BB had five seasons to give you all those characters though.
The only two interesting characters in the first season were Walt and Jessie, really.
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The only two interesting characters in the first season were Walt and Jessie, really.
Which might make True Detective better than BB season 1 individually, but not necessarily other seasons individually?
I haven't rewatched BB so I can't say for sure.
I haven't rewatched BB so I can't say for sure.
I'm up to date with this and I personally don't think that it's at the level of Breaking Bad. It's brilliant alright, but I was never absolutely desperate to watch the next episode, as I was with BB.
Very clever show though, it's definitely not your average crime series and the acting is top class.
Very clever show though, it's definitely not your average crime series and the acting is top class.
Surprised at people saying the latest episode was disappointing or a bit flat? I thought it was a great episode. Episode 6 was the one that slowed down a bit, but it was still very good.
Loved the final scene. Townes Van Zandt
. Whoever is in charge of the music for this show deserves a medal.
Loved the final scene. Townes Van Zandt
. Whoever is in charge of the music for this show deserves a medal.T Bone Burnett, has worked with the Coen bros before and on other films.Surprised at people saying the latest episode was disappointing or a bit flat? I thought it was a great episode. Episode 6 was the one that slowed down a bit, but it was still very good.
Loved the final scene. Townes Van Zandt
What a name. Love most of the Coen brother's films.
That's how I feel too. With Breaking Bad there was no way I wasn't watching the episode on the day it was released. With True Detective I've left episodes up to a week before getting round to watching them.
This peaked in episodes three and four. It's still the best thing on TV right now though. It just got a tad too conventional for me during the last couple of episodes.
Surprised at people saying the latest episode was disappointing or a bit flat? I thought it was a great episode. Episode 6 was the one that slowed down a bit, but it was still very good.
Loved the final scene. Townes Van Zandt
Hmmm. I definitely think it's dropped off since 5.
Funny you should mention that final scene because I thought it looked seriously out of place like something you might get in a bog standard crime show which up until ep 6 I thought this was anything but.
"my family has been around for a long time"... the villain says to himself for no apparent reason as the camera pans round to reveal his scarred face.
The first 5 were so good it seems harsh to criticise it for a dip but I do think it's quite noticeable.
You may have a point there about the last scene to be fair, but it didn't bother me. Excellent episode overall.
Normally in these big HBO shows shit goes down in the penultimate episode and the finale isn't as good, but apparently the preview to the finale for this is fecking mental. Episode 6 and 7 could be the calm before the storm.
I don't think there's been a fitter bird than her on BB.
Only Hank's wife could compete for me, that's the level of competition for me. Pinkman's string of girls isn't my type.
Not for me tbh. BB had a couple of decent ones but they don't compare to Daddario.
When I say compete, I mean she could see her on the far horizon as a tiny blip, it's not even close.
Yeah Breaking Bad really didn't have fit women on it, they were either just bad or meh like Marie.
I know a couple of people who were recommended this in a similar "It's the new BB" kind of way and were very disappointed. Breaking Bad is a much lighter (initially at least) mainstream, occasionally humorous action drama. This is more like a very slow David Fincher film. They aren't really comparable at all, other than both being very good..
This!
I ask you people:
Are we gonna see the Yellow King in the last episode?
He should be a cult member, that uses a yellow tunic (and a crown maybe), and that under the effects of LSD, must look pretty surreal and amazing in some way.
Any chance we see something like this?
or the yellow king is just a fictional character used by the cult as a kind of deity or god (like "Satan" for example)?
I hope we see a dressed fecker
I instantly thought of that George C Scott scene when he's sitting in the cinema when I saw it.
One thing I've been meaning to ask that I might have missed, what did prompt Cohle to return from his confirmed 8 years of exile ? Before watching I thought he was under cover to investigate or something but he really did disappear from Louisiana and cut all ties. What made him suddenly go back and break into Tuttle's houses ?
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/q-a-matthew-mcconaughey-talks-true-detective-20140303
Q&A with MM about True Detective.
Q&A with MM about True Detective.
He said he headed off to Alaska, working on fishing boats and bars etc, but then came back for the same reason every man will come back - unpaid debts (referring to all the missing people and unsolved murders).
I really do think the dip in quality has been quite noticeable in the last two episodes. I've watched the first five multiple times (mainly after putting other people onto it and watching it again with them) but I'm reluctant to bother again with six and seven.
I hope it pulls it back together for the finale but my expectations are not high at all.
I hope it pulls it back together for the finale but my expectations are not high at all.
6th perhaps yea but loved 7th every bit as the earlier ones. The scene where Rust shows Marty the tape and his reaction was top notch.
Yeah but still feels weird to me. Due to him leaving for Alaska, how many more kids died ?
Also another question, why are there are only two publicly displayed murders in the series (Dora Lange and the Lake Charles case) when this cult have been operating a for long time and have raped/killed many kids ? Could there be some killer(s) who like to display things and the cult who do their horrible acts secretly ?
I think he mentioned that after the hurricane (which happned while he was away iirc), the cult went on a rampage, with tons of disppearances amongst the chaos etc.
Yeah not 100% sure but I know the cult is also very much ingrained in the law over there, so a ton of disappearances would have been covered up or just filed as unsolved disappearances.
I think the 2 publically displayed killings were seen as "sacrifices" by the cult and hence displayed for the public, whilst the rest is probably just business as usual type killings.
Hence a ton of posters are re-watching each episode etc because it's so important to kind of not miss any of the dialogue etc.
