Who knows. But it sure as hell won't be Martinez sat on the bench. He fits Ten Hag's team better than any of the others defenders
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Maybe we'll be re-assured when we see the first few games and see how the style of play suits who we have brought in.
But it's hard not to be slightly worried knowing that McFred are basically the midfield right now, unless Eriksen can play one of those roles. With Matic, Pogba, Lingard and Mata gone, we're into kids after that.
The front 3 are all the depth we have there too, with Ronnie seemingly hell bent on exiting.
A huge outlay on another centre back means we'll have either a 350k a week Varane or 80m Maguire benched most weeks too.
Whilst we've brought a 15m Shaw back up too, but left the much weaker right back side untouched.
I'm nervous!
But it's hard not to be slightly worried knowing that McFred are basically the midfield right now, unless Eriksen can play one of those roles. With Matic, Pogba, Lingard and Mata gone, we're into kids after that.
The front 3 are all the depth we have there too, with Ronnie seemingly hell bent on exiting.
A huge outlay on another centre back means we'll have either a 350k a week Varane or 80m Maguire benched most weeks too.
Whilst we've brought a 15m Shaw back up too, but left the much weaker right back side untouched.
I'm nervous!
This was also the summer we all agreed to back our new manager and give him time. And he want the right players in not just new players. So if we're still in need of more signings, and we are, then we can assume that the right players are not available yet.
Better wait for the right players than buy just to appease impatient doom sayers.
Some posters here need to calm down.
It could be argued we’re really backing EtH in the fact that we’re still pursuing FdJ at this point.
We’ve over a month left of the window, if it ended today it would be a terrible one but there is time to do more. A poor window can indeed lead to a poor season but let’s allow the window to close first.
Care to elaborate? Or is this valuable input from yourself based upon your distaste that my personal preference is for us to get rid of Fred? Would it be educated if I liked Fred??
Ironically uneducated comment from yourself which. Not opinion...fact.
Love the name though
Quite frankly yes, it would be a far more educated post if you appreciated Fred's performances for us as a whole over the past few years. Yet you are desperate for Salzburg to take him off our hands. Thanks for the compliment though.
Personally, I'd be intrigued to know what "not backing the manager" means, because it gets thrown out a lot but like most stock phrases doesn't seem to have a consistent meaning other than "it's all the club's fault".
I agree completely. I’ve generally been known as a negative poster [joined when OgS was in charge & never rated him] but some of the posts this Summer have been extreme.
We just paid £50+ mil on a CB from his previous club, are getting dicked about by the same club for their winger & are being made to look like absolute idiots over FdJ. Having a poor window doesn’t automatically equate to not backing the manager.
Getting him the players he wants.
Getting rid of the players he wants rid of.
Not trying to influence his team selection.
Siding with him over players.
Not signing players for marketing purposes.
Giving him time to do his job.
We've done all of this over the past 10 years. Weakened managers lead to weak teams.
I'd like to know what the people complaining would be doing differently.
If anything it could be argued we're backing the manager to an extreme level. Seems weird that people want to say we're not. Just one of those phrases that gets thrown around on here at random without much rational thought behind it.
Are you saying we are doing all these to Ten Hag?
Don't know. Like... Spend the money on positions with glaring holes in it? Get business done early enough for pre season? Things like that.
I thought I was a negative poster but some of the posts I am seeing here are ridiculous.
We had a prepared list of players we would like to sign. The manager came in and said that list is not for his football.
The club backed him but it just happens the players he wants are very very difficult to sign. The club is obviously trying. You practically heard the coach saying the other week that he wants no one but De Jong.
I ask again what would people here be doing differently?
We had a prepared list of players we would like to sign. The manager came in and said that list is not for his football.
The club backed him but it just happens the players he wants are very very difficult to sign. The club is obviously trying. You practically heard the coach saying the other week that he wants no one but De Jong.
I ask again what would people here be doing differently?
Pretty obvious we've been trying to do that though?
The world does not work like that. We can't just kidnap De Jong. Or are you saying the coub should buy players the coach isn’t interested in?
You play FM and think it’s similar to real business?
And failed yeah. Enough reason to be a bit worried no? Anyway I'm done here. Bit ridiculous the way this club is blindly defended by some on here
Well personally I don't think we should be only going for players the manager recommends. I said that a few weeks ago and the way it's panned out has just made me believe that more strongly. All the top modern clubs go with a combination of transfer targets their manager wants as well as using their scout network to bring in less well known and more affordable targets that fit the profile of player the manager wants. Antony isn't the only talented young winger in the world and unlike what some on here seem to suggest I would much prefer we go for a less sure thing (not that Antony would be a sure thing by any means himself) for a position where we are desperately in need of depth than simply go into the season with 3 recognised 1st team forwards when we will undoubtedly have some unavailable through injury for parts of the season. FDJ is harder to find an alternative for but there are still good options like Fabian Ruiz who is in the last year of his contract at Napoli or Corentin Tolisso who doesn't get much gametime at Bayern but is still a very good cm who is significantly better than our options for that deeper cm role. I think there's plenty of reason to criticise this window. I wouldn't personally say it's because the board aren't backing the manager though, I think it's due to an inept recruitment structure that has been lacking for years.
Maybe not real business if you are Man United but Liverpool and Man City have no real problems getting their main business done nice and early.
I think it’s fair to say that FdJ situation is not a easy one.
