Television True Detective | Season 2 Spoilers

I was slightly dissappointed. But it was still fantastic. I think the lack of different timelines makes it feel weird.
 
Lynk said:
I was slightly dissappointed. But it was still fantastic. I think the lack of different timelines makes it feel weird.
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Agreed.

Need to watch all 7 episodes again before the finale. Bit confused with some of the names.
 
There seems to be some internet theories about

Maggie's dad. He's not been properly introduced and he's a wealthy man. Maggie does well after separation from Marty and it doesn't seem like Marty's daughters would attend schools with grants from church, which are aimed at poor and needy. Obviously, the other place where Audrey would have been exposed to 5 horsemen or sexually explicit scenes could have been from her grandfather.

Which again throws an intriguing possibility , Maybe Maggie knows about her father's abuse of Audrey but still wants to protect her family and comes out to meet Rusty and Marty to gain crucial information in episode 7. Or she genuinely believes that her daughter's troubles were because of Marty's affairs.
 
Oh my feck, has anyone seen the trailer for the finale? It looks absolutely unbelievable.

fishfingers15 said:
There seems to be some internet theories about

Maggie's dad. He's not been properly introduced and he's a wealthy man. Maggie does well after separation from Marty and it doesn't seem like Marty's daughters would attend schools with grants from church, which are aimed at poor and needy. Obviously, the other place where Audrey would have been exposed to 5 horsemen or sexually explicit scenes could have been from her grandfather.

Which again throws an intriguing possibility , Maybe Maggie knows about her father's abuse of Audrey but still wants to protect her family and comes out to meet Rusty and Marty to gain crucial information in episode 7. Or she genuinely believes that her daughter's troubles were because of Marty's affairs.
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Did you see her paintings? A lot of us have thought that the daughter was involved in some degree. I still think so, even though I thought it would be revealed in this one.
 
She could have been abused... or maybe she found a tape in her grandfather house when she was just a kid... or maybe...

feck, she definitely knows about the cult somehow (My money on her Mother knowing too)

I hope there's enough time to wrap it up in just 1 episode (it deserves to be a long duration)
 
Great episode. Reveal at the end was fantastic.
 
This is class. I think the last two episodes have been a bit less well received as it's had to become a bit more conventional (no more flashback/juggling the two timelines). But even the past two episodes have been 'weaker' than the rest of the season, it's still utterly fantastic television.

Re: Marty's daughter (the messed up one) - when Maggie said that she (the daughter) was an artist/selling her work, did anyone else expect to see some of the paintings, showing the spiral/Yellow King/cult stuff? Still could happen, I think we'll get some sort of revelation to do with her. She's clearly seen something that she shouldn't have/was forced to see.

My heart was beating like mad at that ending - I thought the two black detectives were going to be killed by lawnmower man. Very unsettling scene. My crackpot theory - lawnmower man is nothing to do with anything. He just likes to finish sentences ominously after the people he was talking to rudely cut him off and leave.
 
Nickosaur said:
This is class. I think the last two episodes have been a bit less well received as it's had to become a bit more conventional (no more flashback/juggling the two timelines). But even the past two episodes have been 'weaker' than the rest of the season, it's still utterly fantastic television.

Re: Marty's daughter (the messed up one) - when Maggie said that she (the daughter) was an artist/selling her work, did anyone else expect to see some of the paintings, showing the spiral/Yellow King/cult stuff? Still could happen, I think we'll get some sort of revelation to do with her. She's clearly seen something that she shouldn't have/was forced to see.

My heart was beating like mad at that ending - I thought the two black detectives were going to be killed by lawnmower man. Very unsettling scene. My crackpot theory - lawnmower man is nothing to do with anything. He just likes to finish sentences ominously after the people he was talking to rudely cut him off and leave.
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I thought that episode there was up there as one of the best so far.

Never even thought about his daughters paintings. I thought the video when he screamed would be of her, but I was wrong on that one. Unless it's a massive red herring, she's definitely involved somehow though.

The lawnmower man is definitely the 'spaghetti monster' with the scars I think.
 
Predictable then. Some good lines though ... "If you were drowning, I'd throw you a barbell."

Lawnmower man still mowing lawns after all these years. And he's hardly a giant is he. These kids and their 'wacky' imagination.

Re:Maggie and the kids -
There's definitely a vibe going on that she's overly interested in what they're investigating. That visit to the bar threw up warning signs all over the place.

Also, I'm not sure why they've jumped to this conclusion about Sheriff Steve being in on it. He was just telling them what Childress had told him about the missing girl wasn't he? And we all now know that the Childress family is as fecked as the Ledouex clan. Am I missing something here? Saying that, there was enough of the cnuts in the video so feck him.

Also, there's some definite foreshadowing that
Rust
is going to die in the last episode.
His comment to Marty about hoping the old woman was wrong about death not being the end pretty much just says I'M GOING TO DIE in subtitles at the bottom of the screen.

Shall I watch the preview of the finale?
 
No Cass. It's just too knob-raising. I agree with the thought on Rust.

His comment about life "being a circle of degradation that I want to close out" certainly suggested he's walking into a volitional death. I imagine his death will somehow throw a light on the Carcosa case, and it will be necessary for him to die.
 
