Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

Rozay said:
For the record, I don't want Shaw to go, but this 'not giving him a chance' thing needs to stop. He's been here 3 years. He missed 9 months injured, yes - but he's still only had about 5 stand-out games in his time here.

Also, it is you who said to 'spend £50m on a LB', nobody else did. That kind of investment isn't necessary. Also, we can have more than one left back in the squad without it being some sort of insult to Shaw.
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I respect you have some measured and objective opinion on Shaw, but serious injuries are not like in FIFA career mode. There's no timeline in which you get back restored to your previous condition. A broken leg can have other effects especially at the age of 20. Some should really cut the boy some slack, i'm not saying you, but there are posters here slating him like it was his fault for losing a crucial year of his development.
Needless to say i like Shaw, and in those few games he played fit and ready he's showed what he's capable of, some people have short memories. In those games he's showed and looked much more a Manchester United full-back than Darmian for example.
 
Dazzmondo said:


Aurier has reached agreement with Man Utd. Waiting for a favourable result of his court case re. entering the UK (authorised by PSG to speak with other clubs)
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This will be a superb signing!
TsuWave said:
in form Aurier is one of the best RB's in the world imo, and a good, young, (arguably) upgrade on Valencia, def has a high ceiling. I'm assuming he just wants to get on with his football now, and if the deal goes through, hopefully Mourinho can help him mature. Very much a good deal, especially at the reported fees.
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Totally agree with this.

People are saying we need a LB more than we need a RB. I get the point but I think Jose is happy to trust Darmien, Mitchell and Blind to handle that wing. The right back position is more light. If Valencia gets hurt, we might be in serious trouble. Darmien is a back up there but he is limited. Getting Aurier makes a lot of sense especially considering his versatility (he can actually play across the backline and even in the midfield) and attacking instinct.
 
Macedonian_FAN said:
I respect you have some measured and objective opinion on Shaw, but serious injuries are not like in FIFA career mode. There's no timeline in which you get back restored to your previous condition. A broken leg can have other effects especially at the age of 20. Some should really cut the boy some slack, i'm not saying you, but there are posters here slating him like it was his fault for losing a crucial year of his development.
Needless to say i like Shaw, and in those few games he played fit and ready he's showed what he's capable of, some people have short memories. In those games he's showed and looked much more a Manchester United full-back than Darmian for example.
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He got injured after a whole season here, even in his first season he wasn't particularly impressive.

In any case, nobody is saying the injury is his failure or whatever. The facts of the matter though, is that we thought we were signing a left back for the team because we needed one. If for whatever reason - broken leg, gone to prison for a few years - whatever the reason really, that Shaw cannot give us the service, the need still exists, and basically hasn't been addressed for an entire 3 years since Shaw joined, for a number of reasons. We need to sign another left back, so that we can have a left back when Shaw can't be a left back (which seems to be often). Again, that player doesn't have to cost 50m, the club need to do a lot better than only seeing a 50m player as the only optional on the market.

I'll say again, Andy Robertson is a quality LB who cost Liverpool 7.5m. We could have done far worse. As it is, Shaw will miss the start of the season, then I'm unsure how long exactly will be written off after that under the 'cut him some slack, he's just recovered from injury' policy. By that time, we'll be well into the fourth season in a row of getting very little return on our investment in him. A squad should have two good options at LB anyway.
 
I don't want Di Maria and really hate him, but at the same time, it won't be surprise if Jose moved for him if there's a chance as he definitely won't know the circumstances of him leaving.
 
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I dont think Di Maria would want a move back. He can take the another option and move somewhere else, we are not the only club interested in him anyway
 
Rozay said:
He got injured after a whole season here, even in his first season he wasn't particularly impressive.

In any case, nobody is saying the injury is his failure or whatever. The facts of the matter though, is that we thought we were signing a left back for the team because we needed one. If for whatever reason - broken leg, gone to prison for a few years - whatever the reason really, that Shaw cannot give us the service, the need still exists, and basically hasn't been addressed for an entire 3 years since Shaw joined, for a number of reasons. We need to sign another left back, so that we can have a left back when Shaw can't be a left back (which seems to be often). Again, that player doesn't have to cost 50m, the club need to do a lot better than only seeing a 50m player as the only optional on the market.

