I like Watkins, but this would be another poor strategic call (maybe that's why ETH needs proper people around him who can push back but deliver once decision agreed). Villa are in a strong financial position - they'll be asking similar to what was reported for Hojlund and, unlike Atalanta, they won't negotiate it down anything as much nor will they accept significant chunks of it as performance-related add-ons, (which Atalanta have done for selling their up-and-coming players, previously), and good bet that any negotiation will be strung out for about two months.
Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24
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I like Watkins, but this would be another poor strategic call (maybe that's why ETH needs proper people around him who can push back but deliver once decision agreed). Villa are in a strong financial position - they'll be asking similar to what was reported for Hojlund and, unlike Atalanta, they won't negotiate it down anything as much nor will they accept significant chunks of it as performance-related add-ons, (which Atalanta have done for selling their up-and-coming players, previously), and good bet that any negotiation will be strung out for about two months.
If it’s a no risk the only player that isn’t a risk is Harry Kane. Everyone else we are been linked could go either way
RvP also had his kid at City while playing for us.
But how many academy graduates did they have in their treble winning squad? And how many started the CL final?
Watkins is good level prem striker but he is not elite and that is what we are going to need to win real silverware so why waste so much on such a player
we are fecking up because fletcher is our technical director not because his sons are at man city
Why is it a problem with Fletcher? Can you give any good reason he is not doing a good job?
But what does he do seriously not joking
Or am I .
They don't have one. They just bitch and moan about our recruitment team because we haven't signed anyone and it's now the 17th June.
There are people on here who will never like Murtough because he doesn't have a name like Monchi, without ever thinking about why Monchi only had any success at Seville, lasted a month at Roma, and now works for Villa.
This forum is full of pessimistic gibbons these days.
Did you not see the list of other ex-utd players who have their kids at City?
I can honestly understand why. Their academy is the best at the moment because it draws from a bottomless pit of money. It would also make sense if you're an ex-utd player because when they're super young they'll need to prove they're good enough. At City there's less chance of them getting preferential treatment, or at least being accused of getting that.
Fletcher's kids are apparently quite good and now want to switch to Utd. Part of that is probably because they're actually Utd fans, but also the pathway into City's first team is practically nonexistent. Even goldenboy Foden is back to being a bench player.
This is something happening a lot with City's academy. Sancho, Lavia and Bynoe-Gittens are a few of the more high profile players I can think of.
What is he doing that is good? Christ we are still pleading with de gea to stay and and our transfer dealings have hardly been a masterstroke bit of business and don't see much evidence of that changing this summer
According to who?
According to him, when the exact opposite is true.
we want him to agree a new contract as #2, the offer is on the table if he wants it. We’d prefer to get him to stay so we have security if we don’t secure anyone & are left with Heaton.
Heck even here says (reading between the lines) we’re not too concerned “not a firm offer in place”
Watkins works the front line really well which would have improved us a lot in the last 6 months. However, it wouldn’t solve our goals issue and where we’re wanting to go I don’t think he’s near good enough, especially considering the inevitably high price tag.
Admittedly not an expert on Monchi, excpet through articles when he's been linked with various CL clubs in the past and obviously his Sevilla Rep, but I'd rather have Villa's recruitment system (scaled up for revenue and (our tarnished but still 'CL' level) reputation) than ours in terms of buying players who fit the system and the league (power and mobility matched with technical ability). Monchi obviously hasn't been involved in that, but Exec obviously think he works within that strategy, which is at least 'reflected credit'...
Very little evidence that our recruitment or footballing operations equivalent is doing much beyond a few reforms and trusting Ten Hag last summer (to good effect but not unequivocal success, gven FDJ chase, for which both manager and team have to be held culpable- overpaying for Antony). Before that, IMO the only decent thing we've done in recent years, aside of usual spate of youth-team purchase gambles, is take calculated gambles on Diallo and Pellistri: I don't think either have been used properly yet, and they might just end up squad players, but we should be doing more of this, identifying first-team age young players from tier-b clubs or even smaller markets rather than overpriced cast-offs, and applying this to CF and CM search.
