That surely cant be true - £23m is an absolute bargain for Christ sake. Ed cant be that stupid to mess this one up because of a fee like that..
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That surely cant be true - £23m is an absolute bargain for Christ sake. Ed cant be that stupid to mess this one up because of a fee like that..
Lol. As if an agent is going to say 'yeah he is going' if clubs are talking.
If we were interested, Madrid would have offered us Banezema as a Ramos replacement in the whole De Gea fiasco
Never thought i'd say this, but i actually hate Mendes more than Perez now. Slimy & conniving prick..
At the end of the day he's just doing his job. We're mugs for dealing with him so, what seems to be, willingly. He's doing what's best for his clients and rightly so couldn't give a feck about the clubs involved.
Daily. Mirror.
We might still be negotiating tbf. Of all the areas that need strengthening that's probably the least urgent.
That's one way of looking at it alright man, but another way of looking at it is - that he's a filthy leech & his only interest is his bank balance & not what's best for the player.
He's top-class at what he does of course & has so much influence - too much in fact, but that doesnt mean we should respect him. We'll just have to stomach him as best we can, because he's got his fingers in so many pies that we want a piece of.
Another knob that's on my list is Mino Riola - i think i hate that scumbag more than Mendes tbh..
On a side-note & a heads up - but have you checked this show out man: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2719448/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
It's supposed to be a good show..
So what's going to happen the? we refuse 25 million euros then suddenly accept it as the transfer window nearly closes?
It's bollocks I'm afraid, even if he sees the season out in the stands United won't accept that figure, and for me it is DDG been disrespected by Madrid in all of this, the guy needed to be able to go with dignity , this seems very unlikely now.
De Gea should not have made a deal with the devil....
It's just bad all round for everyone - except Perez of course
Good point man..
Oh, i'd say we're in the thick of negotiations alright Sully, i just feel this deal should have be sorted before now man - given the alleged bargain asking free.
The main pressing area is CB imo, but not sorting out the goals department will bite us on the arse also.
I think all at United wish we could sell players for more. Just seems to generally be a lack of interest/takers due to wages or some other reason so a lower fee ends up being accepted to get them off the wage bill.
I also think that because it's United, there's hysteria about a bad performance or a mistake which leads to this common belief the player is shite. Our own fans can be as culpable in this as others.
This idea that Jones and Smalling are useless even though we had one of the best defences in the league last year or that Rafael is shocking, Evans is a laughing stock or that Nani is useless. They would all be rated a lot higher if they played for other clubs but people love to get on the back of United players.
Agree with that man; but also that we never seem to price a player (we really dont want anymore) out of a move to his preferred club. We're good like that & seem to put the players interests ahead of our own in many cases, which is good thing the club do in said circumstances. Classy even..
FFS just meet the buy out, he is worth it.
Since when did we become cheap skates.
When a player consistently performs shite - then what other conclusion can someone come to though mate?!
Would Jones, Evans, Rafa or Nani be make the 1st team of any of the top 4 clubs?
I'd hazard a guess & say no chance man..
So if Madrid don´t pay is being disrespectful?,if you read the comments of fans in Marca, really they don´t want to pay more than 25, according to many people is a joke to pay so much with Navas in the team.
This scenario was predictable, he is not playing because is not focused, will he be focused next week?will he stay in the bench until the end of the market and then suddenly he will be professional again?
The possibility of leaving with dignity is gone weeks ago ,when United started the bluff with Ramos. Honestly ( and I say this being a fan of Navas ) I think 20/25 million + Navas would be an excellent deal.
I agree, wages are the biggest factor. In the main, when we sell players it is because they have failed either as a big name or a youth product, so the fee is always deemed low. There are a few exceptions in Beckham, Ruud, Ronaldo etc. but we got fairly decent fees for them. People forget that when we buy players it is from clubs who rarely want to sell, this doesn't happen to us that often. This is why I'm glad to see the club holding out on the De Gea situation.
DDG is one of the best keepers in the world, even if he was out of contract now, i'd happily pay him 25mil to join my team. He played a huge part in winning us vital points last season and would do the same for any club im sure. Navas may be a good goalkeeper but he isn't on the same level as the elite keepers at the moment (Neuer/Courtois/DDG).
If we're going to sell him, it's going to be a fee that we're happy with or including a player that we want.
I think that's a fair deal and would be more than happy simply because I just want the whole thing over and done with, especially after the Di Maria facre. I think United are just playing hardball and trying not to look weak, appearing to stand up to Real and also showing the players they won't be pissed around either. The trouble is the only way that works is if United stand firm and bench De Gea for the season or until he accepts he won't leave and plays accordingly, like Ronaldo did. I don't think that will happen though, I think United will have to sell.
Carvajal I like your posts - but you cannot honestly say that Madrid are not being disrespectful. And where has your figure come from? The last I heard Madrid wanted to offer £11M which is an absolute insult for a player of his quality. If it were the other way around, Madrid would have been demanding ridiculous sums irrespective of how long the player has left on his contract. You must see that this is not right. If your club don't think he's worth much, then why not leave him alone?
