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Gutted about Cech going arsenal to be honest. He's the only one id really trust to bring in when DDG leaves as I can't see us getting Lloris. Arsenal will be big contenders next season.
 
My surname is Lennon and my first name is Niall, hence LennonNL (my initials at the end). Devastated though because it definitely looks like a Spurs kind of username now :lol:

Might have to make my location "definitely NOT North London"

Edit: although, I don't know many Spurs fans who see Aaron Lennon as their favourite player! Especially as far as to have their username after him

That tagline :lol:
 
Poor @LennonNL

Getting called a Spurs fanatic is not nice at all, I feel for you!
My post count is going to double due to explaining to people I am in fact not a Spurs fan.

They should've made it Aaron Lennon fanatic at least!
 
Or you could turn into the Caf's resident level headed Spurs fan. We could definitely do with one after all the antics of Glaston.
Alright I can play that role. I may be completely hateful towards Spurs and Levy but sure I'll give it a go :nervous:
 
Cech would never have fitted into LVG's passing style. I don't get what's so hard about that to understand.

LVG likes keepers to be very good with the ball at their feet. See Valdes/VDS/De Gea/Cillesson. Cech is very very average in that department.

Between VDS and DDG, how many goalkeepers who played under Van Gaal can be regarded as part of the cream of the crop? How many times did his decisions regarding goalkeepers ended up in lost points more than winning matches? He lost his previous club job at Bayern because of a stupid stance over a matter of goalkeepers.

I dont get this 'I'd rather have a great shot stopper then great passer' kind of attitude that keeps being mentioned. Why not have both? And we do. We have Valdes. He's a great shot stopper and great with his feet.

There are 3 reasons:
  1. A goalkeeper's job in the action is 95% about shot stopping and controlling his own penalty area. Being good with his feet is only worth a mere 5%, so you can see why people are extremely baffled at Van Gaal giving huge importance to something that is nowhere near being a goalkeeper's primary task.
  2. Although we don't always say it explicitly, many people here (including myself) DO NOT TRUST SHORT GOALKEEPERS. Valdes will be playing in the toughest and physically demanding football league in the world if he becomes our regular starter, so his 6'0" frame will get battered in every match and that means United will allow silly goals that we shouldn't concede. I have a total distrust towards short goalkeepers since we had Barthez.
  3. Van Gaal knows feck all about goalkeepers. Furthermore, his opposition to Neuer's signing ended up costing his job at Bayern to some extent alongside a number of other factors. Finally, Van Gaal was proven absolutely wrong when Neuer ended up becoming the top goalkeeper in the world and won it all since.

What infuriates me about Cech going to Arsenal is that we didn't put a better fight to prevent Arsenal from adding the final piece they were missing in the puzzle in order to become serious contenders. Meanwhile, we might lose one of the best goalkeepers in the world and our remaining contingency plans plain suck.
 


Decent signing that.


Inter need to stop signing older players, though, and just focus on the future. I guess this kind of signing could help them sneak 3rd next year and get back in the CL and make it easier to sign good players, but 15 Million euros is a decent whack of cash for a guy turning 31 as the season starts.
 
What infuriates me about Cech going to Arsenal is that we didn't put a better fight to prevent Arsenal from adding the final piece they were missing in the puzzle in order to become serious contenders. Meanwhile, we might lose one of the best goalkeepers in the world and our remaining contingency plans plain suck.

I think the @Balu explained this and LVG wasn't actually against Neuer because he didn't rate him, but he was upset about how it was done, or something like that? Maybe I am wrong....
 
Between VDS and DDG, how many goalkeepers who played under Van Gaal can be regarded as part of the cream of the crop? How many times did his decisions regarding goalkeepers ended up in lost points more than winning matches? He lost his previous club job at Bayern because of a stupid stance over a matter of goalkeepers.



