Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24
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A truly bizarre transfer rumour.
Honestly West Ham is not really flip flopping, they've been consistent at that. The deal seems to collapse on the end of United or / and Maguire. I guess you could argue they don't want him so bad they'd add 10m£+ to their offer.
This has to be us playing poker, going all in with 7-2 off suit and hoping they fold
Oh well, would at least be better than Cuccurella, Alonso or Reguilon, all of whom are terrifying options.
And who would be absolutely unattainable. Why would Brentford sell him this late in the transfer window? And even if they do, he won't be cheap at all. We are skint as it is. The Toney rumor and this one are complete non-starters based on the single fact that they won't be cheap.
There is a reason we are being linked with those 3. They can provide immediate cover until Shaw and Malacia return and would only be loans.
Totally agreed it's a bs link there's not a chance in hell Brentford are selling their first choice left back this late in the window unless it was stupid money which we don't have as we are struggling to put together two pennies for a midfielder.
Tier 1:
As much as McTominay is maligned I do think he could do well in the right circumstances. I could imagine under Klopp for example as a hard-running energy guy he could've been effective. Similar to Wijnaldum or Milner. He is quick, strong has a good shot and is a tough tackler. Where he really struggles is in his defensive positioning and his passing which would be less important in that kind of system. It's the constant shoe-horning of McTominay into a holding role that has damaged his career.
Despite everything I'm quite surprised that Ten Hag would be willing to lose both Fred and McTominay given that they both offered more legs than our other options. If we end up with Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen, Bruno and say Amrabat/Gravenberch that feels very one-paced. Mainoo and Gravenberch are a bit more mobile than the others but one is a kid and the other isn't that strongly linked yet.
Despite everything I'm quite surprised that Ten Hag would be willing to lose both Fred and McTominay given that they both offered more legs than our other options. If we end up with Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen, Bruno and say Amrabat/Gravenberch that feels very one-paced. Mainoo and Gravenberch are a bit more mobile than the others but one is a kid and the other isn't that strongly linked yet.
I'd give them a €5m "Hargreaves discount"
Ignore the first Tweet; it comes from a journalist who's not known to be reliable. The second one has a Tier 2 source:
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Marcos Alonso is open to the idea even though his preference is to stay at Barcelona.
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Marcos Alonso is open to the idea even though his preference is to stay at Barcelona.
Would people be happy if it's a straight swap? I know I would take it. We have seen the best of McT and he's not good enough. Gravenberch is better technically and he is younger which means he has time to still improve.
Tier 1 (Tobi Altschäffl):
Two year deal for someone who is 33 in December is another Phil Jones/Eric Bailly contract situation waiting to happen. This club hust does not learn.
Henry is actually a very good player but no way they will sell him below £30 million
Sluggish start to a week when we need to sell a few and sign ideally three
Presumably all the people who were going to stop supporting United if they kept Greenwood will do the same if we sign Alonso?
Make up your minds it’s Cucurella, Alonso, or it’s Regulion it’s like somebody can’t make up there mind be decisive and get one done.
So we have 3 fit centerbacks at the moment, and one of them is Harry. I would still want the club the make a move happen for him if possible.
Our squadplanning is so funny.
Oh, we have few CBs that can stay fit for longer periods and one of them that can stay fit is looking like the lovechild of Tritus Bramble and Richard Dunne. Hmm what should we do what should we dooo, lets see, hmm, lets add another young RW with potential for absolutely insane money.
Oh we are severely lacking top quality in midfield? We have no one that can defend well, no one that can easily evade pressure and dictate play from deep, ok not good, lets see what do we dooo, i know, lets spend 60m on an attacking mid that runs alot.
Have to add that i kind of like both Mount and Antony, think they can add something to the team, and they are young so they can of course improve further, but, the money spent could have been used better imo, a lot better.
Our squadplanning is so funny.
Oh, we have few CBs that can stay fit for longer periods and one of them that can stay fit is looking like the lovechild of Tritus Bramble and Richard Dunne. Hmm what should we do what should we dooo, lets see, hmm, lets add another young RW with potential for absolutely insane money.
Oh we are severely lacking top quality in midfield? We have no one that can defend well, no one that can easily evade pressure and dictate play from deep, ok not good, lets see what do we dooo, i know, lets spend 60m on an attacking mid that runs alot.
Have to add that i kind of like both Mount and Antony, think they can add something to the team, and they are young so they can of course improve further, but, the money spent could have been used better imo, a lot better.
The two situations aren't remotely similar though. Alonso's incident was also over a decade ago while representing a different club and he was punished by the law.
I don't agree...but maybe it's the only way to get the player to move in the first place.
But I'd much rather just loan someone until January paying 100% of the players wages.
Isn't Todibo begging Nice to join us? Why are sticking on Maguire?
personally not the same but I don’t want him playing for us for more than just that reason
The Caf should enter a gymnastics team at next years olympics.
I haven't commented on the Greenwood situation at all and I don't even want to but this comment surprises me. You either want both of them play or don't want both of them to play. The incident happening a decade ago, with a different club shouldn't matter at all.
You're basically saying you are fine taking back Greenwood after 10 years? Mind boggles.
I'm joking because the tweets were in were all in disagreement with each other.
Exactly this. Neither McT or Fred were even 6’s. It’s brain dead that so many managers persisted playing them both out of position.
I didn't say that. Two different incidents, two different time periods, two different employers, two different outcomes. I just don't see the two as being comparable. Just because someone doesn't want Greenwood to return to the team as if nothing happened doesn't mean that anyone with a criminal record or a history of morally questionable actions should never play for the club.
I'd personally rather neither played for the club but I don't think the situations are similar that the same stance should be taken on both.
It kinda does tbf. Where do you draw line? Alonso literally killed someone...
Oh give it a rest ffs, this is the transfer forum, don't start dragging that shite in here, the other thread is bad enough.
So in one case new evidence emerged (and no, this wasn't the chief witness withdrawing; the statement made clear that there was significant new evidence that the public hasn't been made privy to) which was sufficiently compelling that the CPS eventually chose not to pursue a court case. In the other, evidence was examined in court relating to a crash that indisputably took place and Alonso was convicted of culpability for someone's death. Yet somehow this in itself makes the latter more 'innocent'? I'm not even against Alonso signing per se, because forgiveness and rehabilitation exist for one, but it's slightly topsy turvy. The only way they'd be in any way analogous would be the facts -of the offences having been committed and of MG being responsible for them - had been established beyond reasonable doubt and he escaped conviction on the back of a technicality.
As has been discussed previously, if people want to object to MG playing for a club, then they need to confine themselves to what has been more conclusively established and doesn't refer to the private domain (so his infidelity doesn't count, surely). Those established facts include non-criminal, but disruptive, internally penalizable behaviour, for instance training ground issues. In that case, it should be a club's responsibility to assess whether he's reformed and sought psychological/medical support where applicable to deal with MH issues, anger management, potential splDs ( there's been speculation that he has similar issues to Ravel Morrison in terms of specific developmental difficulties) etc. Unless new information relating to a Criminal case or the previous Criminal case comes up, it should be clubs not a social media jury making these decisions around what's in mutual interests.
Alonso's sentence was way too short for what he did. Absolute madness really. Don't want him at the club at all, way worse than what greenwood did.
If there was sufficient evidence of his innocence it would of been brought to the public attention so the club could keep possibly the greatest asset we have
Different cases
Each crime has its own moral or immoral value
And lastly, I wonder when people will move on, he’s gone or going (thankfully) let’s move on as well
He got in the car drunk and started driving. What do you mean not on purpose?
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