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Feed Me said:
So at best we are breaking even on a proven goal scorer at a good age with three years left on his deal

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Happens to the best, Barca are struggling to shift coutinho for a knockdown price of 80 odd million
 
Jorge Mendes was in Manchester this morning. A friend stayed at the Lowry and took a pic with him at breakfast. I'm hoping it's something to do with Fernandes??

Has he any other reason/player to be in Manchester for? Cancelo?

Yep just checked and Cancelo is a client of his. We'd be stupid to not get Fernandes in at this point. An actual footballer that may want to sign for us and play in the Premier League.
 
Berbaclass said:
There is a tax relief for foreigners coming into Italy. Like the Beckham rule in Spain I think
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Which we don't yet know whether players coming to Italy now will fall under. At the moment it's the normal tax rate, so €9m net becomes around 18 gross
 
MrSingh2002 said:
Jorge Mendes was in Manchester this morning. A friend stayed at the Lowry and took a pic with him at breakfast. I'm hoping it's something to do with Fernandes??

Has he any other reason/player to be in Manchester for? Cancelo?
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Would explain why we were so eager to get the Inter Lukaku deal done today. 70m should be enough. We can challenge for top four with another midfielder.
 
giorno said:
Which we don't yet know whether players coming to Italy now will fall under. At the moment it's the normal tax rate, so €9m net becomes around 18 gross
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I thought the whole point was that it did apply to players now like Ramsey, De Ligt etc.

Edit: Ah yes January supposedly!

Under the new tax law players who move to Italy from abroad will be given a tax exemption covering 50% of their salaries, meaning a player earning €10M euros would only be taxed on €5M. That would give a tax bill of around €2.15M at the top rate of 43%, which is an effective rate of 21.5% (compared to 45% in Spain or the UK). Given that players almost always receive their salaries net of tax, that is the club pays both the salary and the tax, this new regime makes it far cheaper for Italian clubs to bring in foreign players.

The original proposal for the law set out an exemption of 70% of the income, with that being increased to 90% if the incoming individual moved to one of the southern 'deprived' regions of the country, however the final approved law saw these dramatic exemptions reduced to 50%.

Players need to agree to a two year minimum contract
Incoming players and coaches who wish to take advantage of the law will need to agree to stay for a minimum of 24 months. Furthermore they can only take advantage of the new tax regime if they pay a further 0.5% of their taxable income to the state, with this money being used to invest in training.

What is yet to be decided is when the law will come into effect. In principle it is expected that it will apply to income as of January, meaning that players who sign this summer will be subject to normal tax for six months, before moving onto the reduced rates in 2020.

The new law has given a clear impetus to the transfer market in Italy this summer, with more activity than in recent years, and rumours over signing major names such as Pogba, de Ligt, Lukaku and James Rodríguez whose salaries have all become a lot cheaper.

One other thing to note is that the regime applies to Italian nationals who have lived outside the country for two years, provided they meet a series of requirements. Alas for Buffon, he's only been away for one year...
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The 300k a week will be gross not net.
 
MrSingh2002 said:
Jorge Mendes was in Manchester this morning. A friend stayed at the Lowry and took a pic with him at breakfast. I'm hoping it's something to do with Fernandes??

Has he any other reason/player to be in Manchester for? Cancelo?

Yep just checked and Cancelo is a client of his. We'd be stupid to not get Fernandes in at this point. An actual footballer that may want to sign for us and play in the Premier League.
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Final bits of De Gea's contract to sort out, too.
 
MrSingh2002 said:
Jorge Mendes was in Manchester this morning. A friend stayed at the Lowry and took a pic with him at breakfast. I'm hoping it's something to do with Fernandes??

Has he any other reason/player to be in Manchester for? Cancelo?

Yep just checked and Cancelo is a client of his. We'd be stupid to not get Fernandes in at this point. An actual footballer that may want to sign for us and play in the Premier League.
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Judging from his post earlier,more likely that it was to finally Dave's new deal tbh.
 
simonhch said:
Had a worse career here, but he was a better player. If that makes sense. In the context of his career, he is much better than Lukaku. But he's the only one who we can make a claim for.
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Yeh, but in all honesty, i still quite rate Lukaku. Not here, but I’m sure away from England he’ll rip it up against the lower teams. A few important goals against the top teams. For Belgium he’s prolific and for us he had some important moments (goal inside the first few minutes away to PSG is the only example i can think of haha).
 
