Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

If Martial had played like Sanches, I wouldn't have a problem with him going on loan, but they've had vastly different experiences after their big money transfers. Thus really incomparable.

If Martial played like Sanchez after big money move and loaned to foreign league relegation battling team, CAF would be in big meltdown calling all the names under sun for player and whoever signed him. He would be labeled as flop.
 
Bayern Munich has almost reached an agreement with Premier League club Swansea City for the loan of Renato Sanches. The deal is on its way to being closed. It will be an initial loan of 5 million plus a right to purchase of 30 million. The future of the young Portuguese star is in the Premier League.
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/baye...inalized-with-swansea-city-for-renato-sanches

This is from Di Marzio's website. It's hundred percent a failed transfer from Bayern. If we had loaned out Shaw to some midtable English team in the second year with an option to purchase then nobody would've argued otherwise. People here like to pretend that Bayern doesn't do anything wrong.

Exactly. It adds more to my point that there is option to buy.
 
City spent 50 for Walker, 35 for their goalkeeper, 30 for Danillo and 40 for Bernardo Silva. Plus a bunch of others... Mendy for 55m etc. They're at about 200m for the summer ALREADY. And they're also looking at spending 60+ on Sanchez.
Yeah, 50 for mendy, 50 for walker, 40 for bernardo, 30 for danilo, 35 for ederson, plus another 15 or so for young prospects.

They also sold kelechi for 25 and a bunch of others for around another 45 or so
 
Oh, so are posters finally allowed to criticise Bayern now?

They made a big mistake here, and they wouldn't be loaning him to Swansea with an option to buy if they thought otherwise.
 
Bayern Munich has almost reached an agreement with Premier League club Swansea City for the loan of Renato Sanches. The deal is on its way to being closed. It will be an initial loan of 5 million plus a right to purchase of 30 million. The future of the young Portuguese star is in the Premier League.
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/baye...inalized-with-swansea-city-for-renato-sanches

This is from Di Marzio's website. It's hundred percent a failed transfer from Bayern. If we had loaned out Shaw to some midtable English team in the second year with an option to purchase then nobody would've argued otherwise. People here like to pretend that Bayern doesn't do anything wrong.

Hardly failed if they are basically getting their money back, chances are with clauses etc.
 
Hardly failed if they are basically getting their money back, chances are with clauses etc.

Big clubs buy to improve their team and not to sell at loss. We only lost 15m on Di Maria but he was a very bad signing for us.
 
Big clubs buy to improve their team and not to sell at loss. We only lost 15m on Di Maria but he was a very bad signing for us.

Yup, and unlike Sanches he still had quite an impact, iirc he had the highest number of assists for us that season.
 
If Martial played like Sanchez after big money move and loaned to foreign league relegation battling team, CAF would be in big meltdown calling all the names under sun for player and whoever signed him. He would be labeled as flop.

But who cares about Bayern and their potential flop? Plenty of posters weren't sold on Sanches and while Bayern are well run, I don't think anyone believes that they are unfallible. You are working yourself for very little.
 
Big clubs buy to improve their team and not to sell at loss. We only lost 15m on Di Maria but he was a very bad signing for us.

They won't make a loss! In fact they will probably make a profit at the quoted figures, albeit a small one.
 
Be very surprising if the renato sanches loan deal doesn't include a buy-back option for bayern
 
But who cares about Bayern and their potential flop? Plenty of posters weren't sold on Sanches and while Bayern are well run, I don't think anyone believes that they are unfallible. You are working yourself for very little.

I don't remember poster names but many/few believed they are some sort of club who never mistakes in transfer market.
 
Absolutely incredible deal by Swansea. Even to get Sanches on loan would be a fantastic deal but to get him on loan with an option to buy is mindblowing
 
City spent 50 for Walker, 35 for their goalkeeper, 30 for Danillo and 40 for Bernardo Silva. Plus a bunch of others... Mendy for 55m etc. They're at about 200m for the summer ALREADY. And they're also looking at spending 60+ on Sanchez.
Net spend the same as you though.

Sanchez at £60m is just something you go for if it's got any potential, just because of how rare players of his level are available at that price, from your rivals.
 
How do you feel if we send Martial on loan? Big money signing who failed to make mark and now sent on loan.

Quite a strange comparison..
Martial had a fantastic first season and contributed much to our performance. He had a difficult season last year, however, still managed to get minutes.

