Damaging themselves far more than anyone else at this stage, morons.
Getting the ball rolling is different from obtaining a FISA warrant. It takes much less to start an investigation than to obtain a FISA warrant, there is a distinct difference between the two. Not every investigation leads to a FISA warrant.
When you go to the Justice department and depend on something as your crucial (even if not sole) evidence to obtain a FISA warrant, to the degree that "no dossier = no FISA warrant", and it turns out that you hid crucial information regarding your crucial evidence to obtain that warrant, then there is a problem here, regardless of what made you suspicious in the first place to start the investigation. And it seems clear now that there is a lot of crucial things they hid about the dossier when it was presented to obtain the FISA warrant (repeatedly).
All of this to protect Carter Page 
What we have from this is a very specific and clearly partisan interpretation of the underlying facts that we don't know in full.
If you read that memo, I genuinely don't see how you can draw those conclusions. You are saying that not revealing one particular set of details about the source of the information implies the information cannot be trusted or that there can be no independent verification of that information. Could be wrong, but I have to think the FBI did not simply hit Print on the dossier and present it to the FISA court because it fit neatly with their pre-existing Deep State desire to stop Trump from getting elected.
But he missed protocol by skipping double dog dare and went straight to the triple dog dare here
FWIW, keep in mind that FISA court historically rejects 0.03% of warrants. You might take that as meaning that the DOJ a very careful about what they request warrants for... or that the FISA court barely cares what's in the request.
I'm expecting a tweet from don along the lines of
Partisan dems putting protecting their incompetent stooges before Murica and our independent justice system...so it's time to drain the swamp and #maga
Perhaps a follow up tweet
Perhaps the fbi should investigate who funded the fake news dossier and #lockherup
I am continually amazed at all the green smilies.
Absolutely nothing about this is funny. It is not a 'nothing burger' either. You all may think its a lod of shite, because it clearly is, but about 37% pf america, 120 million people or so, think this makes both democrats and the FBI enemies of the state.
When its time for donny to go down, they will be convinced it is a coup, they will fight, and they will be as convinced they are fighting for the future of their nation just as much as you beleive mueller is.
This will cause massive violence in the end. Nunes should be hanging for this.
Absolutely nothing about this is funny. It is not a 'nothing burger' either. You all may think its a lod of shite, because it clearly is, but about 37% pf america, 120 million people or so, think this makes both democrats and the FBI enemies of the state.
When its time for donny to go down, they will be convinced it is a coup, they will fight, and they will be as convinced they are fighting for the future of their nation just as much as you beleive mueller is.
This will cause massive violence in the end. Nunes should be hanging for this.
They are all over 65 years old and overweight.
They are not. And you may have forgotten already, but they already killed in Charlottesville.
And so it begins.....
I bet they have fek tons o guns n ammo per capita tho
So far that's been the biggest gathering. Hopefully the most expensive army in the Western World can take on a 100 alt-right ninjas.
When the shit starts to hit the fan, it’ll be interesting to see if Trump attempts to encourage sections of the Army to stand beside him. That’s the next step for a despot.
If the guy had kept his mouth shut we wouldn’t have been in this situation to begin with.
I think it's more likely their commander in chief is going to be telling them to side with the alt right ninjas and declare open season on libtards
Well in truth he'd have to break the Constitution or something because I'm not sure the US Army is allowed to fight within the USA so I suppose it will be the National Guard but yeah, whoever controls the media and the airports will be Top Doggy.
Indeed...
You’re probably correct there, but after hearing his explanation I can understand his reasons for doing it even if I might disagree or perhaps wished he handled it differently. Rock and a hard place.
The alt right are a tiny part of america and they are not Trumps main base - which is older voters. Could a trump loving white supremacist going on a shooting spree because of a impeachment.........well yes but that could happened any day of the week in the US, do to the obscene gun laws.
Yeah I image your right but it reminds me of this recent BBC documentary(It's only 12 min clip)
Ninjas tend to wear dark clothing so they're probably not too keen on that terminology...
They were all college boys so it's whatever colour the frat says is in.
feck that. He is a civil servant, he should stfu and do his job. If he has any concerns he should do it through the proper channels. Not by having his own press conferences weeks before the election.
At work cant read half these tweets. Anyone care to give me a short summary of this memo is about?
Repubs - you got FISA warrant illegally.
Everyone else - ugh yeah nope, even your last paragraph confirms that they didn't
That fact that MSNBC just brought up and it is something that I have heard of before. The original warrant might have been given based on evidence including the Steele document but it would not have been renewed repeatedly unless it bore fruit.
He’s broken the constitution at least once a week since for the last year so I don’t think that will be much of an issue. I think there are soldiers who would back him too, it’s just whether a hive mind occurs and a group of them take things into their own hands, it’s very unlikely though and if it was to happen it’s much more likely to be a group of vets imo.
I think it's unlikely because Trump will surely be found incompetent long before as well as reports of 17 year old virgins found in the cellar at Mar-a-Lago and Trumps gimp suit hanging on a hook.
Crikey, 17 of them? That’s very specific!
I'm genuinely shocked he hasn't found his way onto one of Putin's housecleaning lists yetThe guy is a certified idiot