City are not having a easy deal with Cucurella?
Not really a valid comparison. City are favourites to win the league without cucurella. They don't really need him but will prob sign him or a back up anyway
We have glaring holes throughout our squad and have spent most of the super chasing one player who is more like not to sign for us in the end
There appears to have been a complete lack of planning beyond asking ten hag who he wants. To the extent where you have to question what murtough has been doing
They won’t notice City are having a tough time with Cucurella because they aren’t invested in that transfer as they are with United’s. But trust me once City sign him they’ll say “Look how easy City sorted that”.
There is no midfielder with the quality of LDJ available in the market so waiting for him makes sense. Plus we have wasted 300-400 million under Ole in last couple of years, that is bound to have an affect on club finances, we can't just fake a sponsorship or buy 50 clubs around the world like City have.
We have limited money. Comparing any club to City or Chelsea under Roman or PSG doesn't make sense. Only City and Chelsea have an army of players on loan and on their books all over the world, the common theme is that they have unlimited backing. Barcelona are trying to compete with such clubs and look what they are having to do.
We have limited money. Comparing any club to City or Chelsea under Roman or PSG doesn't make sense. Only City and Chelsea have an army of players on loan and on their books all over the world, the common theme is that they have unlimited backing. Barcelona are trying to compete with such clubs and look what they are having to do.
Well that is not making much sense. Our need for players is not actually anything to do with how easy or hard is it to negotiate players with other clubs. It’s circumstantial from player to player and club to club. Everyone would struggle with FdJ.
We can also add factors like we are not in the CL and clubs know we got money and we got some holes to fill.
In the end of the day, I think we are doing a good job without throwing to much money over not doing negotiating. Clubs who don’t negotiate and pay over the top will be hurt in the long run.
I actually think City have had a horrible window so far. Yes, they signed Haaland and Alvarez is joining.
But they’ve sold Sterling, Zinchenko, Jesus and Fernandinho has gone.
Kalvin Phillips is an expensive squad option but they still need a full back and a winger.
Haaland is obviously a special talent butin general terms they’ve gotten weaker across the squad at this point in time.
And while Liverpool needed some renewal of the front three; until Nunez hits the ground running I don’t think many would rather have Nunez over Mane.
Chelsea are having a nightmare window.
This doesn’t feel like the summer to laud our rivals business.
The transfer window isn’t even over yet and you’re complaining. This was always going to be a transition window. The CEO left. The Scouts were fired. The negotiator is stepping back. Add to that United are unwilling to pay the “United Tax”. We’ve spent close to half a billion dollars in the last 6-7 years. The time for reformation is now and diligence takes time. Only people who don’t understand corporate structures can’t see that.
Agree with a lot of this. Success or failure of the window probably will rest now on getting fdj (and even then that is out of our hands so we should be quite relaxed about it), but ultimately we have spent years getting somebody (anybody!) in and it's rarely worked out well. Eth seems to be in this for the longer term, with comments like if we can not buy the player we want (fdj) we will coach an existing player.
I much prefer that to if we can't get fdj we will buy a replacement who won't be anywhere near as good for probably not much less money to satisfy fans.
We are absolutely thin in a few areas, attack being the biggest one imo, but I am not expecting great things this season and no one else should be really. If we genuinely want to see the team coaching properly that takes times. Pep and klopp both took a while to get city and Liverpool playing great and City at least had a much much better squad than we do.
The biggest issue we have right now is Ronaldo acting the cnut.
Let me ask you two questions.
Are you comfortable with the squad as currently constructed and was this your expectation going into the summer?
Do you believe the squad as currently constructed has a good chance of getting us back into the Champions League?
What a bizarre take. Well we will see where we end up at the end of the window.
We still desperately need players and that is clear to other clubs so will make getting a decent deal much harder.
So far we have signed eriksen who is on a salary way in excess of what brentford could afford, martinez who went for £15-20m more than the original bid and malacia who was seemingly a reasonable price. Not sure there is much evidence of us having negotiated great deals
If we don't sign anyone else we don't qualify for the cl next year hence making signing the players we want next summer difficult so it's not as simple as waiting for the right player to come along. The manager also shouldn't be solely dictating the targets, he didn't do it at ajax so not clear why it is happening here. Particularly given has knowledge of different markets seems fairly limited
I can guarantee you that we have done our best negotiating. I leave it with that as you find common sense bizarre.
Well Luckhurst is on it so I get there is substance.
No more signings for us I reckon. Pathetic transfer window.
Same shite. Pay cut or go.
Try again. Poster was complaining about the price, we won’t sign him because of said price so no problem. We absolutely will sign a forward. That’s always been the plan and I believe it will happen.There are no guarantees for FDJ to come as he is willing to stay on the streets of Barcelona to play for the club. The midfield is horrendous and we have done feck all to address it.
Will be fun to see McFred getting dominated yet again for the first few games
For what my opinion is worth, I think ETH will get the best out of Martial, Sancho and Rashford. I feel they need somebody like him, disciplined and demanding to keep his foot up their backsides to keep them working hard. We will see the best of them soon.
It's a pathetic window because you 'reckon'?
Only my opinion. For me Fred is shamefully below the standard required and the united faithful are blinded by his perceived 'effort'. I believe he does more harm than good with his possession and ability to play under pressure. This doesn't count for his stats either which are largely safe or backpasses.
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