This has completely opened my eyes, I must watch this again to spot these subtleties.
I don't feel it's really gone downhill in the past couple of episodes personally, especially in 7. Everything's boiling up nicely for the finale and there's still been a lot of happening with the characters.
I think Marty especially has really emerged as a great character over the past couple. Whereas Cohle was great from the start, now we're seeing the impact that Marty's actions had and how he now leads a fairly boring, mundane life without his family because of the mistakes he made. Helped to make me a lot more sympathetic to him when I was struggling to like him beforehand.
I think Marty especially has really emerged as a great character over the past couple. Whereas Cohle was great from the start, now we're seeing the impact that Marty's actions had and how he now leads a fairly boring, mundane life without his family because of the mistakes he made. Helped to make me a lot more sympathetic to him when I was struggling to like him beforehand.
If the display was intentional and like you said a proper sacrifice, why did Tuttle tried to initiate a task force to take over the case (and eventually bury it) ? I'm not sure of anything but I really doubt we're going to have a proper satisfying 8th episode where every detail unknown will be explained.
He's certainly done some actual detective work finally.
So much so that I'll be disappointed if this isn't acknowledged by Rust before the end of the last episode who after being saved by him will turn to Marty and say "Well Marty, I guess you are a.. (slight pause) True Detective after all".... both men stare at each other for a moment with grudging respect appearing across each of their faces, Marty nods, offers his hand, it's taken... fades to black... Cult of Personality by Living Colour kicks in.
True Detective is great. Watch it. You'll like it. You might like it as much as you liked Breaking Bad. You might like it more. You might not like it as much. But
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Yeah it's bizarre that people are comparing this to Breaking Bad. I think it's superior to Breaking Bad, but they are very different (and very good) shows.
One of many things that I love about True Detective is the fact that there is zero filler; no unnecessary side plots to kill time; not a single wasted scene nor moment during you consider hitting the fast forward, so to speak. For me, this is what makes some shows great: a single-minded focus and determination on the writers' part to ensure every scene cleaves to the central theme.
Breaking Bad, despite some other faults, excelled in this regard. Everything was about Walt, and to a lesser extent, Jesse, whose character existed as a foil to Walt. The Wire, through its decentralized structure, was also able to achieve this; every plot strand adding to the tapestry that David Simon was weaving (except perhaps in the final season, during which I felt the newsroom story was a bit superfluous.)
The two biggest offenders are, by far, Dexter and Homeland. Witness the story line with Mazuka's daughter. I mean, what the hell was the point of that? Or how about Brody's daughter and her boyfriend in the last season of Homeland? Filler of the worst kind! The Sopranos fell into this trap during its last season, boring us with the Vito subplot. Game of Thrones (admittedly constricted by following a popular book,) veers close to this dangerous territory with the Sam Tarley subplot. Another show which I felt was badly affected by this was Deadwood. Why would I have any interest in Calamity Jane and the elementary school (run by Skylar White,) when this takes very minutes away from Swearengen and his gang? The Shield, an excellent show by and large, had a few moments involving Wyms and Dutch that felt unnecessary. All in all, moments like these in otherwise very good shows are bit like watching Chris Smalling at RB: what is the point of incorporating something that so clearly doesn't work?
I guess one thing to take away from this is that it's very hard to keep focus, particularly over a run of multiple seasons (again kudos to Vince Gilligan for managing this.) Perhaps that's why this mini-series format that True Detective is using is so refreshing. There's little chance of filler, given that there are only 9 episodes to get the story told.
Breaking Bad, despite some other faults, excelled in this regard. Everything was about Walt, and to a lesser extent, Jesse, whose character existed as a foil to Walt. The Wire, through its decentralized structure, was also able to achieve this; every plot strand adding to the tapestry that David Simon was weaving (except perhaps in the final season, during which I felt the newsroom story was a bit superfluous.)
The two biggest offenders are, by far, Dexter and Homeland. Witness the story line with Mazuka's daughter. I mean, what the hell was the point of that? Or how about Brody's daughter and her boyfriend in the last season of Homeland? Filler of the worst kind! The Sopranos fell into this trap during its last season, boring us with the Vito subplot. Game of Thrones (admittedly constricted by following a popular book,) veers close to this dangerous territory with the Sam Tarley subplot. Another show which I felt was badly affected by this was Deadwood. Why would I have any interest in Calamity Jane and the elementary school (run by Skylar White,) when this takes very minutes away from Swearengen and his gang? The Shield, an excellent show by and large, had a few moments involving Wyms and Dutch that felt unnecessary. All in all, moments like these in otherwise very good shows are bit like watching Chris Smalling at RB: what is the point of incorporating something that so clearly doesn't work?
I guess one thing to take away from this is that it's very hard to keep focus, particularly over a run of multiple seasons (again kudos to Vince Gilligan for managing this.) Perhaps that's why this mini-series format that True Detective is using is so refreshing. There's little chance of filler, given that there are only 9 episodes to get the story told.
Good point. Nobody wants to see Chris Smalling at right back. Nobody.
I'm not sure you can say Breaking Bad was devoid of filler. Fly, for example, despite being great TV, was all filler. Gilligan said it himself. Then were was Marie's thievery, Skylar's subplots, basically that entire stupid season two plot with the silly ending. There was shitloads of filler, it just (for the most part) delivered brilliantly. I don't mind filler as long as it's still enjoyable TV. Pine Barrens in The Sopranos is one of the best episodes of TV ever and that's basically filler too.