Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

City should be in for Aurier, if Pep can babysit him they could get the bargain of the window.
 
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I really hope RedCafe pay you a salary. You're a machine!
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City should be in for Aurier, if Pep can babysit him they could get the bargain of the window.

Decent shout. I'm surprised there's no discussion about Aurier on the Juve forum. Instead they're discussing TMNT and Biker Mice from Mars in the De Sciglio transfer thread.
 
Do you not understand how it works? If we received a fee for Rooney then either we would have to pay his wages for like a year or spend more to get Lukaku. Rooney's fee is not officially on paper but it IS part of the deal.

If Everton bought him for a fee we wouldn't directly have to pay Rooney anything for any amount of time.

In my opinion Rooneys still worth around £20m so if we're paying 75 minimum for Lukaku that's pretty much £95m swing. Rooneys now pretty shite but hes still 30 and United and Englands top scorer. I think we could've and should've done a little better with this deal.

We've paid Bale and Ronaldo money and got Lukaku. RVN and Rooney himself were bought for alot less in comparison.
 
Think he'd end up like Maicon did, found out in a league thats a bit quick. French league would suit him more
 
If Everton bought him for a fee we wouldn't directly have to pay Rooney anything for any amount of time.
If they bought him for a fee then they won't be able to afford his wages hence we have to essentially pay Rooney to move to Everton by paying the difference in his contract.
 
:lol: No - all the staff are volunteers. Thanks for the compliment though.
Seriously, this is the best run forum I have been a part of. The mods and admins do a cracking job - you're all extremely fair.

Enough of the arse kissing from me anyway, back to the tweets!
 
Are you seriously trying to compare deals we did over 13-15 years ago to what we are paying now?

Given inflation, RVNs £19m transfer in 2001 would've cost £28m in todays money

And Rooneys £25m is £38m

Lukakus a good player but the fee is ridiculous.
 
Given inflation, RVNs £19m transfer in 2001 would've cost £28m in todays money

And Rooneys £25m is £38m

Lukakus a good player but the fee is ridiculous.

Normal inflation and football inflation are two different things. The rates for football inflation are crazy.

And let's not kid ourselfs by saying RVN would be worth 28m and Rooney 38m. 18 year old Rooney and prime RVN would both cost anything from 70-90 million in today's market
 
Given inflation, RVNs £19m transfer in 2001 would've cost £28m in todays money

And Rooneys £25m is £38m

Lukakus a good player but the fee is ridiculous.
We're talking about football transfer fees. Inflation isn't the same as on a loaf of bread.
 
Given inflation, RVNs £19m transfer in 2001 would've cost £28m in todays money

And Rooneys £25m is £38m

Lukakus a good player but the fee is ridiculous.
That's normal inflation. The money going into football clubs, particularly premier league clubs, and particularly ourselves, have increased many times over. I have no idea if this website is right or not, but going by it our revenue in 01/02 was £146m. Our revenue in 15/16 was £515m.
 
Normal inflation and football inflation are two different things. The rates for football inflation are crazy.

And let's not kid ourselfs by saying RVN would be worth 28m and Rooney 38m. 18 year old Rooney and prime RVN would both cost anything from 70-90 million in today's market
Plus the rest for Rooney. He'd be at least £120m or so IMO. Probably more.
 
That's normal inflation. The money going into football clubs, particularly premier league clubs, and particularly ourselves, have increased many times over. I have no idea if this website is right or not, but going by it our revenue in 01/02 was £146m. Our revenue in 15/16 was £515m.

Thanks for the insight.
 
Even considering football inflation I still feel the fee is too much for a player like Lukaku when Bale and Suarez transferred for similar fees.
 
First, I don't understand what you're talking about regarding the exciting attacking signing we made under SAF as if we're not doing it already now. If Lukaku isn't an exciting attacking signing with his 25 goals in the league so what's the exciting one ? Also how do you consider isn't an attacking player ? or you just made your mind that we're bringing him to track back only like the myth of Jose restricting our wings ? If I remember correctly, SAF had previously signed Young and Valencia who are in exactly the same category as Perisic.

Out of the 4 signings we're going to make this summer we're bringing a ball playing defender, a proven goal scorer and a winger + only a specific DMF to free Pogba from his defensive duties but you assumed this is Jose reverting to a defensive football like he did with Inter. I don't understand really.

