Doesn't convince me, sorry. I feel Mourinho won't shut Rashford's door, so will always start a forward on the wing. Besides, James and Mkhitaryan would be overlapping too much. The Armenian always played very centrally, like Mata, when starting on the right-wing.
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Oh exciting stuff.
Nainggolan would fit the bill of creating a team of physically superior players. And Perisic as well, pretty tall for a wide man and quite aggressive.
And would definitely pin down the 4-3-3 most fans want.
oh goody. How goes the Morata talks?
I do not particularly agree that José has to play with a forward on the wing as I only remember that being effective at Inter which was years ago. If anything, a wide forward would be essential for the purpose of increasing the goal tally and Martial fits the bill more than Rashford and certainly more than Perisic.
Either formation with Nainggolan or James would be pretty exciting.
Nainggolan
Herrera------Pogba
Mkhitaryan-----Lukaku-----Perisic
Or
Herrera-------Pogba
Mkhitaryan-----James-----Perisic
Lukaku
I really like both players tbh, but I don't think we're getting either. Nainggolan is after a new contract and I don't think we're in for James.Herrera------Pogba
Mkhitaryan-----Lukaku-----Perisic
Or
Herrera-------Pogba
Mkhitaryan-----James-----Perisic
Lukaku
Was i not reading he's chanhged his mind and is now off to PSG?
I'd be interested to see what you think our starting lineup will like look next season @Android1974
Herrera would play the holding role, not Nainggolan. Fabinho makes more sense if we're going 4-3-3.
Nainggolan #6 and Herrera #8, that's crazy!
He would only make sense alongside Pogba in 4-3-3.This kinda highlights the problem I see with us this season unless we resolve it with another attacking player with that X factor. There is a lot of support compared to genuine goal threat in Lukaku. I prefer your second line up. In that, I see Pogba, Micky and James shouldering the supply, but we would need more than Lukaku to be burdened with goals. Just my way of saying I'd rather us have a goal threat where Perisic is,
Herrera-------Pogba
Mkhitaryan-----James/ or Fabinho in DM-----Martial
Lukaku
It looks more balanced imo. With Martial and Micky cutting inside (increasing the goal threat to support Lukaku) allowing the FBs to bomb forward, Fabinho covering as a false CB to make a back 3.Mkhitaryan-----James/ or Fabinho in DM-----Martial
Lukaku
Neither have joined the club and they're talking as though they have.
It's weird with Walker. There is never any news of possible agreements, medicals or announcements. He is still at spurs player. Yet everyone seems to talk as though he is already at City? Very confusing.
Too early to tell, really, there's too many conflicting signs. We could be going hardcore 4-3-3 with Nainggolan, go 4-4-2 diamond or just keep 4-2-3-1, which I feel is still the most likely. Right now, if I had to risk it, but I have many doubts, we would start the season with something like this:
De Gea
Valencia–Bailly–Jones–Blind
Herrera–Pogba
Perišić–Mkhitaryan-Rashford
Lukaku
Valencia–Bailly–Jones–Blind
Herrera–Pogba
Perišić–Mkhitaryan-Rashford
Lukaku
IMO we need a Carrick replacement more than a no. 10.
We played 4-2-3-1 a lot last season, but I think we played better (especially when Carrick had a decent game), were more balanced and picked up more points playing 4-3-3. We ended the season playing 4-2-3-1 against Ajax and it wasn't pretty.
@Android1974 I think the 4-2-3-1 can work in some games but in others our midfield gets too overrun and for that reason, I'd prefer to sign a DM and use one of our existing players as a no. 10 whenever we use 4-2-3-1 in some of the games.
We played 4-2-3-1 a lot last season, but I think we played better (especially when Carrick had a decent game), were more balanced and picked up more points playing 4-3-3. We ended the season playing 4-2-3-1 against Ajax and it wasn't pretty.
@Android1974 I think the 4-2-3-1 can work in some games but in others our midfield gets too overrun and for that reason, I'd prefer to sign a DM and use one of our existing players as a no. 10 whenever we use 4-2-3-1 in some of the games.
Pogba is wasted in that formation though far to deep for a player of his ability and he can't roam free as it would leave the defence exposed.
I think personally we should be looking at a 4-3-3 and recruiting a CM to play with Herrera and Pogba.
It's simple. We need a goalscoring wide-player and another midfielder. Then we will be well on our way. We have a month to do it before the start of the season. Plenty of time.
Our main problem was not being overrun in midfield, what limited our season decisively were those home games we had 25 shots and still draw. I always think the basic formation the one for those games, where we should be imposing our game, not those were Mourinho goes extra-reactive and mirrors and limits our play to the opponent.
Free Pogba, again! The imprisoned Pogba myth. Go check the France-England highlights.
We should by a defensive midfielder to fight with Herrera for the #6 spot if we're keeping 4-2-3-1, or an attacking #8 if trying to go for a 4-3-3, which has been the defensive option for Mourinho.
What is the understanding of 'deep talks'? Like balls deep?
France played a 4-4-2....
Yeah, another midfield two were Pogba's supposed to be constrained.
I think we could have won a lot of those drawn games with either formation to be honest - we were just rubbish at putting the ball in the back of the net. For the tougher matches, I can't see Jose not having a bit more steel in midfield.
You guys keep referencing one game where Pogba killed a pathetic England team in a 4-4-2
He had good games for us there too, for instance, I remember him, in an incredibly game we've draw although completely dominating Anderlecht away, on a midfield two with… Carrick!
Compete from him. feck off.
No its not the midfield two situation that constrains him but the formation 4-2-3-1 because the two in that particular formation are supposed to shield the defence and aren't supposed to move forward.
I suppose you can play a deep lying playmaker in there too and he has the range of passing to do that but Pogba is much more than just a playmaker.
Don't want James. Hasn't done anything since 2014 world cup. Not worth $50m. Laughable really to pay that for a guy that was bought over a world cup tournament performance 4 years ago who still can't break into a first team.
Whys subsidide Madrid over a failed glamour purchase?
Whys subsidide Madrid over a failed glamour purchase?
He's a fabulous footballer. Worth taking a punt on although I agree it's a risk paying crazy money.
If Jose signs both James and Perisic, then at least two of Mikhi, Mata, Martial and Lingard will suffer significant cut in game time. No doubt about that.
Fair enough as long as it's Juan & Jesse
Why not Martial? Mata was miles better than him last season.
Both, can't see it really. We still have to invest money in the defensive midfield and, perhaps, on one fullback.
Because he's younger and has a higher ceiling - at this point Mata is what he is, which is good but Martial has potential to be better.
I have no idea who or what Dale Johnson is.