Complete different to the Sanches situation as he only joined last year and hardly got minutes from Ancelotti + when he did it was fairly obvious that he wasn't ready for Bayern yet. So they loan him to give him minutes & hopefully confidence to bounce back next summer as they did in the past.

If we would have loaned Memphis you could compare the situations, however, not with Martial!
 
Quite a strange comparison..
Martial had a fantastic first season and contributed much to our performance. He had a difficult season last year, however, still managed to get minutes.

Complete different to the Sanches situation as he only joined last year and hardly got minutes from Ancelotti + when he did it was fairly obvious that he wasn't ready for Bayern yet. So they loan him to give him minutes & hopefully confidence to bounce back next summer as they did in the past.

If we would have loaned Memphis you could compare the situations, however, not with Martial!
If Martial played like Sanchez after big money move and loaned to foreign league relegation battling team, CAF would be in big meltdown calling all the names under sun for player and whoever signed him. He would be labeled as flop.

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Why would Bayern buy back a player that they own.
If it's loan with option to buy, it likely will include a buy back option for bayern. If it's a straight loan, then no need for that obviously
 
Yeah, 50 for mendy, 50 for walker, 40 for bernardo, 30 for danilo, 35 for ederson, plus another 15 or so for young prospects.

They also sold kelechi for 25 and a bunch of others for around another 45 or so

So... more than 200m spent then? You just said they'd spent the same as United, around 145m. My point was they'd spent far more than that ALREADY and they're buying Sanchez for a reported 60m AND they were already ahead of United in terms of their squad. City have outspent United in 9 out of the past 10 transfer windows.
 
Net spend the same as you though.

Sanchez at £60m is just something you go for if it's got any potential, just because of how rare players of his level are available at that price, from your rivals.

We weren't discussing net spend. We were talking about spending. United have spent far less than City yet again this summer. For about 9/10 years City have outspent United.
 
Why would he snub Chelsea for Liverpool?:confused:
It's entirely based on the fact that Klopp will play him in midfield, whilst Conte saw him as an alternative to Moses at RWB.

Chamberlain wants to play in midfield?
 
£35m for Oxlade-Chamberlain and for some people here Matic was underwhelming signing
 
Who the hell are Liverpool going to have upfront if they lose Origi? And when Sturridge is injured? Seems weird to me they would lose Origi.
 
Less Aurier more Perisic, he wanted the move, we were given a price and Ed and the Glazers wouldnt budge on it so we didnt pay it and he's staying. Sounds like a financial retsraint to me.

Funny how nobody seemed to want to pay 50M or even get the "turd that won't flush" only a couple of months ago.

The problem there isn't financial constraints. Back in June, with Morata escalating, Lukaku Chelsea-bound, no Neymar saga or mentalists offering 100M+ for Dembele and Coutinho, Perisic's fee looked steep.

Woody tried to turn the screws on Inter with FFP and has ended up with egg all over his face. Now you have an ego and bad blood problem, not a financial restraint one. Bad execution and it's too late now for Inter to even contemplate it.

Aurier was also needed for Valencia cover/roatation as we are now aware that Valencia has been playing with an injury and his price tag was miniscule compared to other full back prices this summer. But we've passed up the opportunity and now he will go to spurs, frustrating.

Mourinho knows his squad and Valencia's fitness better than we do. He doesn't want Aurier, or PSG won't sell to us, or this court saga has delayed it too much (José isn't a fan of deadline day rushing). All better explanations than the Glazers not wanting to spend 25-30M.

Something isn't right, it has to be for financial reasons though, maybe the Galzers want value in the market with our next few windows after splashing lavishly on players. who knows.
Speculative, much?
 
I don't remember poster names but many/few believed they are some sort of club who never mistakes in transfer market.

Look at their young attacking players. They still rely heavily on Robben, Ribery, Muller and Lewandowski with no young world class potential/talent in sight. And everybody knows their history with direct imports from South America is a bloody mess. That doesn´t mean they are not a well run club. You can afford to burn money with Breno, when you get Boateng for virtually nothing.
 
Look at their young attacking players. They still rely heavily on Robben, Ribery, Muller and Lewandowski with no young world class potential/talent in sight. And everybody knows their history with direct imports from South America is a bloody mess. That doesn´t mean they are not a well run club. You can afford to burn money with Breno, when you get Boateng for virtually nothing.
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Who the hell are Liverpool going to have upfront if they lose Origi?

Firmino, Sturridge and Solanke. German coaches don´t care about age. Klopp already played TAA/Gomez and he´ll have no problem using Solanke either.