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Who the feck are cope and what does it mean when they're "90%" sure? How have they quantified their belief that Vidal will sign for Arsenal at 90%?

"With almost complete certainty" i.e. "Vidal will probably definitely be an Arsenal player".

What a load of feck all.
 
Who the feck are cope and what does it mean when they're "90%" sure? How have they quantified their belief that Vidal will sign for Arsenal at 90%?

"With almost complete certainty" i.e. "Vidal will probably definitely be an Arsenal player".

What a load of feck all.
Seen the rumour on Twitter a few times then plucked a figure out their arse.
 
Why are Arsenal going for Vidal when they're absolutely stacked with midfielders who can't play the holding role they actually need.

Don't get me wrong, Vidal is obviously a top class player, but unless they're getting rid of someone, or planning on playing someone as a no.6, it makes little sense.

City are in the shit in regards to homegrown players, but for the quoted price it surprises me they aren't cutting their losses on the useless Brazilians and going for someone like Vidal.
 


Bad move, Rekik has the physicality and vision but his feet still let him down to often, I think that step is too high. I feel that if this happens he will warm the bench like Alderweireld who was imo much better when he left Ajax.
 
But why is that? Do you not see him scoring over 20 goals if played up top consistently? He got 14 I think last season having played everywhere. Bayern and Chelsea have only recently won trophies having had no one reaching the 30 goal mark so I don't see why we can't win a trophy with Rooney. As for attacking midfielders, I meant more like wingers who can operate through the middle like Bale, Ronaldo, Neymar ... . I don't think anyone's available at the moment but as far as I am concerned, that is the attacking position where we should spend if the right player is available.

It's not about goal tally, if you look at players like Charlie Austin they could probably bag the 20 goal figure in our team, but Rooney goes missing for lengthy patches most seasons and doesn't offer enough game winning quality anymore to turn the vital matches in the way Aguero or Costa do IMO. As for the winger option, well Memphis is supposed to be in that mold, but with Di Maria on the other side we wont get many goals as that's not his forte, to me the player to go for in that role would be Fekir.
 
It's not about goal tally, if you look at players like Charlie Austin they could probably bag the 20 goal figure in our team, but Rooney goes missing for lengthy patches most seasons and doesn't offer enough game winning quality anymore to turn the vital matches in the way Aguero or Costa do IMO. As for the winger option, well Memphis is supposed to be in that mold, but with Di Maria on the other side we wont get many goals as that's not his forte, to me the player to go for in that role would be Fekir.
That's a fair point about his game changing abilities but I do believe that this has been mainly the case due to the constant shifting and moving he has to go through each season. Of course that cannot be proven but I cannot see why with the right service, he would not display more authority on games. The other point is that it is not necessarily that this game changing ability comes from the main striker. You just need someone who has that quality of creating something out of nothing. The way I see it is to either give Depay, Di Maria, and maybe Januzaj a chance to show that next season or go for the established talent like a Bale or Reus. Since those two do not seem to be available, I say we might as well still with what we have instead of simply adding even more players who are not necessarily an obvious upgrade.
 
Of his 14 goals, how many did he score playing as striker? 4-5 goals in 15 games or something?
 
Who the feck are cope and what does it mean when they're "90%" sure? How have they quantified their belief that Vidal will sign for Arsenal at 90%?

"With almost complete certainty" i.e. "Vidal will probably definitely be an Arsenal player".

What a load of feck all.
First ones to call Thiago to Bayern when all the talk was about him joining United.

The percentage is just an arbitrary number.
 


Would explain why the Coleman links surfaced today.


What's up with those Latin players saying no to United (not saying explicitly about Fabinho, but rather about the others), but say yes to City? Both clubs are only located a few kilometers apart. :rolleyes: :wenger:
 
What's up with those Latin players saying no to United (not saying explicitly about Fabinho, but rather about the others), but say yes to City? Both clubs are only located a few kilometers apart. :rolleyes: :wenger:
I am not sure if that's a thing but in case it is, I suspect it might have something to do with City's Spanish directors of football. I can imagine they've got few contacts with the Iberian and South American based players.
 
That's a fair point about his game changing abilities but I do believe that this has been mainly the case due to the constant shifting and moving he has to go through each season. Of course that cannot be proven but I cannot see why with the right service, he would not display more authority on games. The other point is that it is not necessarily that this game changing ability comes from the main striker. You just need someone who has that quality of creating something out of nothing. The way I see it is to either give Depay, Di Maria, and maybe Januzaj a chance to show that next season or go for the established talent like a Bale or Reus. Since those two do not seem to be available, I say we might as well still with what we have instead of simply adding even more players who are not necessarily an obvious upgrade.