Cheesy said:
I thought that episode there was up there as one of the best so far.

Never even thought about his daughters paintings. I thought the video when he screamed would be of her, but I was wrong on that one. Unless it's a massive red herring, she's definitely involved somehow though.

The lawnmower man is definitely the 'spaghetti monster' with the scars I think.
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He may still be a giant for a little child. He's been called a giant or a monster only by children and I think the scars in the face adds to his appearance. I won't be surprised if he got fixed by a plastic surgeon after 95 to make sure he's not easily identified. Still doesn't describe why Dora Lange was out in the open, it makes sense to keep this operation under wraps as much as possible.
 
fishfingers15 said:
He may still be a giant for a little child. He's been called a giant or a monster only by children and I think the scars in the face adds to his appearance. I won't be surprised if he got fixed by a plastic surgeon after 95 to make sure he's not easily identified. Still doesn't describe why Dora Lange was out in the open, it makes sense to keep this operation under wraps as much as possible.
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He has a beard doesn't he? The obvious plothole there is a beard growing over scar tissue but it seemed like the beard was concealing some sort of facial disfiguring the first time we saw him.
 
DJ Jeff said:
He has a beard doesn't he? The obvious plothole there is a beard growing over scar tissue but it seemed like the beard was concealing some sort of facial disfiguring the first time we saw him.
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Spaghetti monster definitely sounds like a few additional make up involved to conceal identity.
 
One thing that bothers me a little is the fact Rust didn't notice the scars when he interviewed him in '95. They'd heard about the big man with the scars on his face and it seems like a detail Cohle wouldn't have missed.
 
Archie Leach said:
One thing that bothers me a little is the fact Rust didn't notice the scars when he interviewed him in '95. They'd heard about the big man with the scars on his face and it seems like a detail Cohle wouldn't have missed.
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Tbh, not only that but like I said earlier, Rust missing the whole cult thing in the first place seems a bit out of whack with his character and how switched on he was made to be.
 
@CassiusClaymore

I also think Rust might bite the dust. When Marty asks him why he came back, Cohle says something about (this is vaguely what he said, can't be bothered to check exactly!) "my whole life has been a continuous cycle/circle of violence and degradation ...it's time that came to a close"...or something. Seems like the only thing that's been keeping him going is getting to the bottom of this cover up. I don't think he cares what it costs him (his life), as long as he can somehow find out exactly who is behind it and can put a stop to it, or at least expose them.

edit: @DJ Jeff beat me to it a few posts up...great minds and all that?
 
Archie Leach said:
One thing that bothers me a little is the fact Rust didn't notice the scars when he interviewed him in '95. They'd heard about the big man with the scars on his face and it seems like a detail Cohle wouldn't have missed.
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I'll have to re-watch the earlier episode this appears in to clarify, but my take on this was Cohle was hampered with his view of the lawn-mower man pretty much like the viewers/present day detectives were in that last scene.

All in all, though, it was pretty easy to conclude he was the guy. Not that it's a complaint, mind you.

Incredible show and I cannot wait to see next week's installment. My only regret is that it's not a 90-minute finale. It deserves that.
 
Reasonable episode, but I thought comfortably the weakest of the 7 episodes so far, though I guess a lot depends on next weeks episode seeing as this week was largely about building with little revealed.
 
Got a little confused today with all the Tuttles I have to say. Will enjoy watching back some episodes.
 
McConaughey is tops and on one hell of a run, Interstellar next year too which I would bet my left nut will be fantastic.

Mostly agree with opinions here, Episode 7 was probably the weakest so far but it was functional, it had to layout the finale framework and even if it was the weakest it was still like 9/10 good.
 
Thought it was a great episode. Can't wait for the finale. Undecided as to whether I should watch the preview for the finale or not though.
 
fishfingers15 said:
There seems to be some internet theories about

Maggie's dad. He's not been properly introduced and he's a wealthy man. Maggie does well after separation from Marty and it doesn't seem like Marty's daughters would attend schools with grants from church, which are aimed at poor and needy. Obviously, the other place where Audrey would have been exposed to 5 horsemen or sexually explicit scenes could have been from her grandfather.

Which again throws an intriguing possibility , Maybe Maggie knows about her father's abuse of Audrey but still wants to protect her family and comes out to meet Rusty and Marty to gain crucial information in episode 7. Or she genuinely believes that her daughter's troubles were because of Marty's affairs.
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So the part about the grandfather abusing Audrey....was that verified in one of the episodes or is that the internet speaking in theory?
 
Pscholes18 said:
So the part about the grandfather abusing Audrey....was that verified in one of the episodes or is that the internet speaking in theory?
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I see that Owen has answered. It's been given credence by another unlikely source. (Don't click on the below Spoiler unless you want to see info not yet shown on an episode)
One of the reporters from the Daily Beast/USA interviewed Michelle Monaghan and asked if her family was involved (her kids Audrey and the younger one) in the plot and she inadvertently let slip that her entire family (Father, Mother and the kids) are somehow still linked to the plot. Make of that what you will
 
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