Transfer Tweets - Summer 2015 | Stop Spamming - Discussion Should Relate to Tweets

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So some Madrid fan club guy has a selfie taken with the club president and posted a few lines about transfers and some here are afraid that we are going to get shafted by Madrid over ddg.. Yeah, OK.. :lol::lol:

Maybe somebody who has taken a picture with Woody can do the same and maybe the UK press can run a similar story, just for laughs.. :lol::lol:
 
J-Stander said:
I'm sure they've agreed a deal with him but they've agreed feck all with us. The Spanish press would combust if that were the case.
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If casillas leaves, madrid are 100% certain de gea is coming the other way. 100%. You need more than a personal agreement with the player to be 100% sure they will sign.

it's a circus but they won't slip up and be left with no keeper for the season.
 
3rdCarter said:
If casillas leaves, madrid are 100% certain de gea is coming the other way. 100%. You need more than a personal agreement with the player to be 100% sure they will sign.

it's a circus but they won't slip up and be left with no keeper for the season.
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Or Bernd Leno.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
The bit about atletico is completely irrelevant. You don't make rules so that atletico can get cash in early. Besides, barca could pay them now and play him in January? Again, why would that make a difference to you exactly? He's playing when the ban ends.

There's nothing farcical about the ban. Nor was there anything wrong at its inception. It's just people making a big deal out of things because they want to make deal about things.
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I called it farcical because it doesn't actually stop you from buying players , I think you are ok with this because you believe it should all be about when they can play a player while for me a transfer ban should be about them not being allowed to buy players . Again by the letter of the law Barca have done nothing wrong but I just don't think that if they were found guilty of an offence then this ban does nothing to prevent clubs to do such stuff in the future.
 


So as was reported, Enrique was the one who wanted Turan. That means it won't matter who the new Barca board is as they won't cancel the signing unless they want to sack Enrique
 
What change suddenly to be so pessimistic? Ramos situation is still complicated and Florentino had to say something positive to las peñas(the fanclub).If you lose Ramos you will get Otamendi so will be a good signing as well
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
I called it farcical because it doesn't actually stop you from buying players , I think you are ok with this because you believe it should all be about when they can play a player while for me a transfer ban should be about them not being allowed to buy players . Again by the letter of the law Barca have done nothing wrong but I just don't think that if they were found guilty of an offence then this ban does nothing to prevent clubs to do such stuff in the future.
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So you think Barcelona (or other clubs) will go on breaking the kids transfer rules since they are able to buy players but not play them for year? Come on.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
I called it farcical because it doesn't actually stop you from buying players , I think you are ok with this because you believe it should all be about when they can play a player while for me a transfer ban should be about them not being allowed to buy players . Again by the letter of the law Barca have done nothing wrong but I just don't think that if they were found guilty of an offence then this ban does nothing to prevent clubs to do such stuff in the future.
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I agree

If this is a transferban that is no punishment at all, don't see the point in this.

First of all they could get their business in order by appealing and get it deferred by a year and now they can just make signings as many as they want and the only thing they need to do is wait 6 months to register them before they can play. If that is the way it works don't use transferbans than anymore no point in whatsoever.

A real punishment would have been no transfer related business deals for incoming players. Including no payments or promises of payment to other clubs and no player is allowed to sign a new contract (contract renewals are allowed) at the club for the entire duration of the transferban. This would really be a transferban. Registering the player is just the finalising detail of the transfer but negotiating and agreeing terms + signing the contract and paying the club is just as much part of a transfer. They shouldn't call it a transfer ban, they should call it a registration ban because Barca haven't done anything but concluding transfers during their ban. The transfers are just delayed.

It is like you forbid a company from buying something but you allow them to preorder at the same time. It makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
I called it farcical because it doesn't actually stop you from buying players , I think you are ok with this because you believe it should all be about when they can play a player while for me a transfer ban should be about them not being allowed to buy players . Again by the letter of the law Barca have done nothing wrong but I just don't think that if they were found guilty of an offence then this ban does nothing to prevent clubs to do such stuff in the future.
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In Europe you can't prevent a company from hiring, a transfer ban is illegal, while a registration ban is legal and as effective.
 
It astounds me how people can't seem to grasp the transfer ban that Barcelona have and how it works.
 
