Has the transfer window been closed? I thought it was still open.
Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic
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Has the transfer window been closed? I thought it was still open.
Which is why we managed to buy Pogba and Lukaku the way we did? City and PSG are p*ssing money around, but what exactly did they win apart from diddly-squat? How many of their players were in the BdO shortlist? The Mbappe deal aside (reminiscent of Ronaldo in some ways with his love for Madrid), how many top players move where we're not linked? Neymar's move is indeed an exception; if PSG do indeed pay 220 Mn for him, that'd be more than a third of their revenues (520 Mn of so). That's not normal and would not be sensible for any club that actually runs like a business. Throw in the wages mentioned and it's downright stupid.
Add also the factor that PSG (and City) have a long way to go in terms of market penetration (fan numbers globally) and genuine endorsement maximization. Overspending in the hope of catching up there could be viable for them. For us, the math is very different.
Now, coming back to reality, even if you accept that City and PSG could outspend us, that still leaves us ahead of the vast majority of clubs in the world. No club barring these two can realistically expect anything but being blown away in a straight financial fight. And I'd wager that there are more world-class players available than they can buy - and that a decent number of those that we want may even prefer us to them.
Finally, he's a CEO of a massive brand. What do you expect him to say? "Yeah, we're the richest and biggest, but well, we're not quite the top of the world, because these plaything-clubs can actually outgun us whenever needed"?
Even the bullshit artists and fake ITKs are quiet oddly.
I'd rather half of John Stonesimagine being able to sign Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Romario in one summer for less than £25m
Good post and agree on all your points. We need a few players but i don't want to see us paying incredible fees for players who, quite frankly, aren't going to particularly improve us as a side. We have proved with Pogba and Lukaku we will pay what we need to when required but we don't need to be doing that for every player.
The numbers for Mbappe and Neymar are ludicrous in the extreme.
Zidane wasn't zidane yet, Poborsky was off the back of an impressive showing at the Euro's it's that good performance at a tournament tax.
Or 6 halfbacks£160m
You can get 3 fullbacks with that money
There's a theme here. 12 quarterbacks.
I wanted to say that
80/90 million for Dembele, anyone?
The cost of quarterbacks. I'm not so sure. Ed would faint at the wages.I wanted to say that
When we're a laughing stock under incompetent manager who chased after unrealistic signing.
PSG: "money is nothing for us"
Levy: "can I have X for cheap?"
PSG:
Little else to get excited about without actual football going on is there? Preseason games are just fitness they are of no real interest. Twitter is what the summer is all about, the ride is what makes it fun whether we get the player or not.
And thats exactly what United are trying to do.
However the clubs we are dealing with seemingly want to rip us off. Chelsea want us to pay a "Lukaku tax" (utter madness due to their own incompetence) and Inter want to sell a player they bought for 16mil for about 3 times more.
But we cant just pay whatever those clubs want from us. We refused to do that with Morata, and I sincerely hope we do the same with Inter and Chelsea. Thats not to say i dont want us to sign someone, but if we are being overpriced, we should look elsewhere.
You think we will get someone cheap if we wait. It sounds noble, but they all know we have money, they all know we are desperate. It could be we will pay more. They will always make Manchester United pay more. If we get someone cheaper there will still be United tax involved and then be actually could be buying utter rubbish.
Good post.
United are run sensibly and sustainably. If that requires us to say no at times, then so be it.
What if it means no CL again and losing our manager?
Instantly morph into Liverpool.
I wonder what the wages will be like. It must be almost impossible to say to a player "we're going to pay nearly twice the world record for you, but not reflect that in salary".
In all this all I can think of is how utter ridiculous is our scouting system. They cannot unearth one young and high quality player? All we hear are names of some high profile players being targeted. Is that all there is to scouting now?
There is United tax, and then is a blatant ripoff though.
50 mil for Perisic is daylight robbery. I bet you Inter will struggle to get 25 mil for him from everyone else. We signed Darmian from Italy for a reasonable fee. Not all our dealings have to like that.
What people fail to consider is that if we pay 50 mil for a 28 year old journeyman, the next time we go into the market, clubs will ask for 100m. People want short term solutions to long term problems(Just paying is not the answer). Clubs rip City off because they have shown that they are willing to pay whatever price. More often that not, its turned out be a mistake. This is still the same club that paid 42 mil for Mangala. Just look at last Summer. City did a lot paying then too. Most of their signings failed miserably. They can afford to do that, we cant.
Watching Youtube compilations. Playing XBox/PS games.
Hopefully with the addition of that guy from Juventus and Mourinho hopefully staying for a bit longer than 3 years we can start to take a longer term approach to transfers.
So who do you think we should sign and what we will have to pay for them?
Its a risk we have to take.
Tbh, its not like Jose has not been backed heavily in the market, and he has a decent squad. Some failings will fall on him if he fails abysmally.
Imo, our problems will not be solved by shopping solely, but by getting more out of our current players. That is on Jose.
If we cannot afford to, then our scouting should be better. We literally had a first seat view to what Delle Ali could do yet we let him go to Spurs without any interest. That's just one example. Either we improve our scouting or keep getting used to being ripped off while not performing well as we don't have a Fergie anymore to pull rabbits out of a hat.
That is a question that our transfer team will be working on.
When we trying to sign Morata, I never thought we would get Lukaku for example, and for less than the 100m that Everton supposedly wanted.
I do think we are trying to.
Its just that the fruits of that take longer to be seen. And a lot of people lack patience.
The only way these transfer fee´s will slow down is if FFP is regulated and acted upon properly fining a club owned by sugar daddies is irrelevant they must have and impose harsher penalties such as transfer bans and being kicked out of the champions league and so on only then will these clubs play ball.
Still think we vastly overpaid for him, but yes it was better than 100m.
It is. These clubs are obviously manipulating the system and sticking two fingers up. The fact that they are basically sponsoring themselves is ridiculous.
Tweets...
If Mourhino doesn't get minimum top 4 with squad he's got he needs sacking. Perisic + Matic are not going to massively upgrade us.
Anyway I'd rather we have a manager who could get the best out of the players we have (especially young players) than a manager who is focused defensive tactics (Fellaini).
The cost of quarterbacks. I'm not so sure. Ed would faint at the wages.
As someone who doesn't follow "football", I am not even sure what postion is that
We cannot wait ages in this environment to just hope that out scouting will ultimately improve and bear fruits. We have to keep spending well while we improve our scouting else we fall into a trap of becoming a sleeping giant. Once that happens revenues can easily start to fade.
The bloke who shouts all the numbers out and chucks the ball.As someone who doesn't follow "football", I am not even sure what postion is that
This same manager just won us the Europa and has a CV which would be the envy of most managers in the game. Think we are too blinded by the "need to get the best out of the players" line. You can only polish what's in front of you and if it's the likes of Fellaini what can one do but try and utilize him as well as he can.
That business about young players is if the players are actually as good as fans think they are.
Thought there was 2 pages of new Tweets when I logged on.
But it's just pages of pointless discussion.
But it's just pages of pointless discussion.