He does move position a lot that is true but I think that is partly because he seems to dry up in a position after a few games and managers move him deeper or the reverse depending on where he's been playing, to try and spark him back to life. Like last season, the first 3 or 4 games as a #9 he seemed revitalized and full of energy, but then he looked bored and weary of the on rails style LvG demands from his #9. I also don't think his hold-up play or link play is all that great for a lone striker role, those wide men that shine are benefited by their #9's, Lewandowski with Reus and both Ronaldo and Bale with Benzema. Of Di Maria, Januzaj and Memphis only that latter has shown any real knack for being a goal scorer and in fairness he will probably need a season to settle fully in, but even then you still need more from the #9 IMO, think Aguero/Silva and Costa/Hazard at the two top clubs in the PL right now, you need two game changers I feel.
 
Fecking hell Arsenal with Vidal and Cech could actually win the title next season.

Meh, Vidal hasn't looked particularly good to me since the knee problems. Arsenal need a 6, not an 8. Vidal almost plays as a 10 for Juve. Looked like a headless chicken whenever I've watched him last season. Not doubting his historical quality, but on current form, he's barely an upgrade on Ramsey or Wilshere.
 
He didn't said that Schneiderlin would sign for Arsenal, he said that it was his favorite destination, I don't know why he felt the need to write that tweet, though. Apparently, Wenger refuses to deal with his agent because he dislikes him, he had problems with him about Gervinho.

I'm just gossiping I have no proof.

He's had to write that tweet because fans, generally, read something and turn it into what they want. Many have probably turned it into Schneiderlin is joining Arsenal when he actually said Schneiderlin wants to go there. Even if we sign Schneiderlin it doesn't make Auclair wrong, but that's not how the average fan will see it.
 
Why are Arsenal going for Vidal when they're absolutely stacked with midfielders who can't play the holding role they actually need.

Don't get me wrong, Vidal is obviously a top class player, but unless they're getting rid of someone, or planning on playing someone as a no.6, it makes little sense.

City are in the shit in regards to homegrown players, but for the quoted price it surprises me they aren't cutting their losses on the useless Brazilians and going for someone like Vidal.

They are not stacked. They have Coquelin. Arteta and Flamini are finished and if they have to rely on those two for any period of time they are in trouble. Vidal would be perfect for them. Coquelin will be their first choice holding midfielder with Vidal further forward probably alongside Cazorla. When Coquelin is suspended, Vidal could also do the role. They don't need a pure holding midfielder as that would stifle Coquelin who, I think, has done enough to deserve to stay there. What the arrival of another central midfielder would all mean for Wilshere, in the main, I don't know. I think he'll leave for City if Vidal arrives. After all his talk of wanting to feel wanted, signing Vidal is not great.
 
They are not stacked. They have Coquelin. Arteta and Flamini are finished and if they have to rely on those two for any period of time they are in trouble. Vidal would be perfect for them. Coquelin will be their first choice holding midfielder with Vidal further forward probably alongside Cazorla. When Coquelin is suspended, Vidal could also do the role. They don't need a pure holding midfielder as that would stifle Coquelin who, I think, has done enough to deserve to stay there. What the arrival of another central midfielder would all mean for Wilshere, in the main, I don't know. I think he'll leave for City if Vidal arrives. After all his talk of wanting to feel wanted, signing Vidal is not great.

So where do Ramsey and Ozil fit into all this?
 
So where do Ramsey and Ozil fit into all this?

Ramsey will be benched. If he plays 4141, Ozil and Sanchez will play wide. At the moment, Walcott and Giroud will fight for striker position. Welbeck and Ox also on the bench. If he plays 4231 - Coquelin and Cazorla continue to hold, Vidal plays in middle three with Sanchez one side and Ozil the other behind main striker.
 
Putting Ramsey on the bench? Hmm, that doesn't seem right. I think what Arsenal need is some competition to Coquelin, Vidal isn't that player.
 
They are not stacked. They have Coquelin. Arteta and Flamini are finished and if they have to rely on those two for any period of time they are in trouble. Vidal would be perfect for them. Coquelin will be their first choice holding midfielder with Vidal further forward probably alongside Cazorla. When Coquelin is suspended, Vidal could also do the role. They don't need a pure holding midfielder as that would stifle Coquelin who, I think, has done enough to deserve to stay there. What the arrival of another central midfielder would all mean for Wilshere, in the main, I don't know. I think he'll leave for City if Vidal arrives. After all his talk of wanting to feel wanted, signing Vidal is not great.
The only type of player they need is a proper DM/holding player. Like I said, Vidal is obviously a quality player but he's not a proper holding midfielder. He neither has the positional discipline or the passing range. You wouldn't have him in Carricks place would you? He'd be in a midfield with him.
 
Ramsey will be benched. If he plays 4141, Ozil and Sanchez will play wide. At the moment, Walcott and Giroud will fight for striker position. Welbeck and Ox also on the bench. If he plays 4231 - Coquelin and Cazorla continue to hold, Vidal plays in middle three with Sanchez one side and Ozil the other behind main striker.
In my opinion, Ramsey is their best player other than Sanchez.
 
Heading to London for a few hours. When I get back, I'm hoping this is pretty much all wrapped up!
 
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