Very sensible indeed. I'm not particularly keen to see us go down the Chelsea '89 players on loan' route, but hoovering up Europe's best youngsters is definitely something we should be doing.
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Very sensible indeed. I'm not particularly keen to see us go down the Chelsea '89 players on loan' route, but hoovering up Europe's best youngsters is definitely something we should be doing.
If we make a swap deal with Juve. There must be a value for the players so clubs like Everton that owns percentage of future sales get something. How are the clubs are going to value the players then. This can mean the clubs can agree to put low values and both benefits from it. Does anybody know how this works?
Ah fair. Conveniently leaves out ‘cautious optimism’ and the meeting with Sarri which shows it’s not all that close.
They do realise our window shuts pretty soon? You can just imagine Dybala barricading himself and Sarri in his office until the window shuts.
Wonder if Mehdi Benatia ever made it to Manchester?
I believe in cases like this there's no sell-on fee because United are not receiving a sum for Lukaku. It's how many clubs get around paying a percentage.
He's still circling waiting to land.
No. The article specfically states he's in London to talk to United and United only on Lukaku and Dybala and absolute no mention of those players you listed. Both clubs want to get this over the line quick
interesting.
The article took his presence in London to generate a story. That's how modern day journalism works.
He may be here for Dybala, or he may be here for a range of other transfers that are reported. Feck knows which is which outside those in the negotiating table.
Has it occurred to you that Pochettino might have wanted to keep those players, rather than sell them? Has it occurred to you that Spurs might not have continued to finish in the top 4 and reach the CL final last season had all those players been sold? Has it occurred to you that squad continuity is an under-rated advantage compared to always looking at shiny new signings?
The income for Spurs from successive CL campaigns over the last several season has dwarfed any £150m income gained from selling those three players. In any case, all of that money would have been needed to sign replacements - so what would have been the gain for Spurs? And if better players were available for Spurs to replace them with, then why didn't United sign those better players?
Moreover, two of those three players can still be sold for extra funds if the club so wishes.
Instead of complaining that Spurs wouldn't sell to United, it would been best for United to have focused these last few seasons on improving their own transfer-signings approach.
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So can I order a shirt with his name on yet? Don't even care about the number
Side note: United will win the Premier League before Tottenham do
Side note: United will win the Premier League before Tottenham do
Very good point
If Arsenal want to buy those players you listed, they as buyers should be going to Turin to negotiate instead of Juve the sellers flying over to London themselves. This is the way it work in the business world
Anyone actually think we will still sign Maguire and as for Fernandes well that one is definitely dead now Pogba is staying.
I did believe at one point we would still get him to play with Pogba but that isn't happening now.
I did believe at one point we would still get him to play with Pogba but that isn't happening now.
Like when Spurs went three windows without signing a player, or came third in a two horse race?
You’re all over the propaganda I’ll give you that. When United were linked with all these players you were straight in telling us they were all in decline and Spurs didn’t need to keep them.
He should be jumping at the chance to play for United, but he is jumping at the chance to be payed cca 400k Pounds gross, 210k net. That willl make him happy and cheerful after being sad that Juve does not want him. And his fanboys are unziping their pants out of happyness, tell me how long will it take for Caf to turn against their new darling, when they finaly open their eyes and realized he is here for the money and marketing heaven and nothing else.
And don't give me europa league, finish 6th and all that. We are freaking Manchester United, 6 bad years does not mean we are shit no name club that every player wants to avoid, or join only for a huge amount of money and a brand new brand while stroling on the pitch, not giving a shite..
And yes I think he is money grabbing person, he does not want to leave Juve, but Juve does not want him, so he will do us a favor of joining us for a huge amount of money because he is a suuuch a big name, who won trophies in Italy, for Juve.
Don't like him, don't want him, in case you haven't noticed...
Now you all, feel free to jump on me defending our new best player, I'm off.
There we go then. Our summer business is done. Cheers for the confirmation mate.
Partly agree, depends on the personality and also culture and where they are from, but SOuth Americans dont really have an affinity to us at all, always been Portugese clubs as a stepping stone to Spanish clubs and to a lesser extent Italy.
As most of these players wont be fully aware of our history and standing as a club and as currently our recent footballing history isnt that great, sadly money for many of these players is the main thing we have to offer.
In the personal case of Dybala he is at a club and city he loves but appears to being cast aside. If he is to move of course he will want to be getting paid more money as an incentive.