There are 3 reasons:
  1. A goalkeeper's job in the action is 95% about shot stopping and controlling his own penalty area. Being good with his feet is only worth a mere 5%, so you can see why people are extremely baffled at Van Gaal giving huge importance to something that is nowhere near being a goalkeeper's primary task.
  2. Although we don't always say it explicitly, many people here (including myself) DO NOT TRUST SHORT GOALKEEPERS. Valdes will be playing in the toughest and physically demanding football league in the world if he becomes our regular starter, so his 6'0" frame will get battered in every match and that means United will allow silly goals that we shouldn't concede. I have a total distrust towards short goalkeepers since we had Barthez.
  3. Van Gaal knows feck all about goalkeepers. Furthermore, his opposition to Neuer's signing ended up costing his job at Bayern to some extent alongside a number of other factors. Finally, Van Gaal was proven absolutely wrong when Neuer ended up becoming the top goalkeeper in the world and won it all since.

What infuriates me about Cech going to Arsenal is that we didn't put a better fight to prevent Arsenal from adding the final piece they were missing in the puzzle in order to become serious contenders. Meanwhile, we might lose one of the best goalkeepers in the world and our remaining contingency plans plain suck.
You are hugely exaggerating Van Gaal's issue with Bayern regarding the goalkeeping situation. I agree with your second point about height. It really is simply a big thing in the PL and therefore a more vital attribute compared to elsewhere. I think your first point is a bit off though. The 95% to 5% ratio you give is only applicable to lower quality teams. If you are good enough and play on the forefront, your goalkeeper should not be called into action that often. Yes it is very ambitious to reach that level and it demands a lot but that's what Van Gaal aims for and if he achieves that, we will barely concede chances to need a shot stopper. In fact even at the latter stages of last season, there was a considerable difference to how much De Gea was needed to make vital saves. This is directly related to the other point which is that a big component of reaching that level of authority and control during games is a goalkeeper that is comfortable with his feet. So one can easily argue that for that particular style of play, you need the goalkeeper's footballing attributes more than his shot stopping ones. Obviously in an ideal world, we'd want both like Van der Sar or a Neuer and the height issue and the nature and physicality of the PL make it very difficult to avoid giving away chances but the argument is not as simple as you make it out to be.
 
Cech going to Arsenal infuriates you, bla bla blah, honestly, grow up the lot of you. Is Cech the only good goalkeeper in the market? And how do you remotely have any idea that we didn't go for him, maybe he just wanted to stay in London for family reasons and as we have not sold De Gea yet, maybe Cech didn't want to hang around waiting for that to happen? I personally don't believe that LVG will choose a GK simply because he can pass the ball, most people are really overrating that particular issue, LVG is not stupid and this is his last job, I don't think he'll want to be messing around too much. If/when De Gea leaves, we will get a GK who is good enough for the club, simple.
 
Cech going to Arsenal infuriates you, bla bla blah, honestly, grow up the lot of you. Is Cech the only good goalkeeper in the market? And how do you remotely have any idea that we didn't go for him, maybe he just wanted to stay in London for family reasons and as we have not sold De Gea yet, maybe Cech didn't want to hang around waiting for that to happen? I personally don't believe that LVG will choose a GK simply because he can pass the ball, most people are really overrating that particular issue, LVG is not stupid and this is his last job, I don't think he'll want to be messing around too much. If/when De Gea leaves, we will get a GK who is good enough for the club, simple.

Well he's done so three times within the space of 2 years. He gave that as a reason why he did it too, why is he going to change his philosophy on that now?

Krul and Vorm were never given a proper chance at the Netherlands NT simply because they're shite at it. Vermeer is exactly like Valdes and Cillessen is a well rounded keeper. When Vermeer got dropped at Ajax van Gaal chose the keeper that only played about half a season at Ajax over 2 good shotstoppers from the PL. When van Gaal signed Valdes he said it was because Lindegaard didn't fit the profile unlike Valdes.

I do think he will buy a goalkeeper to replace de Gea who is good enough, because I can't see why good passers/sweepers can't also do the most important part. It won't be Cillessen.
 
Well he's done so three times within the space of 2 years. He gave that as a reason why he did it too, why is he going to change his philosophy on that now?

Krul and Vorm were never given a proper chance at the Netherlands NT simply because they're shite at it. Vermeer is exactly like Valdes and Cillessen is a well rounded keeper. When Vermeer got dropped at Ajax van Gaal chose the keeper that only played about half a season at Ajax over 2 good shotstoppers from the PL. When van Gaal signed Valdes he said it was because Lindegaard didn't fit the profile unlike Valdes.

