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This guy's pretty good when it comes to reporting news about Barcelona (despite working for Gol from time to time). Thanks to @Rolaholic from the Frenkie de Jong thread:


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Blood Mage said:
He'll improve our team but he won't transform it. Tchouameni would have been more of a transformative signing but I concede that we never had a shot at getting him.
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Discredits speculative statement by providing another speculative statement it can only be the transfer thread!
 
Tom Van Persie said:
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Weird move for Strakosha if true unless Raya is suddenly off somewhere.

Going to PL relegation fodder (I like Brentford but they'll be in a battle this season for sure) to be a backup again in the prime of his career? Odd choice.

He would genuinely have a better chance at displacing De Gea at United I think as well. Then again maybe that was all paper talk and United were never interested in the first place.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Weird move for Strakosha if true unless Raya is suddenly off somewhere.

Going to PL relegation fodder (I like Brentford but they'll be in a battle this season for sure) to be a backup again in the prime of his career? Odd choice.

He would genuinely have a better chance at displacing De Gea at United I think as well. Then again maybe that was all paper talk and United were never interested in the first place.
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Hmm the entire forum thinks any keeper would have a good chance displacing DDG yet none of the managers seem to think so. Makes you wonder….

Like I’m sorry but if you think whoever the hell this guy is, is better than DDG, then I don’t know how to help you.
 
Devil_forever said:
Liverpool for £17m for Neco Williams with what 20 championship matches? Compared to Pereira's experience? Lord know how Liverpool do it tbh.
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Yes but we will get £20 million more when he is sold to Real for £100 million in a couple of years :)
 
Anyone know if it is 20% of a future sale, or 20% profit on a future sale?
 
goalscholes said:
Anyone know if it is 20% of a future sale, or 20% profit on a future sale?
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Devil_forever said:
It’s usually profit on future sale. So 20% of anything above what they paid for him.
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On the contrary, the sell-on clause typically applies on the gross earnings of a sale, not the net earnings, unless there's a special clause that's inserted into the deal. In this case, such a clause hasn't been reported, so we'll be getting 20% of the total transfer fee instead of 20% of the profits. Of course, this does mean that certain clubs only sell if they themselves can get a profit after giving up 20% of the total proceeds.
 
mazhar13 said:
On the contrary, the sell-on clause typically applies on the gross earnings of a sale, not the net earnings, unless there's a special clause that's inserted into the deal. In this case, such a clause hasn't been reported, so we'll be getting 20% of the total transfer fee instead of 20% of the profits. Of course, this does mean that certain clubs only sell if they themselves can get a profit after giving up 20% of the total proceeds.
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Link to this please? When they leaked the agreement between United and Monaco for Martial, it stipulates that if Martial is sold, then Monaco get a portion of the amount above how much United had paid for him at that point (inclusive of add ons).

Which makes more sense too than 20% gross.
 
Devil_forever said:
Link to this please? When they leaked the agreement between United and Monaco for Martial, it stipulates that if Martial is sold, then Monaco get a portion of the amount above how much United had paid for him at that point (inclusive of add ons).

Which makes more sense too than 20% gross.
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Martial's deal was a special case. Another example of that is Sterling's sale from Liverpool to City, which bagged QPR a minimum of £7.8m based on the profits. However, here's how two researchers have defined the sell-on clause in their paper:
In its most common use, the sell-on clause is inserted in transfer contracts between two clubs, whereby the selling club, against a lower immediate transfer fee, retains the right to a certain percentage of a potential future transfer fee of the player to a third club.
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This is how it was applied in John Stones's transfer to Manchester City from Everton as well as Adam Lallana's transfer from Southampton to Liverpool. This is also the case with Davide Frattesi as Roma are trying to sign him; he was a part of their youth academy, and they sold him to Sassuolo with a 30% sell-on clause. That sell-on clause means that they'll now get a 30% discount on their deal, hence why they're struggling to come up with a good deal to tempt Sassuolo.
 
Acrobat7 said:
I simply want somebody to buy him so that I do not have to fear that he pops up at my club.
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Honestly, given our situation, I wouldn't mind him. I've always liked watching him play, and I'm hoping that he can develop and refine his game further at a better club.
 
NewYorkRed said:
Hmm the entire forum thinks any keeper would have a good chance displacing DDG yet none of the managers seem to think so. Makes you wonder….

Like I’m sorry but if you think whoever the hell this guy is, is better than DDG, then I don’t know how to help you.
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I'm not saying he's better. But stylistically he is way more suited to an ETH system because he's an excellent distributor of the ball. He signed a 37 year old keeper for Ajax last year to deputize for the suspended Onana just because he recognized he needed a GK who can play out from the back.

I expect DDG to start the season of course and deservedly so. But I wouldn't be surprised if he reverted back to his poor form of the previous couple of seasons and made errors. If that happens - combined with the fact De Gea isn't good with the ball at his feet - I could then see a change in #1.

I don't really forsee that at Brentford, as Raya has proven to be a good quality GK and consistent for them over the past couple of seasons, and also is as good with the ball at his feet as Strakosha is.

He isn't better than De Gea, he simply provides a different stylistic option that ETH may prefer - particularly if De Gea is in poor form. He is likely a backup at either club, but I believe he would at least have more of a chance at United based on the above.

Since he would also be at a much bigger club competing for European football and presumably getting paid more than he would at Brentford to and likely be in the same if not a slightly better position, I do find it a bit of an odd move.
 
would love an Austrian player at United. But as somebody who follows Stuttgart closely, I feel clubs like United are too big for Kalajdzic. His plateau is probably a club like West Ham.
 
Infestissumam said:
would love an Austrian player at United. But as somebody who follows Stuttgart closely, I feel clubs like United are too big for Kalajdzic. His plateau is probably a club like West Ham.
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Yeah, would agree with that. Besides, don't sign VfB players ffs.

Rather him than Brobbey, I suppose
 
hellhunter said:
Yeah, would agree with that. Besides, don't sign VfB players ffs.

Rather him than Brobbey, I suppose
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Me too, but deary me, what an underwhelming set of (reported) options for a club of our calibre.

That said, if it happens I'm sure Ten Hag would know how to get the best out of him. After all, it seems like this type of striker is important for his style of play (eg Haller).
 
Scorpy said:
Me too, but deary me, what an underwhelming set of (reported) options for a club of our calibre.

That said, if it happens I'm sure Ten Hag would know how to get the best out of him. After all, it seems like this type of striker is important for his style of play (eg Haller).
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just watched his YouTube reel from last season and he’s very similar to Darwin Nunez in style. Perhaps not as cute a finisher but in much of his play.
 
Kalajdzic at least looks a half decent first touch unlike a certain Mr Brobbey

But still just a punt on potential, wouldnt pay more than £15m or so.
 
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