Berbaclass said:
I thought the whole point was that it did apply to players now like Ramsey, De Ligt etc.
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Well no, the whole point was to attract top scientists, researchers, economists, etc to help the country's economy grow. Sportsmen fell into it as a side effect. They even changed it so that sportsmen get a lesser break from the rest
 
Time to do some magic around the repenting Dybala to use him as the new 10 Ed, don’t mess this up. This message will self destruct in 24h!
 
giorno said:
Well no, the whole point was to attract top scientists, researchers, economists, etc to help the country's economy grow. Sportsmen fell into it as a side effect. They even changed it so that sportsmen get a lesser break from the rest
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How many years you said? I may ask my company to send me to Italy for a couple of years then! :D
 
Gasolin said:
How many years you said? I may ask my company to send me to Italy for a couple of years then! :D
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Under the new tax law players who move to Italy from abroad will be given a tax exemption covering 50% of their salaries, meaning a player earning €10M euros would only be taxed on €5M. That would give a tax bill of around €2.15M at the top rate of 43%, which is an effective rate of 21.5% (compared to 45% in Spain or the UK). Given that players almost always receive their salaries net of tax, that is the club pays both the salary and the tax, this new regime makes it far cheaper for Italian clubs to bring in foreign players.

The original proposal for the law set out an exemption of 70% of the income, with that being increased to 90% if the incoming individual moved to one of the southern 'deprived' regions of the country, however the final approved law saw these dramatic exemptions reduced to 50%.

Players need to agree to a two year minimum contract
Incoming players and coaches who wish to take advantage of the law will need to agree to stay for a minimum of 24 months. Furthermore they can only take advantage of the new tax regime if they pay a further 0.5% of their taxable income to the state, with this money being used to invest in training.

What is yet to be decided is when the law will come into effect. In principle it is expected that it will apply to income as of January, meaning that players who sign this summer will be subject to normal tax for six months, before moving onto the reduced rates in 2020.

The new law has given a clear impetus to the transfer market in Italy this summer, with more activity than in recent years, and rumours over signing major names such as Pogba, de Ligt, Lukaku and James Rodríguez whose salaries have all become a lot cheaper.

One other thing to note is that the regime applies to Italian nationals who have lived outside the country for two years, provided they meet a series of requirements. Alas for Buffon, he's only been away for one year...
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simonhch said:
In all seriousness, can you think of a worse main striker that we've had, than Lukaku, in the last 25-30 years? Fringe players not included.
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Off the top of my head: Forlan, Falcao. Also as much as I love Rooney, he was dreadful his last few seasons here.
 
Thanks, this is very helpful. But players or short term contractors are a bit screwed because at the renewal they would not get the good rates. Or am I long?

However a guy who signed an indefinite term contract would get such tax relief forever? Or only for 2 years?

That’s basically a 50% pre tax deduction. It’s very nice for high salaries!
 
Spurs and Arsenal look scary. I'm not confident we'll get top 4. Massive underrating of Luiz going on here btw, he is prone to mistakes but is very good with the ball and usually pretty solid.
 
VanGaalyTime said:
Would explain why we were so eager to get the Inter Lukaku deal done today. 70m should be enough. We can challenge for top four with another midfielder.
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Infra-red said:
Final bits of De Gea's contract to sort out, too.
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Rolaholic said:
Judging from his post earlier,more likely that it was to finally Dave's new deal tbh.
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Just been sent my mates pics with the people he met at the Lowry last night and this morning. Cancelo, Jorge Mendes and Harry Maguire all stayed there. He managed to get a selfie and a quick chat with them all. Shame it was to do with City and Cancelo and not clearly us anyway.
 
Suv666 said:
Spurs and Arsenal look scary. I'm not confident we'll get top 4. Massive underrating of Luiz going on here btw, he is prone to mistakes but is very good with the ball and usually pretty solid.
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Scary :lol:
 
Suv666 said:
Spurs and Arsenal look scary. I'm not confident we'll get top 4. Massive underrating of Luiz going on here btw, he is prone to mistakes but is very good with the ball and usually pretty solid.
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Easy pal - what on earth do you think City and Pool look like then?!
 
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