I do think he will buy a goalkeeper to replace de Gea who is good enough, because I can't see why good passers/sweepers can't also do the most important part. It won't be Cillessen.

I know, I don't think Cillessen is worse than Vorm/Krul at shot stopping [you'll probably know better], so, being able to play was an added advantage to him. The key is to find the right balance. All, I'm saying is, he won't simply sign a shit keeper on the basis of him being good on the ball.
 
Who is this keeper then? There's a shortage of top everything on the market right now, it's not as simple as just going and getting any player for any position.
 
To replace Lindegaard as LvG didn't like him and Valdes was free. Having Valdes as our starting keeper would be suicidal.

I know he is a very overrated keeper imo because he played in that Barca team. He isn't very big and is terrible at dealing with crosses. I really don't have much confidence in a guy that has countless youtube videos highlighting his failures for a laugh.

His distribution is very good though tbf to him and his shot stopping seems top draw, But I really hope we got for the best possible replacement even if other clubs don't want to sell, we gotta be aggressive.
 
My surname is Lennon and my first name is Niall, hence LennonNL (my initials at the end). Devastated though because it definitely looks like a Spurs kind of username now :lol:

Might have to make my location "definitely NOT North London"

Edit: although, I don't know many Spurs fans who see Aaron Lennon as their favourite player! Especially as far as to have their username after him

:Lol::lol: at your tagline. Happy I played a crucial role in making this happen.
 
I know he is a very overrated keeper imo because he played in that Barca team. He isn't very big and is terrible at dealing with crosses. I really don't have much confidence in a guy that has countless youtube videos highlighting his failures for a laugh.

His distribution is very good though tbf to him and his shot stopping seems top draw, But I really hope we got for the best possible replacement even if other clubs don't want to sell, we gotta be aggressive.

Exactly, he was ideal for Barca's system and for La Liga, but in the PL a keeper needs to be strong aerially and dominant in his box, Valdes will never be that, it's not in his wheelhouse and he's not cut out for it physically.

I'd like to see us go for Leno as I think we'll find trying to get Lloris a futile task.
 
I know, I don't think Cillessen is worse than Vorm/Krul at shot stopping [you'll probably know better], so, being able to play was an added advantage to him. The key is to find the right balance. All, I'm saying is, he won't simply sign a shit keeper on the basis of him being good on the ball.

Cillessen is a good shot stopper but he wasn't better than Vorm/Krul at the time, lots of Dutch people wanted Krul in goal.

I agree though, van Gaal won't buy a sub quality keeper as he's not stupid and will know how important de Gea was. Lloris would be the expensive option as I think he would fit the profile, but van Gaal could also go for a talented young keeper. With Valdes and Hoek at the club there won't be a much better environment to learn some things for a young player while we have experienced backup. I like what I've seen from Leno.
 
For feck sake McNair just got pubes give him a fecking chance!!
Not asking him to be sold. Just don't see him making it here. Do you rate every player who has played a few games for us?
 
Luckily Cillessen has already denied rumours about Manchester United then. He's a late bloomer at 26 and this is his second season he's played at Ajax when he was benched for years before, I don't think he will leave Ajax for our bench since he signed a new contract. He wasn't even first choice for the national team, so I severly doubt van Gaal with all his funds would sign Cillessen. If he wants a Dutch goalkeeper it'll be Vermeer (again - very unlikely to happen).

I don't think Cillessen is good enough yet, but he's a very talented goalkeeper. In the last 2 years he's been mostly great, I don't know where the 'he's shit' remarks come from as those people clearly don't watch him. Penalties is his only weakness, he's very solid all-round otherwise and with goalkeepers lasting much longer I can see him having a good carreer.
I am really glad you joined us Memphis and are scouting for us on holidays, but I swear I have seen almost exactly similar posts from you in 2-3 different threads multiple times :p
 
The funny thing all the Cillessen hatred is that before the penalty shootout he made an excellent save in Extra time to make sure that the game went to pens, also I understand that Valdes isn't great at crosses but even DDG wasn't so strong in the air. DDG is much better than he was a couple of years back but even now he prefers to stay on the line rather than come out.
 
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