Of course it's disrespectful, anyone with half a brain can see he is worth more than 25 million euros, it's a pathetic bid and one United were never ever going accept, Madrid likely knew this and also knew it would unsettle him to the point that he can't be trusted play, what does that achieve for the sake of a few extra million that they can easily afford? It messes with a top players head, and breaks bonds between two top clubs, if Madrid truly value the guy then they should just be fair with him and pay a fee that would be a compromise, say 40 million euros.
Ultimately it's DDG that's suffering and Madrid are the ones causing it, United are rich enough and I suspect stubborn to bench him, or send him to the stands with no issue at all.
That scenario is fine if he had contract until 2020 for example. Although I never would understand paying more than 40 or 50 million for a GK , regardless of the length of his contract . The offer is made, if United accepts it or not before the end of the market, that's not a problem of Madrid , who have to deal with the situation of a player free in some months and supposedly not focused is United
I think you're wrong on this, United will not refuse the bid all summer long and then just sell him near the end, what message would that send out?
I personally think we will have no issue at all benching him if needed.
I would say that United never would bench him or send him to the stands.I can´t imagine that situation.
Florentino does not care about that, as happened with Ozil or Di Maria, or a legend like Iker , so I doubt that is concerned about the feelings of De Gea .
Daily Mirror, pay attention ffs.
Happy with the way our club is dealing with this. Madrid pay up or De Gae stays on the bench or he will start performing again. after buying some good players and a pre season all designed to help Van Gaal work with players and drill his philosophy, if we still end up relying on De Gae (keeper) then God help us.
I am not worried at all about the keeper situation. Van Gaal bougt a new keeper, he clearly trust him - that's good enough for me. As for Dea Gea, he deserves what's come his way - Bench.
I am not worried at all about the keeper situation. Van Gaal bougt a new keeper, he clearly trust him - that's good enough for me. As for Dea Gea, he deserves what's come his way - Bench.
25 but in euros(I read +5m in bonus). The problem with this is the exchange pound-euro. Here the club structure is different. Florentino is not the owner, he can´t do whatever he wants without explaining to the associates. For him , a player free in a year= 25/30M€, doesn´t matter if his name is De Gea or Kroos, and doesn´t matter if the opposite club helps or not. Here the public opinion has a lot to say, if Navas during the preaseason had been shit probably now Florentino would be rising the offer,besides is a GK, nobody is excited about that. I don´t imagine the associates calculating the points that he will save during the season. They want to pay for other kind of players
I don't doubt that, doesn't make it right though,
United will bench him if Madrid don't bid a fair amount, or he doesn't get his head straight, there is just no doubt about it at this stage.
It's a bit silly of Madrid really all this because if we do sell him for £25 m Euros (£17 m), then we will actually get about £10 m in real terms when you factor in his wage saving... £10 million to say up yours to Madrid, is money well spent in my book.
Evans maybe not, nor Nani because of inconsistency. They would still do a very decent job at a club just below the top tier though, yet some treat them with disrespect they would never use when talking about a player like Jagielka or Aaron Lennon who are no better than them.
Rafael was the established first choice under title winning and European cup challenging sides under Ferguson. He is a top, top class player and injuries or the fact he wasn't a perfect match for a managers style shouldn't change that as much as it has in so many peoples minds.
Jones is the easy butt of all the jokes. The fact is that statistically he was the best defender under 23 in Europe last year. Now stats don't mean everything but they should suggest he is worth more than a punchline and the age group of that study says it all. 23 years old.
I invite you to revisit this when he's played behind a good midfield for 6 months.
I am still reading, firstly in Onda Cero and now other people quoting them that Madrid will get 8m€ from United thanks to di María sale, so maybe instead 25, we will pay 33
I disagree about being in the bench during the season. I can imagine Mourinho doing that but not United
I am still reading, firstly in Onda Cero and now other people quoting them that Madrid will get 8m€ from United thanks to di María sale, so maybe instead 25, we will pay 33
I disagree about being in the bench during the season. I can imagine Mourinho doing that but not United
The main point is though that United will look weak if they just take the offer now having refused it all summer, for that reason alone he'll have to stay as things stand.
From De Gea being unveiled ( always)next week to United willing to do a deal plus Navas to illegal clauses if De Gea isn't sold, it's clear that all these great sources you keep posting about aren't that great after all.I am still reading, firstly in Onda Cero and now other people quoting them that Madrid will get 8m€ from United thanks to di María sale, so maybe instead 25, we will pay 33
I disagree about being in the bench during the season. I can imagine Mourinho doing that but not United
Articles that say what you want to say or agree with your views doesn't make them reliable.
No way Madrid get a sell on clause for Di Maria. Not a chance
The whole "Pedro must play in the super cup" seems so ridiculously arbitrary.
"Sure, we'll make it through the entire season and all of eternity without this player, but we'll not have any chance of winning this hugely unimportant super match without him on the bench so we mustn't sell him at any price before the final whistle."
"Sure, we'll make it through the entire season and all of eternity without this player, but we'll not have any chance of winning this hugely unimportant super match without him on the bench so we mustn't sell him at any price before the final whistle."
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