It does smell very similar to ADM stories we are reading and the main thing for me is getting shot of Lukaku, but I dont see how Dybala signing can be a bad thing. I personally thought DiMaria was the wrong signing at the time and we should have ironically gone for SAnchez. I thought signing Sanchez happened at the wrogn time and would cause a few problems. Thought similar for different reasons when we signed Veron. Current side needs an injection of quality which I think he will be and his versatility allows us to solve some of our attacking problems too so mabe wrongly Im massively for the signing even if virtually every big foreign signing we have made hasnt worked
Haha, just as I read posts above this and realised Dybala is asking for £450k odd a week, hoiw crasy is that...................heres JOhnny
Why do they have to be 24-28? And why do they have to be a reasonable price when Maguire so obviously isnt?
I think this is the way to go for sustained success in the future. There is too much TV money for the big teams to continue to poach players off small teams for cheap as has been the way in the past. The crazy amounts being asked for average players just makes me think you need to build through the youth system and only use big money transfers to fill a hole (injury/no youth player ready) or take advantage of an opportunity when it presents itself (free or player/club wants out of a bad situation).
Agree. I think - in the end - this will hurt the likes of Leicester more. Because what bigger teams will now do is try to snap up as many of the younger players as possible, leaving the others to fight over the rest. It also means United must invest more in scouting structures to find the next Maguire or Robertson.
Wish we could get Sanchez off the books even if its a pretty big pay off, at least gets the wages off the books. I really like Dybala and hope we can negotiate the wages down if they are true at all in the first place anyway. Good as he is £400k is too much, even selling Sanchez it leaves us with the same problem. Think £300k we have pretty much offered is generous as it is, maybe up it £20-25k and if he doesnt agree to that, move on
Dybala already plays for an elite club that affords him great wages and exposure, along with being a lot more competitive than United sporting wise in recent years. Yes, he's supposedly out of favor with them now, but that doesn't mean that he will or should jump at the chance of joining a club that has been on a downward trend. Of course he will try to maximise his earning potential.
Your post is full of emotional nonsense and jumping to conclusions/assumptions. Just because the guy is making sure he is well remunerated for the risk he is taking, and yes, joining United currently is a big risk, does not mean he will be "strolling on the pitch, not giving a shite". You sound like the type to look at Venus, see clouds, and conclude dinosaurs must exist there.
Andre Schurrle joins Spartak Moscow on loan.
The lack of outgoings is probably the worst part for me as well, hope that changes more than just Lukaku by the end of the season.
I think the last 3years or so there has been talk of 8-9 out and 5-6 in and its never happened or anywhere close and then fans say there is too much to do in one window, the fact is we havent done enough either way in any window for quite a few years now, let alone in my opinion 90% of the signings at the time havent been great ones for me, which has been the case.
One positive this summer, at least we have made a great signing in my opinion in Bissaka
We're in the midst of very long negotiations. In London, Fabio Paratici Juventus Sporting Director is also working side by side with the agents of Dybala and Lukaku (Pastorello is also in England) and with Manchester United in order to reach agreements and complete the exchange. Between impasse and optimism, the sides continue to negotiate to reach the total finalization of the deal. Dybala, meanwhile, is expected in Turin. And if nothing changes, tomorrow he will train regularly with Sarri's team, with whom he will want to talk in the coming days. Perhaps, for a short time.
All sensible economics....but like Sanchez, paying a player such high wages, creates problems both with other players and then selling them on if they dont perform. I think Dybala is a really good signing of course, but £420k a week, especially after a poor season for him is going a bit far I think
Seems every fortnight we are linked with a teenage wonderboy from France, have we signed any this summer?
Not true. In fact even with regard to Toby, the oldest of the three, I've said that Spurs have offered him a new contract and I'd be happy to see him sign it. The fact that he wants more money than Spurs are willing to pay is a different matter.
Moreover, you confuse "want" with "need". If Toby (for example) leaves, then we have upcoming CBs to step into his shoes - e.g. Sanchez ,Foyth.
Of course both he and Rose probably will decline over the coming 2 or 3 years, but that doesn't mean they can't still make a valuable contribution to the squad.
Anyhow, take it to the Spurs thread if you want to comment further on this.
I love that Ed doesn't fly out to other presidents. They come to him. Boss mode
Has to be some of the worst, deluded crap I've seen posted here. And there were a few who wanted Martial swapped for Willian.
SOmeone had a bad trip to Bournemouth
I remember many clubs mine included, doing the old bucket collections for them when they almost went bankrupt. So their loose finance now doesn't quite sit right.
I don't know if it's the translation or just the way Italians speak, but it sounds like all parties are locked in a room deliberating and won't come out until a unanimous decision is reached.
Dybala isnt coming at the tail end of his career. His poor season had a lot of different factors and he still scored 10 across the season despite playing less. Worst case scenario he has sell on value.
Being paid in £££ is no picnic at the minute, I wonder whether a different currency could lower the wages? Could that be part of how this works?!
I don’t.
Could it happen tonight? Don’t know why he has to go to Juv to meet Sarri. Always a phone call..
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