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Strange it's been deleted as The European Lad is a strong source that is often right
Only at this point? I think the penny may have dropped some weeks ago, hard to feel sorry for anybody earning millions but honestly I just feel embarrassed by this club since SAF left, I am not exonerating the previous managers we have had from any blame but it seems like we have set each up for failure one way or another
The United job ages everyone, ten Hag will look like Michael Berryman by the time he leaves.
Outspent by Arsenal and Spurs, disgraceful.
Glazers have stopped pretending they give a feck about the club.
Worst window since Fellaini.
Glazers have stopped pretending they give a feck about the club.
Worst window since Fellaini.
Red Fellaini or should be amber Fellaini?
And also, Martinez received the highest in-house accolade from Ajax when he was named last season's Player Of The Season.Edited:
Wow, first they (Ajax & Dutch Media) said Martinez is a great player and will excel at United, and they also reported Ajax were desperate to keep Martinez hence why they only would listen to big fees, now and after one bad performance, now they say they are surprised United offered such money, WTF, talk about bullshitters, just going with narrative and piling on United, unoriginal really
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Odd then to think that they were delighted to hoicke him out of the door when UTD appeared on the horizon.
He will. Brighton is usually less direct than PL average, yet Potter went out his way to target Martinez. And now it's a common knowledge as it's shown to be practical tactical sound. It's the same as DDG being targeted during corner. We then forever trapped in having to protect DDG during corner defending. The flaw is too huge to ever be eliminated, which leads to restriction on profile of signing in other position. For example, LVG still had to play Fellaini when he should have another creative midfielder to help with creativity issue.
Vidic and Evra are nothing unorthodox about their positions. Their price tag also means that they're different kind transfer to Martinez. Evra is pretty much a punt when we had 3 other players who can play LBs: Heinze (injured for the rest of the season when Evra joined), Silvestre who started most for this period, John O'Shea who previous starter in our PL winning campaign LB pre Heinze. Malacia kind of signing is more like the modern day Evra signing.
Vidic was signed when we need a quality partner for Ferdinand. Brown never developed well. Silvestre was too error prone as CB. O'Shea is squad quality at best. Heinze is not fancied as CB much by SAF for some reason unknown to the public (height, physicality???). Vidic was signed for £7mil, which is considered big fee from Russian league, but still very cheap for someone at the time was part of a famed mean Serbian defensive wall.
Why not comparing Martinez signing to Mata? Big fee, clearly a quality player but his profile compatibility with the team was questioned from very beginning. De Ligt just moved to Bayern for around 70mill euro guarantee and 10mil Euro in bonus. Do your own currency exchange, but I am pretty sure it's not that much more expensive than Martinez fee. There is certainty of expectation come with the big fee.
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This is beyond belief and at the same time entirely unsurprising. Which unfortunately is par for the course for this club at the moment.
He concerns himself in every deal. It's why every transfer in and out is a grind. We had a deal with Thiago Alcantara a couple of years ago. The player wanted the move and was willing to take a paycut. However, Joel was only willing to offer him a three year contract, not the four that Thiago wanted.
It's been hideous on our part. I struggle to think that club the size of Man Utd don't have a plan and stick to it. It just seems like we are winging it every step of the way.
100%
There's a good article in The Athletic today, on how Arsenal has been facing and dealing with issues very similar to the ones we are facing now. It emphasises how Arteta has been clear from the beginning about how things need to work, and have mercilessly pushed out expensive key players when he felt he had to (Özil, Aubameyang) - and been fully backed every step of the way. That's what brings the change. They are right, in my view.
They need to be driven out with pitchforks and torches the cnuts.
I think the club will sell Garner and bring in Rabiot, that will be it. Glazers aren't allowing club spend.
Think so too. I've just said this in another thread, but we are done as a club. At least until they are gone. They/the club can no longer afford the investment needed to not only catch up, but also challenge the top teams.
Depay is leaving for free (to Juve). Together with Antony (ajax) would have been such an improvement. For 10 mio more United could have bought Anthony instead of Martinez.
There's no money. They've taken 1.6 billion out of the club. Over 700 million of that is just interest on the debts they took on to buy the club.
Apart from the £70m deal we agreed for De Jong. The Glazers are an easy target here, but they are not responsible for the transfer mess.
Absolutely. And I know it wouldn’t happen, because he probably thinks he might somehow fix it, but it would be quite a spectacular thing if he just resigned right now stating the problems are too numerous to sort out.
I wonder if that would result in enough pressure for Glazers to go or the changes we need.
They are because they employed the people who are making the transfer choices. As soon as they didn't employ fully qualified football people we were a disaster waiting to happen, once SAF went it started spiraling out of control.
Owners are responsible for setting the culture of an organisation. Ours is rotten and defined by incompetence
This is great if everyone buys into the plan though at it does, to be fair, look like the hierarchy at Arsenal do support Arteta with.
I’m sure ten Hag would love to ship some players out but can’t as he’s have no idea who’s coming in
Doubt the Glazer's would care. Bring in Poch and carry on leeching the club.
Only time they'd sell is if the business become unprofitable for them or someone make a truly insane offer that makes sense for them to financially accept. I honestly don't think any amount of fan pressure would presuade them to sell either.
That’s why he’s a successful businessman.
But unfortunately that does not work in a football club. I understand he controls the money but he should give more free reign to the football people and only be concerned with the money.
I just wish they would look at other clubs and see what they’re doing and pump more money into the club. Do they not understand more money on players and renovating everything else = more success = more money for them?
Except he isn't, his dad was.
All the companies they inherited are doing worse, except the NFL franchise in which NFL in general had a major uplift
Shambles.
Well then, they should have better advisors! Clearly doing something wrong all around the gaff
Barcelona take out loans and sell parts of the club to buy players. Our clubs own revenue is use to service the debt that was used to buy the club. Dividends are on top that.
We have easily the worst owners of any top club. Who knows where we would have been, had we been bought out by Sky or any entity whose sole purpose was winning.
But ETH is the one who wants to wait for De Jong? Is Joel supposed to get on the blower and tell him to buy someone else instead? He can feck off with the Ronaldo bullshit though.
Absolutely unreal that anybody can seriously hold this view.
Even if you don't believe all the stories about Joel G interfering directly in transfers (Martial, Thiago, Ronaldo etc.) - who do you think is responsible for the signings (lack of sales) we've made over the past 15 years, the contracts we've offered and renewed and so on? Even if you now believe it's entirely on Murtough/Arnold, who appointed them? Who gave Woodward power?
When we sold Ronaldo and lost Tevez and replaced them with the likes of Owen and Obertan and Fergie said there was no value in the market (when we should have been buying Silva and Aguero for £30m who would have given us a decade of top level footy), who was responsible for that?
Who has allowed yet another new manager to start the season for a squad that's not fit for purpose?
Who - despite promises over the past few years - has still not appointed a genuine Director of Football?
They are 100% responsible for the transfer mess.
Is he though? Wasn't their father the successful businessman who built their empire?
It increasingly feels like they just use what he built to be their trust fund. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but if they were doing more than just keeping the lights on then United would still be winning trophies and the the stadium wouldn't be falling apart.
Agree, if EtH fails you can see the hipster narrative forming already.
It’s a good read but this time last year the pitchforks were out for Arteta and Edu. No one was singing their praises. The only way to stay ahead of the media and chopping block is to keep winning. A win against Liverpool (yeah I know wishful thinking) and the spotlight turns to them. All the nice talk about their amazing summer signings will turn into questions about Mane.
Yeah well I am interested in Margot Robbie, doesn't mean shit as she isn't interested in me.
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