It is in this case and in 99% of cases.
Trent Alexander Arnold
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It's not though. You can question his ability (especially defensively) but he's still a star name for the league.
Never trust a cnut with three first names.
He’s this generations Steven Gerrard. No doubt he’s a very good player but because he plays for Liverpool and is scouse he’s monstrously overrated.
Not even top ten to play fullback in the prem era.
That's silly.
Not in my opinion.
Pretty self explanatory.
I don’t think that’s silly at all if you are including both sides. There are far better footballers, and far better defenders than him on that sort of list.
I think it's just about possible to be a full back and a star. Roberto Carlos was a star at least. Then there's a few debatable ones.
Personal opinion of course but I’d have the below ahead.
Irwin
Kelly
Harte
Neville
Cole
Pearce
LeSaux
Ivanovic
Walker
Dixon
Baines
Kelly being the second name on that list is very funny.
No particular order, should have mentioned.
No, I got that
Dani Alves at Sevilla another example.
Ackchyually... Alves was the most decorated player ever at one point but Messi overcame him. Not that it matters in terms of the Trent comparison, Alves was a more all-rounded threat with the ball (even though Trent is probably slightly better purely at crossing and long distance shooting) while still being a much superior defender & athlete. As were a few dozens of fullbacks in history all of whom seem to be basically uncatchable for Trent at this point if his career trajectory doesn't miraculously skyrocket (which isn't completely impossible... but I know that I wouldn't bet on it).
And on the flip side he is a fat better attacker than all of them and a better footballer than most.
He has revolutionised the role in the same way Salah has for the wide forward position in the modern PL era.
Everyone taking the piss out of him for some harmless quotes. He turned it around for me with the heartwarming story about him and a pregnant fan that contacted him for her partner’s birthday as he was his hero.
Come on, man.
He’s a really good player and the sooner he fecks off to Madrid, the better.
Didn't even mention Evra.
I assume just right backs
It's half left backs.
Or O’Shea.
Anyway. I’d add Azpilicueta and Zabaleta
There's a bunch of leftbacks on his list. Think it's just an oversight.
Nope only mentioned full backs in my original post nothing about right or left. Most of those could easily switch over the other side anyway, real footballers with multiple strong positions and in an era where the full back would probably be hooked if he decided that have more than the odd pop at goal.
I meant the fact that you omitted Evra was an oversight.
Could not switch to right back. Not a real footballer.
Coleman? Petrescu? Carr?
I wouldn’t say that, to be honest. He is a better passer of the ball than all of them, but I don’t think he is a better footballer than Cole or Irwin for example. Much more complete and well rounded players.
He isn’t particularly gifted as a dribbler, isn’t particularly strong, or fast. He also isn’t good enough to play in midfield (like Lahm or Alaba could if we are talking about the levels he is aspiring too). He also has quite a lengthy list of howlers and lazy moments which the very best just don’t have.
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Spot on, you are correct.
Agree with @TheReligion picks also.
So that's two of the 10 (who I agree with you on).
I think Trent is underrated on here, probably due to the bias. Same as how Evra is overrated on here too. It's a given though.
Wes Brown. We really could go on all day here.
Come on. Now you're just taking the piss.
How is he overrated? He was a World Class fullback.
You could swap the word ‘game’ for ‘law’ and use it as a defence in a small crimes court