Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation

Also this quote:
Unlike his concern for Ivanka, Giuliani was willing to throw Kushner under the bus.

“Jared is a fine man but men are … disposable,” Giuliani said. “But a fine woman like Ivanka, come on.”

.. Seriously what the f time are we living in.

I wonder if that’s come from talking to Trump. Basically hinting that he’s prepared to throw Kushner under the bus if needs be.
 
The wire tap story was a leak from who? Someone playing a sneaky game with leaks?
 
Also this quote:
Unlike his concern for Ivanka, Giuliani was willing to throw Kushner under the bus.

“Jared is a fine man but men are … disposable,” Giuliani said. “But a fine woman like Ivanka, come on.”

.. Seriously what the f time are we living in.

Is there a septugenarian from Manhattan that doesn't want to give Ivanka the creeps?
 
I get that. The point I'm making is that the tweet is about money trump received whereas the investigation is about money trump allegedly gave. 2 diff things, no?
But he didn't just give it, right? The story - which they are mixing up left and right - is now that Cohen paid for it on Trump's behalf, which Trump then repaid. In effect, that's a loan used by the campaign for the candidate's benefit. Hence why I think Conway put that out.
 
Also this quote:
Unlike his concern for Ivanka, Giuliani was willing to throw Kushner under the bus.

“Jared is a fine man but men are … disposable,” Giuliani said. “But a fine woman like Ivanka, come on.”

.. Seriously what the f time are we living in.
Did he really say that? I mean , seriously what the feck.
 
As much as I am/We are enjoying this saga, part of me thinks it would all come to nothing when it comes to the big issue of impeachment/criminal prosecution which would be like a frustrating end.
 
As much as I am/We are enjoying this saga, part of me thinks it would all come to nothing when it comes to the big issue of impeachment/criminal prosecution which would be like a frustrating end.

Much of that depends on the midterms.

I understand if this is based on a lack of trust of GOP Congress/Senate but if it’s based on the idea that they’re not going to have enough evidence against Trump and associates I’d suggest you’ve not been following it closely enough.
 
Much of that depends on the midterms.

I understand if this is based on a lack of trust of GOP Congress/Senate but if it’s based on the idea that they’re not going to have enough evidence against Trump and associates I’d suggest you’ve not been following it closely enough.

I understand that, but the final part of the jigsaw will always be the hardest, connecting the associates to Trump, Its all pure speculation at this point, like the unknown number, Kushner called during the Russia meeting etc.,

We will know better in the days to come. But I have this feeling Trump would walk free, irrespective of how much evidence Mueller has against him.
 
Also this quote:
Unlike his concern for Ivanka, Giuliani was willing to throw Kushner under the bus.

“Jared is a fine man but men are … disposable,” Giuliani said. “But a fine woman like Ivanka, come on.”

.. Seriously what the f time are we living in.

I mean, if you're Kushner seeing that, surely you see the writing on the wall and your first action will be a phone call to the Special Counsel indicating you're ready to talk?
 
I mean, if you're Kushner seeing that, surely you see the writing on the wall and your first action will be a phone call to the Special Counsel indicating you're ready to talk?
Considering his legal trouble and how much debt he's in, a call to the Kremlin offering information for Russian citizenship might be better.
 


He’s literally been waiting for Giuliani or someone else to drop that news yesterday because he was sitting on this.

“Ok so Cohen did pay it and Trump did pay it back but it had nothing to do with the Campaign!

Avenatti gives it half a day for the dust to settle...

“We have evidence that the impact of the payment being made before and after the election was discussed and calculated and a decision was made that it had to be made before, ergo any gift or loan made relating to the payment is a campaign contribution.”
 


Former Trump campaign aide that was interviewed by Mueller basically saying Mueller is way ahead of what the Trump team knows.

"They know exactly what they're looking for."
 
So in other words, he's a white knight. Beta male confirmed.

I've read that he got divorced (for the third time) just before joining the Trump legal team. Maybe Rudy simply sees an opportunity for himself.

Though if I were him I'd probably try and go for Melania instead, she might be more than willing to get even with the Donald after being publicly humiliated.
 
He’s literally been waiting for Giuliani or someone else to drop that news yesterday because he was sitting on this.

“Ok so Cohen did pay it and Trump did pay it back but it had nothing to do with the Campaign!

Avenatti gives it half a day for the dust to settle...

“We have evidence that the impact of the payment being made before and after the election was discussed and calculated and a decision was made that it had to be made before, ergo any gift or loan made relating to the payment is a campaign contribution.”
If all this stuff plays out as he’s saying, damn... Avenatti is good.
 
The Dems will probably take both houses and then announce they’re not interested in impeachment. It would be true to form.
As spineless as that would be. I think it's important him and his ideas are defeated in an election.
 
As spineless as that would be. I think it's important him and his ideas are defeated in an election.

Depends what Mueller comes back with really. If its fairly lightweight corruption stuff then yeah I'll probably agree, but if its collusion with Russia to rig the election, then he needs to be thrown out of office and imprisoned for life. The message it would send otherwise would be appalling.
 
Judge is apparently a Reagan appointee. He has no business saying any of that since doesn't actually know Mueller's strategy nor all of the evidence Mueller is sitting on.
 
Judge is apparently a Reagan appointee. He has no business saying any of that since doesn't actually know Mueller's strategy nor all of the evidence Mueller is sitting on.
We all seem to agree that Mueller may use Manafort to flip on Trump, and wouldn't a judge on this case have access to enough evidence to make an opinion on it?
 
We all seem to agree that Mueller may use Manafort to flip on Trump, and wouldn't a judge on this case have access to enough evidence to make an opinion on it?

He has what evidence Manafort is up against but he doesn't have all the evidence Mueller has on the broader case. Mueller going after Manafort is also well within his purview since the original statement from Rosenstein was that Mueller could go after all things related to Russian interference and any issues that may airse thereof.
 
He has what evidence Manafort is up against but he doesn't have all the evidence Mueller has on the broader case. Mueller going after Manafort is also well within his purview since the original statement from Rosenstein was that Mueller could go after all things related to Russian interference and any issues that may airse thereof.
I don't disagree, but I wouldn't think of it as disgraceful. Not much wrong with having a skeptic's point of view, which can always change upon new evidence or details. And I doubt it's a case where the judge went out to the media on his own accord to mention that.