This sounds like it's going to be a terrible window for us. Can't blame the club if Kane simply isn't realistic, no point in having another FDJ situation. Hojlund's price is suddenly double what was being reported originally, we should just break off all contact there. Kim looking like going to Bayern now really sucks, thought that one was basically done. Basically in a situation where we have to pray our scout network finds some gems by the looks of things. Quite concerned though tbh, I don't believe top 4 is assured by any means with teams around us improving.
You've missed the point entirely. The point is they get a better education and have better facilities at cities academy, which at this point is an indisputable fact they've pumped money into their academy and development. They dominate at that level for a reason.
We have a fantastic record of bringing through academy players yes, but you'd have to be incredibly naive to believe we have the best facilities and provide the best education for young players.
Ownership issues are undoubtedly making it harder than last Summer, even if ETH's had a season to assess. I'm not blackpilled enough to think we'll sign nobody, but I do think it'll be a summer of near-misses and miscalculations as we delay too long and don't sell players because we're scared of leaving selves short and in a temporarily harder bargaining-positioning, which in turn affects FFP and ability to negotiate and so on. Clubs also sense our weakness. It's knotty, almost a gordian knot, and we need clean break in order to deal with it properly, which the parasites won't allow us any time soon.Same story every summer
No, because it seems like the players we were targeting are getting further away. Kane was our biggest target and that looks like it's now impossible. Kim suddenly looks closer to Bayern. Mount will probably be done for £60m, how much he improves us I have my doubts. Hojlund seemed to be lined up as the alternative, but Atalanta are doing the exact same thing Ajax did with Antony. Because of the fees they're now asking for, it would be wise to walk away from that deal. There hasn't been any signs that we're getting closer to solving any of our problem positions. It's worrying.Terrible because we haven’t signed anyone yet?
Liverpool will improve. Newcastle are targeting some great players in Szoboszlai, Maddison and Barella. Chelsea under Poch could improve a lot and so far the players they're targetting seem wiser than most of their targets last season. We'll see if things look better in a month's time but early signs aren't good, especially with there still being no confirmation of a takeover which should have been finished months ago.
I know it's a different summer with the sale of the club going on, but it feels exactly like every summer on the Caf regardless.
I do hope we can get our preferred buyer soon. That will at least speed up the transfer window for us and kill all uncertainties.
A friend of mine made a MG joke yesterday; at least we got him if shit hits the fan.
We've seen over the years that success at youth level does not often translate into success in the first team so for me the academy consistently producing players who can make the transition, at United or elsewhere, is better.
I don't agree that they are better educated. United have a lot of youth players playing professionally and they are given a path to the first team and not seen as an investment tool like Chelsea.
United purposely play their young academy players in levels above their actual age to challenge them and prepare them for senior football.
You seem to forget that United won the Youth FA Cup recently, then that team was taken apart because the club wanted to make sure they were loaned out and played against older players.
United don't have better facilities than City, but their football education is authentic and illustrates the necessary steps to become a professional footballer whether at United or somewhere else.
The market just opened a few days ago. Last summer nobody expected us to sign Martinez and Casemiro, two of our best players this season.
We are the biggest club in the world. Most journalists want to create stories with our name because it gives them money.
Of course, we are not the best managed club around when it comes to transfers, and the takeover will only complicate things, but try to take it easy and enjoy. Being overdramatic will not help anyone.
This shit again.
The official registration period is irrelevant. Transfer activity does not start in June.
There was a poster a couple of pages back and I swear I read the exact same rant from them at this exact time last yearSame story every summer
it's crazyIt's the same story with Chelsea. Their youth academy is run for profit and as a tool to benefit them from an FFP perspective, not run for trying to get kids into thenfi at team.
No pace for PL
He simply means to say he wants guaranteed goals.
Yes that’s pretty obvious?
Not convinced it is. I think he wants to avoid players with injury history or where there is reason to question if they can make the step up.
Speaking of guarantees, I can guarantee you that if we signed Toney he'd score zero goals for the first six months of the season.
What’s any of that got to do with Fletcher?
Moussa Dembele on a free transfer and then keep working on another striker?
Foden and Lewis on the bench. Maybe Palmer as well?
I think they only had two English players too right? Grealish and Stones started and Walker was on the bench.
That’s a good bet
Not to some, judging from the posts above.
Toney's banned for like 60% of the season
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