Oscie
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How is that not blatant attempting to obstruct justice?
It is. Just give it time to add up with all the other instances.How is that not blatant attempting to obstruct justice?
Yeah, but they’ve gotta have the Senate to convict.
The impeachment system wasn’t created with political parties in mind.
To actually remove him you mean. Any criminal proceedings would only begin after he leaves office. Like Nixon, I'd imagine Trump would agree to resign in exchange for no further prosecution.
And blame the libs of course.
Yes, I say “convict” because that is the language used in Article 1 of the Constitution...
Yeah we can come back and address that once he's behind bars. How about that?Obviously trump's campaign colluded but he kind of has a point there
Yeah we can come back and address that once he's behind bars. How about that?
That's what I'm saying. Hillary can go too, for all I care. But we need to take care of the rabid monkey on the loose first.Yeah we can come back and address that once he's behind bars. How about that?
Obviously trump's campaign colluded but he kind of has a point there
Not really, Trump has allegedly conspired directly with an American adversary who successfully launched an illegal attack on a government official in order to leak private and classified government data to harm a political opponent.
Clinton on the other hand hired an American firm to investigate her opponent in order to gain an advantage. The firm that researched and produced the dossier did so though completely legal means and were not an enemy of the United States attempting to influence American policy.
There’s a huge difference.
The fact he is getting more and more unhinged shows how effective Mueller has been and how close he is getting to the traitor.
Nah, the issue is the obstruction. The quid pro quo will be almost impossible to prove, even with regards to his blatantly deviant business dealings in prior years.The issue is still the Trump campaign knowingly making use of stolen emails or working with Russia/WikiLeaks to release them to his benefit and, potentially, offering a quid pro quo in exchange. "Seeking dirt" isn't a crime, the other stuff is.
Wasn't it all instigated by the Republicans looking in to trump and then the Clinton campaign hired the same company who just dived deeper.Not really, Trump has allegedly conspired directly with an American adversary who successfully launched an illegal attack on a government official in order to leak private and classified government data to harm a political opponent.
Clinton on the other hand hired an American firm to investigate her opponent in order to gain an advantage. The firm that researched and produced the dossier did so though completely legal means and were not an enemy of the United States attempting to influence American policy.
There’s a huge difference.
That may be what they can use to take Trump down but I meant how it differs from the accusation that the Clinton campaign did the same thing.Nah, the issue is the obstruction. The quid pro quo will be almost impossible to prove, even with regards to his blatantly deviant business dealings in prior years.
And then Mike Pence puts on his DMZ face to say "get off my plane" right before mother Pence pushes Trump off the plane.I can't wait for the moment a desperate Trump hijacks Air Force 1 and demands to be flown to Russia.
I dont think it's an exact comparison but it's close. Russia is not an adversary, as Obama constantly reminded us. I don't claim to know the legal details, I'm just talking about morally.
How is it morally different? I think the answer is 1) it was stolen and 2) Russia is supposedly an enemy.
1 doesnt carry a lot of weight with me because countries do that to each other all the time, including allies. 2 doesnt really move the needle IMO either. Large and powerful states like the US and Russia have a complicated and ever changing series of alliances with other countries and even contradicting alliances with multiple factions within a country. Unless a war is declared I'm not inclined to take that at face value.
Yes, they were originally hired by a PAC doing opposition research on behalf of Ted Cruz I think.Wasn't it all instigated by the Republicans looking in to trump and then the Clinton campaign hired the same company who just dived deeper.
I'd say what's makes it different in a major way is that he seems to have colluded with a state, which can now expect favors in return and which now holds something over him (pee-tape or not).
Ah, the old 'but they did it too' argument. The most popular way of shifting blame by your average 3-year old and now also the go to strategy of the President of the United States.
Sanders at it again...