Most top teams don't rely on their executive to run the footballing side of the club. Most clubs are not Manchester United where expectations are so high. Most owners who cared about footballing performance would have grave concerns about Woodward's performance over the last 6 years. Luckily for him, ours don't. They only care about profit, and Woodward is good at making them money.
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We've got Sancho, Paul Pogba and Dalot, and Rashford, he's manc born you know.
Or other such deviations....!
26 goals and 14 assists this season alone? Wow.
This marketing toy thing is again baseless and seemingly emotional. So if I say we signed Pogba and Sanchez because the manager wanted them, and you say it’s because they were ‘marketing toys’ - when we step back, which is more reasonable? Are Pogba and Sanchez not actually top football players? Or did we mistakenly sign them instead of Kylie Jenner? That just smacks of criticising to criticise. If we pursue the best players in the world, I suspect they may also be a little bit popular and marketable. I don’t think anyone have a feck about what Sanchez did off the pitch anyway. He’s popular because he’s been good at football for a long time.
We don’t know the detail of what happened last summer. Backing your manager doesn’t mean he gets any player he wants anyway. If he says ‘buy a 29 y/o defender with one year on his deal for £70m’, I think the boss has a right to veto. City pulled out of signing Sanchez, despite Pep wanting him. Should they have sacked him too, as they don’t believe in him?
I don’t know what Woodward does or doesn’t know about football. I know that he lives a life and works in the world that is caf experts commentate on all day every day. I would guess that he knows as much as he needs to know.
The bottom line is that we haven’t won the league. Not that we haven’t bought players. Good players. Not that we haven’t appointed proven successful managers. We all want United to win, I accept, but when we don’t, we just blame who we know. Why does nobody want Arnold or whatever his name is sacked? Apparently he leads on transfers anyway. I suspect what really happens in the running of a top football club is far from whatever we have put together from scraps of newspaper headlines that change everyday.
The problem with Ed is that he provides the sticks.
The only real defence of Woodward from sycophants is: "you're just a random fan on the internet, you couldn't do better!". Which is irrelevant of course, since we are not being paid a huge amount of money to do the job. He is though. When someone is in charge of a massive institution that you care about, you want the best people in charge - people who know more than the average fan.
And how do you determine the best person to be in charge? Us winning the treble? He’s not a coach or player. We have spent a lot of money under him on proven football players. When ‘random fans on the internet’ start dismissing that as ‘yea but they were just marketing toys’ it is clear that the discussion serves little benefit.
Shame about the source, he would be great for us. I hope we're looking at him, it's a decent fee too
No one is paying that much because they know Barca are chasing de Ligt.
I know this wouldn't be a huge issue most games, but Lindelöf/Umtiti would be quite a short and aerially weak CB partnership no? Other than that though, they'd make a nice balanced pair on paper and could really help us with our build-up play.
Maybe he is after a new contract.
Don't do it Ed.
Hope he does leave but those clubs wont be his destination unless they are after a world class pointer, clapper and thumbs upper!
A thread of tweets about Pogba.
"United assume that must negociate for Pogba but will try to "fish" in Madrid".
"United know that Pogba wants to come to Madrid"
"Solskjaer tries to buy some time saying that Pogba has the doors closed but ultimately they know That Pogba wants to leave and Will have to sit and hear offers"
"Pogba asked Raiola weeks ago to fix his relationship with Madrid and not to hinder his desire"
"a factor that can facilitate the operation: Solskjaer would like the idea of signing some player from Madrid.In concrete he showed interest in two "(Bale and Varane)
"United assume that must negociate for Pogba but will try to "fish" in Madrid".
"United know that Pogba wants to come to Madrid"
"Solskjaer tries to buy some time saying that Pogba has the doors closed but ultimately they know That Pogba wants to leave and Will have to sit and hear offers"
"Pogba asked Raiola weeks ago to fix his relationship with Madrid and not to hinder his desire"
"a factor that can facilitate the operation: Solskjaer would like the idea of signing some player from Madrid.In concrete he showed interest in two "(Bale and Varane)
Jose is gone and Pogba still wants to leave. Don't even know what to say.
I could imagine Real offering us 15m to be paid over 5 years whilst also quoting us 100m for Varane to be paid immediately.
Hate that club.
Marca would give Goebells a run for his money when it comes to propaganda.
It may just be optimism, but I don't think that's true.
That last part is very hard to believe. If he is interested in Bale it literally goes against his own words about signing for the future and not just to make an impact for a season or two. And also who would be interested in Bale anyway with his ridiculous injury problems and even more absurd, his wages and probably huge transfer fee.
It's Marca...they claim that Real are going to sign every top clubs star every single summer
United has always been a stepping stone for Pogba.
Pogba wont be here long either way in my opinion. He is going to want to win the big trophies and we cant do it.
Yeah but it's just the (add country here) league.
Looks a real talent and would love to see him here, our team stinks when it comes to technical ability.
If Pogba wants out, let him go. Brilliant player on his day but he just doesn't seem bothered in an United shirt.
If and when he signs to Juve or Madrid, he'll become top 3 Ballon D'or eventually but we shouldn't be phased, he doesn't have the hunger here to achieve it.
It's extremely valuable on and off the pitch for a club. In this new market we could buy a new midfield 3 for his transfer fee.
If and when he signs to Juve or Madrid, he'll become top 3 Ballon D'or eventually but we shouldn't be phased, he doesn't have the hunger here to achieve it.
It's extremely valuable on and off the pitch for a club. In this new market we could buy a new midfield 3 for his transfer fee.
Told you Real isn't interested in calamity footballers.