What I can say anyway is the manager is allowed to have a vision in building his team and he should get full responsibility of building his side in his own ways then we can evaluate his work and what he did here, otherwise we shouldn't have hired Mourinho from the first place, easy and simple.

Lukaku ISNT an EXCITING attacking player in my mind no, he is a big, strong athletic striker, the type Mourinho likes, nothing wrong with that but personally I dont think he is anywhere near the quality of an Ibrahimovic, Drogba or even Milito for example and we are talking about a possible world record fee. I have said in other posts when Lukaku is at his best he is almost unplayable, when he isnt he is really really poor and of course I dont think we are signing him to track back, firstly he plays on the shoulder that is all he can do and secondly when I was talking about attacking you I was talking about flair and tempo, you have misunderstood.

I never would have signed Young and I was lukewarm about Valencia, neither of which have really cut it for me no, though I do like valencia as a right back....but how you say they are in the same category as Valencia and Young when the two players were totally different types of player when we signed them?

I would totally agree with your last paragraph. Since Ferguson retired we hired totally the wrong manager in MOyes again in LVG and we hired Mourinho in a sense of desperation due to his success. No, I wouldnt have hired Mourinho. I actually like him and think he is a top manager, he isnt the right manaer for us though. And by the same token with those three managers we have spent a shed load of money, mainly badly.

So to summarise in the hope you understand whether you agree or not I think we have the wrong manager, are signing on the whole the wrong players so far which we didnt do last summer, it gave me hope Mourinho was going to manage the club the right way a lot of fans would like to see us play but and generally we are still playing a style of football that hasnt excited me as a long time fan of the club
 
Even considering football inflation I still feel the fee is too much for a player like Lukaku when Bale and Suarez transferred for similar fees.

That was before the TV money and crazy china money, also they wasn´t sold to a premier league team big factors that have come into play with regards to transfer fees
 
Normal inflation and football inflation are two different things. The rates for football inflation are crazy.

And let's not kid ourselfs by saying RVN would be worth 28m and Rooney 38m. 18 year old Rooney and prime RVN would both cost anything from 70-90 million in today's market
Kane would cost £100m+ and an 18 year old Rooney was as exciting as Mbappe is now, so he'd cost closer to £125m imo.
 
You play to win. Jose won at Chelsea. He won a treble at Inter. Won at Porto. Won at Real. United did a complete smash and grab against Bayern to complete the treble. Matches are not always full of flair and glamour.

The landscape has changed and you have to adapt and be flexible to be successful. Arsenal and Wenger have failed to do this. Liverpool continue to have a frail defense and GK.

Best examples are Brazil and Holland. Jogo Bonito and Total Football. Haven't done shit in years. Why? Was not effective anymore. Tactics changed, talent changed, etc. Having the right balance wins. And United want winners.

What Mourinho did at Inter and Porto was incredible no doubting that. Also yes football isnt always about glamour, when we beat Barcelona at home with a Scholes screamer for example we played very defensively but the key words are "isnt always". One of the reasons the elite clubs are so popular isnt just the history and success, it is the type of football and types of players they have such as our famous "7" for example, quite apt and no coincidence we havent been very successful with that shirt number as we havent trophy wise recently. Personally I think Wenger and Arsenal have failed because he has never really replaced the defence he inherited, he hasnt signed a real top quality cb since Sol Campbell a long long time ago and just importantly since his inital signings he hasnt signed a leader either. Brazil amagingly havent had a real world star of a striker until Neymar since Ronaldhino which was fairly short lived. We have a very good keeper, an immensely talented but still not bona fide proven midfielder and a really promising cb I think in Bailly, but in all honesty I cant think of a single player in our side that would get into any of Fergies top three sides.....my point being are we wigning the right type and quality of player to get us back to where we were only 6-7 years ago success wise and do we have the right manager to take us back 6-7 years ago in terms of being an entertaining side people want to watch, Im not sure.
 
That's normal inflation. The money going into football clubs, particularly premier league clubs, and particularly ourselves, have increased many times over. I have no idea if this website is right or not, but going by it our revenue in 01/02 was £146m. Our revenue in 15/16 was £515m.

And based on those numbers, that means a Rooney fee of £90m in 2016 football money, equivalent to one Lukaku. Sounds just about right.
 
I'd take him for 40m, but I also think Real would want so much more off us than any other club :lol:
£40m would be Ok for him, but only if he accepts lower wages. He needs to step down his wage expectations or step down his playing time expectations during this WC year.