I get the feeling some had too much hope on a transfer ban achieving what their teams couldn't.
 
Fergus' son said:
It astounds me how people can't seem to grasp the transfer ban that Barcelona have and how it works.
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If the entire point of the ban is to stop them buying players and it hasn't, then why have the transfer ban at all?
 
Orc said:
If the entire point of the ban is to stop them buying players and it hasn't, then why have the transfer ban at all?
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It's to stop any new signings they do make from playing until January, a significant punishment IMO.


Please tell me you understand this.
 
Orc said:
If the entire point of the ban is to stop them buying players and it hasn't, then why have the transfer ban at all?
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They are banned from registering new players until 2016. Even if they sign Turan, or anyone else, they can't use him in a game until 2016. The ban is doing exactly as intended, stopping Barca from improving their first team during the duration of the ban. Pretty simple stuff.
 
Orc said:
If the entire point of the ban is to stop them buying players and it hasn't, then why have the transfer ban at all?
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The entire point of ''buying'' a player is to use him immediately. The ban doesn't allow Barcelona to do so. It doesn't really matter if they're signing players now or not when they can't use their new signings until January. Arda is basically a January signing - when their ban ends.
 
Fergus' son said:
It's to stop any new signings they do make from playing until January, a significant punishment IMO.


Please tell me you understand this.
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I understand it alright. And it's a joke. Just like the slap on the wrist City and PSG got for breaching FFP.
 
Fergus' son said:
It's to stop any new signings they do make from playing until January, a significant punishment IMO.


Please tell me you understand this.
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You are alluding to the fact they may not have signed X player, like Turan at all as he may have gone elsewhere if Barca couldn't register him or purchase him
 
I'm really surprised Turan would sign for Barcelona and miss out on half a season. Can't really see him being an automatic starter even after the ban.
 
Orc said:
I understand it alright. And it's a joke. Just like the slap on the wrist City and PSG got for breaching FFP.
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Without FFP fine City might have won the league lost season, as I am sure they would have tried to bring di Maria (and he would adapt better to their style of play), Fabregas and some other players.
 
Swap deals rarely happen, swap deals with star players even less.. To then top it off with Muller leaving Bayern Munchen? Yeaah right.
 
carvajal said:
What change suddenly to be so pessimistic? Ramos situation is still complicated and Florentino had to say something positive to las peñas(the fanclub).If you lose Ramos you will get Otamendi so will be a good signing as well
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Because of one very questionable tweet which I doubt anyone actually looked into to see if it had any credibility. That's literally all it takes for the hysteria to set back in for some :lol:
 
I think it's pretty clear now that United will struggle to get bargains out of anyone,everyone knows that we have a lot of money and that we are prone to paying up once we like a player so everyone is going to milk us
 
Fergus' son said:
It's to stop any new signings they do make from playing until January, a significant punishment IMO.


Please tell me you understand this.
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It's essentially to ensure that they are punished for inappropriate dealings in the transfer of a few youth players. This they did by impose a transfer ban which in effect should have been that they can do no transfer related activity.

Joke 1- on the pretext of appeal. They appealed in April 2014 but the decision came way after September ? (December if I remember right). They literally got a freebie summer where they were allowed to buy players that they want.

Joke 2 - a loophole which apparently states that all they are banned is from registration of new players with then till jan 2015, the intention of which seems prime facie to be that they shouldn't be involved in any agreements with clubs or players during that period. But now it's almost like every other transfer window for them. They keep negotiating players, attempt to buy pogba and the likes.

Maybe you agree with this 'punishment' but it doesn't seem right at all. It's like if United got a stadium ban for the next 3 European games (which happened to be CL round of 16 , QF and SF)where they have to play at OT without any supporters. Now they get a loophole whereby they could rent another stadium like Wembley for those games and as no ban is there for them to play at Wembley with supporters they do that and win the CL. They then follow the ban by playing behind closed doors for group stage games of the next year. Technically what they did is right but can you say that the punishment was served?
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
I think it's pretty clear now that United will struggle to get bargains out of anyone,everyone knows that we have a lot of money and that we are prone to paying up once we like a player so everyone is going to milk us
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This is why you buy when you're on top.
 
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