To be fair scoring that many goals as a CAM nullifies the league argument. Especially when they're absolute unstoppable bangers from outside the box
.If Pogba leaves and he can offer half that assist & goal output every season he would be a fine replacement in an attacking CM situation.
Told you Real isn't interested in calamity footballers.
Pogba & de Gea swap deal for Ceballos & Navas lets just blow it all up.
To be fair scoring that many goals as a CAM nullifies the league argument. Especially when they're absolute unstoppable bangers from outside the box
If Pogba leaves and he can offer half that assist & goal output every season he would be a fine replacement in an attacking CM situation.
Exactly, phenomenal stats regardless. I hope we go for him even if Pogba stays. Sign a better DM than Matic also.
Hasn't his form been abit iffy ?
Griezmann will say yes to Barsa.His setting(agent?) has already spoken with them
He openly talks about their marketability. Yes they’re both good footballers but I don’t believe that we have paid the fee we did for Pogba if it didn’t have money making potential outside of what he does on a football pitch. Why was Woodward so obsessed with breaking the record? The problem isn’t about buying great players and benefitting from them through marketing. The problem for me is when money can be found for those players but when the manager wanted a defender it was decided that the money wasn’t there unless it was Raphael Varane. Tell me why that makes senses and isn’t proof of his intentions? The same amount of money isn’t available for unfashionable players that won’t look good in magazines.
The issue isn’t disagreeing with one deal, it was deciding you know better and leaving the squad short as a result. Alderweireld wasn’t the only defender that could’ve improved us. Woodward decided to tell the press if it wasn’t Varane then what’s the point.
Yeah, they didn’t sign Sanchez. But City didn’t decide that because they couldn’t get that one player that they just wouldn’t bother signing another for that position and tell the press they knew better than Guardiola. Therein lies the difference.
I’d suggest he doesn’t know enough about football which is one of the reasons we are where we find ourselves. Maybe it is Arnold but Woodward is the public face so therefore he gets the criticism or praise.
I think we’ve taken up enough of the tweets thread with this shite anyway. I’m happy to discuss in a Woodward thread if you like.
I think that you might be Ed Woodward, you have infiltrated the caf. Firstly I was one of many excited when Sanchez came, don't think many could have seen how disappointing he'd be. I disagree with you about the contract with Sanchez, yes there was no transfer fee but he had only a few months left on his contract and we swapped a player for him. He was definitely not in his prime when he came here, he was being benched by Arsenal and not performing to the standard he was a while before. We thought a new start was what was needed and he could work under Jose, let's not rewrite history, he was in bad form the end of previous season. He definitely was going to be on big wages, nobody would argue that. What you should argue is that how much more than our top earners he would be on, the potential 70 grand a week bonus for starting games that the BBC reported the other day. That's scandalous if true, doesn't take a genius to figure out that's not going to sit well with some. Especially with many players with contract renewals coming up. That's just poor long term planning, Ed Woodward has to take blame. Jose didn't give a feck if we were paying him a million a week, he was never here for the long term. The contract to me wasn't properly thought out. It was in one part stopping city from getting stronger, secondly trying to make a statement marquee signing without thinking of long term consequence. That deal was poorly planned and it felt reactionary, it's not like we offered 10 grand more than city did.
That's the point isn't it, our transfer policy has been erratic. From buying Fellaini in a Summer for more than we had to, from buying Paul Pogba on a record fee as an investment. Managers definitely had a say in our transfer plans but Ed Woodward is not getting a pass, responsibility has to be taken. He's played a huge part in the mess that we are currently in.
Darmian could have be sold last summer, Italian clubs were put off the price. Yeah you can't fleeced but what's the point keeping someone who isn't going to play. Somebody who wants to move on and isn't close to second choice. I'm not going in to with the chuckle brothers at the back. If you think keeping Smalling and Jones on long term contract was a wise move then you must have been in hibernation since Fergie left, we aren't getting back to the top with these two starting regular.
Where is the long term planning, accountability and most importantly responsibility? Ed Woodward was appointed by the Glazers to help the club on and off the pitch. He's got many commercial deals off the pitch but unless the club start performing on it then that's not sustainable forever. Blame can't be pinned on one individual but it must be shared. Your delusional if you think this summer will run smoothly, we only have other Summers to compare it to. We need a DOF who is planning for the next five to ten years, that's with a route from the academy to first team, recruitment of youth/experience and preparing for exits. It's not about letting better players leave because of poor contract negotiations, keeping players in obvious decline and relying on one window to fix it all. Sick of Glazer sympathisers in here. You can construct your posts as elegant as you want, doesn't change that there is flawed points throughout it.
Darmian it was peanuts in transfer fee terms that we wouldn't let him go, but we then don't play him, but carry on paying his wages.
Yes,I know.I do not think he's so sure, especially knowing Griezmann.
I personally think it would be a good sale, plus he earns too much.
Does Pogba have the discipline sit back though? He sulked when he was playing 1 of 2 CDMs in Jose's team.
Even if he had the discipline for it, its a total waste of his talent. I think we all know that by now.
Yeah not really true. And that would be daft, we have about 4 positions to buy players for, one more would be awful.
I think we would have let him go if the Italian teams not took the piss with the transfer fee.
We can’t simply offload unwanted players for peanuts as this will become the trend...we needed to be tougher in negotiations for player sales and if we end up not getting any returns and so be it. At least those clubs will rethink their strategy next time when they want to buy our players again
So he used us as a stepping stone, left, then came back to step on the stone again?
Ah Marca..
He just signed an extension too,the club won't have any thoughts of selling for a few years at least nor should they. It'd be incredibly daft
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