How generous of them to decide to actually talk to us about the player they've been tapping up for the last 6+ months.
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How generous of them to decide to actually talk to us about the player they've been tapping up for the last 6+ months.
I'd like this to happen:
De Gea to Real for £25m + agreement on player switch for RVP+£20m for Benzema
so ''we admire Sterling'' is not a comment?
It's like saying ''you're fecking ugly, but I can't comment on your appearance''.No, maybe we can focus on signing players who are nearer to their peak, from other parts of Europe [not Iberia and South America]. Odd as that may sound, Chelsea are using that model, and yeah, we can accept that other clubs are bigger, but what's the point then if you're not going to do anything about it. Do you standstill because other clubs are bigger? No. You do something about it.
so ''we admire Sterling'' is not a comment?
was about to post something similar. We cant comment right after....he comments. Rawk will be creaming themselves over this.feck off Bentiez
That would be a bit of a coup.
Pilib de Brun: As everyone knows the De Gea decision has been made, club are fully aware of his intentions & have given up trying to keep him.
Utd knew this was the most likely outcome back in January hence the Valdes signing and identifying replacements.
SkyFootball:
Real Sociedad say David Moyes is staying, and that Danny Ings not a target http://skysports.tv/flWpaw
Geoffrey Kondogbia’s agent admits Inter want his client, along with Juventus, Manchester City and Real Madrid. #MCFC http://t.co/6A9eyXyMKr
I agree with this 100%. People like to exaggerate this supposed pull of Real Madrid but it only really extends to Iberian and South American players. I am not saying they are not attractive to the rest of the world but it is not as one sided by any stretch. Liverpool never lost Gerrard to them despite them being $hIte, Chelsea did not lose Cole or Lampard and come to think of it, they never lost anyone they did not want to sell. We never lost anybody we wanted to keep to anyone either until Ronaldo and no DDG. Bayern Munich are the same, in the case of Kroos, they obviously did not try hard enough to keep him financially speaking. People were questioning Sir Alex's transfer policy but that might have been one the things he has in mind, he usually refused to buy players who idealised Real and Barcelona because he knew it reflects badly on the club when we lose them and I find this to be not only the right attitude of a big club but also a hugely beneficial one in the sense that it creates the aura and continuity that big clubs absolutely need. I am not advocating boycotting the Iberian or South American market but I think one of the criteria of our transfer targets need to be that they are not obviously using us as a stop gap. This rules out Pogba for example at the moment. As I stated before, this is not to say we should only buy players we can count on to be with us long term but it is more to do with the image of the club when it loses players it wants to keep.
Chelsea have signed quite a few Spanish and South American players recently, both young and at peak. The main issue we have with De Gea IMO is that we have finished 7th and 4th in the past 2 years. If we were serioulsy challenging for the UCL I don't think Real would have had it so easy.
The ones they sign don't have star quality. I think if De Gea was maybe German, English or French, we would have had more chance of keeping him [i know its odd, but that's my thought hehe]. Ronaldo left after a successful CL campaign, we came second I think, and we were genuinely a force back then. Being competitive helps I know, so does signing players of certain nationality and age. As an example, I feel confident that Chelsea can keep Hazard for very long.
Regarding transfers too, we also need to start using the media like a modern club. The way we use the media is so childish and meek, stop being the nice guys ffs! Football is not a popularity contest.
In a couple of years, if Chelsea don't win the UCL Hazard will be a Real/Barca/Bayern player
You are right about their players star quality though, but if we want to stop our players going to Real or Barca then we have to build a better team (hard to do that though of course)
E.g Henry (is French) and he went to Barcelona.
EDIT: Even if Chelsea do win the UCL, they have to build a team that will truely dominate/compete consistently or Hazard will be taken away
Henry was already past his best when he went to Barca. I'm not saying they will never move to Spain, am saying they'll spend their peak years here, Hazard is 24, I see him at Chelsea for the next 4 or 5 years at the very least, meaning he'll spend his peak years in England.
I like the idea of forcing a swap deal with someone they don't want to lose. They're getting too used to getting it all their own way.
Last I heard he was being linked with Spurs.
We'll see on that one, I can see him moving if Real/Barca start flirting with him in the next 2/3 seasons
EDIT: I do agree that nationality etc of latin/iberian players mean they will prefer those teams. However the fact they are also teams who dominate and are expected to win the UCL is the biggest factor. They are know to be in the top3 teams on the planet with Bayern.
If we want to keep our best players Iberian or not, we need to improve and sharpish.
I seriously believe De Gea would have signed a new contract had we been competitive in the league and UCL
That would be the best most luxurious cushion in the world, swapping a key player yes, but gaining a top player for a position we are in desperate need of filling with no standout targets out there to fill it.
Shame it's a load of rubbish, RM need him too who would they replace him with and for what cost?
Best we can hope for is Carvajal, or Navas realistically .
Real Madrid doesnt dominate tho, and their recent record of CL wins is average compared to the rest of us
Isn't it being muted that Bale will get a more central role? Would be a bit of a coup to get Benzema & do us no harm in being taken seriously in the minds of other top targets.
Compare wins to at least semi final appearances... They are always one of the favourties to win.
I was going to say this. Real Madrid do NOT dominate at al, it's a myth. How many CL for the past 15 yrs, how many league titles? CR7 won more with us than he has done there.
I had my meltdown when we signed Valdes.
We, Chelsea, Barca & Bayern all have more semi and final appearances than them in the past 10 yrs.
Yes ok, but these things are relative, compared to our current situation how do you sell that to a player who is being courted by them.
When in the last 5 years they have either won it or got to at least the semi final? Compared to us not even playing in it this season? Also I imagine their superstar signings also have great pull.
When you become one of the best in the world in your position (as De Gea has now) you want to play with the best players.
He's a GK, and is 24 and has like 10 yrs more, we finished 7th, promised to come back to CL places and we did it, he knows we have money, knows we'll be active again this summer, knows we have a world class manager now, I think that's how we sell it to him. Anyway, hope we're not derailing the thread
De Brun is clearly just using that logic to imply he has inside knowledge.
Can't see him staying. He won't get consistent playing time and we can't rely on his jekyll and hide injury/performance record.
Morrison was always the flashier, but not sure about the star part. I remember watching Pogba play and feeling that he wouldn't have been out of place in the first team -- can't recall ever feeling that about Morrison, despite his obvious talent.
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