I'll say again, Andy Robertson is a quality LB who cost Liverpool 7.5m. We could have done far worse. As it is, Shaw will miss the start of the season, then I'm unsure how long exactly will be written off after that under the 'cut him some slack, he's just recovered from injury' policy. By that time, we'll be well into the fourth season in a row of getting very little return on our investment in him. A squad should have two good options at LB anyway.
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He wasn't particularly impressive but none of our players were. That was under LVG and i i remember there where couple of small injuries that interrupted his first season here after playing 2 seasons for Southampton without a single injury if i remember correctly. Which to me points out to a bit of bad luck as well as his young age and development.
It has been addressed by investing in an expensive, young English talent in Shaw, who as i said has been unlucky. We could have gone for Robertson but we already have solid option in Darmian and Blind, while Mitchell should be in our future planning when we think of buying another young left-back like Robertson/Tierney.
My point is i can see the management's logic in having trust in Shaw's potential and giving him a final season while we have other priorities at this moment, like the problem of scoring goals and not having an influential winger that could win us matches. Bringing even Mendy for example wouldn't have solved that, whatever way we put it out.
 


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Macedonian_FAN said:
He wasn't particularly impressive but none of our players were. That was under LVG and i i remember there where couple of small injuries that interrupted his first season here after playing 2 seasons for Southampton without a single injury if i remember correctly. Which to me points out to a bit of bad luck as well as his young age and development.
It has been addressed by investing in an expensive, young English talent in Shaw, who as i said has been unlucky. We could have gone for Robertson but we already have solid option in Darmian and Blind, while Mitchell should be in our future planning when we think of buying another young left-back like Robertson/Tierney.
My point is i can see the management's logic in having trust in Shaw's potential and giving him a final season while we have other priorities at this moment, like the problem of scoring goals and not having an influential winger that could win us matches. Bringing even Mendy for example wouldn't have solved that, whatever way we put it out.
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I personally don't agree that Darmian and Blind are good enough to play left back for a prolonged period for us. Mitchell isn't up to it yet either, and the fact he played only 55 mins on tour, 10 mins at right wing, the rest at left wing back. It doesn't look like Jose sees him as a proper LB option.

Your points are fair though, and I don't intend to write off Shaw, but I don't think the Plan B is good enough. For one reason or another, we have had to rely on Plan B at left back a lot more than we have.needed to at RB, which is why I preferred an extra LB to Aurier, good as he is.
 
If we do get him we would have unbelievable attacking talent in our reserve/youth team.
 
Zoo said:
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I mean, he's got the right idea of leaving City, but a 17 year old failing to turn up for training several times is ridiculous. Imagine somebody like Angel Gomes kicking up the same fuss?
 
Hammerfell said:
He's only 29? Looks about 40. Must be the booze.
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Didn't he get done for drink driving a couple of years ago? Starting to think he has a problem. He looks in awful shape though, I barely recognised him from the picture.
 
El Zoido said:
Didn't he get done for drink driving a couple of years ago? Starting to think he has a problem. He looks in awful shape though, I barely recognised him from the picture.
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Didn't he supposedly, I emphasise supposedly, turn up worse the wear for training with us, the supposed same incident with Wayne.
 
Is Aurier a right back? And what are the chances of him getting back in the UK?
 
 
Yes please. Sancho and Gomes together. :drool:

I doubt it will happen as he would only be moving because he wants to start getting chances, and we've already got the likes of Rashford and Martial looking for opportunities alongside Lukaku (who is quite young himself). He's probably more likely to see the other top teams as more likely to give him chances in the not too distant future.
 
He's from Watford. Will go to either Arsenal or Spurs if he wants a quick route into the first team as well as a return 'home' down south - most likely Spurs.
 
MadDogg said:
Yes please. Sancho and Gomes together. :drool:

I doubt it will happen as he would only be moving because he wants to start getting chances, and we've already got the likes of Rashford and Martial looking for opportunities alongside Lukaku (who is quite young himself). He's probably more likely to see the other top teams as more likely to give him chances in the not too distant future.
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We have the best opening for a talented wide man of the top PL teams. You can obviously name physical players we have that can play there, after all, we do line up with XI - but the point is, we do not have ONE player who has nailed down a starting spot, nor do we have ONE genuine prospect in the academy in terms of wingers.
 
Rozay said:
We have the best opening for a talented wide man of the top PL teams. You can obviously name physical players we have that can play there, after all, we do line up with XI - but the point is, we do not have ONE player who has nailed down a starting spot, nor do we have ONE genuine prospect in the academy in terms of wingers.
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How about T.chong & DJ buffogne isn't a bad shout too.
 
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