Transfer Tweets - 2018/19 | Remember if posting foreign language tweets to post in English too

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Transfers are just a complete lottery no matter what approach or strategy anyone undertakes. How much you pay for someone rarely indicates whether they are going to work out or not cause there's too many variables from age, experience, culture, language, experience in this league, style of play, whether they settle, right fit with team, get on with team mates, family settle, injuries, change of manager as there's the strong possibility that the person who signed you will be here for a shorter period of time than you are.

Same for all the clubs, just easier as we know when the stars align and you win things. Ultimately that's the measure of your transfers strategy. No one focuses of the amount of players that it didn't work out for a City, just the ones that it did. Amazing how winning can bury the bodies of your mistakes.

I don't think he/she is talking about players not working out but more having managers with contrasting styles which means that some players bought would immediately become redundant due to not fitting with the new style of play.
 
Transfers are just a complete lottery no matter what approach or strategy anyone undertakes. How much you pay for someone rarely indicates whether they are going to work out or not cause there's too many variables from age, experience, culture, language, experience in this league, style of play, whether they settle, right fit with team, get on with team mates, family settle, injuries, change of manager as there's the strong possibility that the person who signed you will be here for a shorter period of time than you are.

Same for all the clubs, just easier as we know when the stars align and you win things. Ultimately that's the measure of your transfers strategy. No one focuses of the amount of players that it didn't work out for a City, just the ones that it did. Amazing how winning can bury the bodies of your mistakes.
Transfers are definitely not just a complete lottery. There is a massive amount of work done by competent top clubs on every player. It's a huge investment, do you really think they just pick a player after a few good performances and that's it? It's well known that Fergie used to want to get to know the player and his family before signing them to make sure they had the right mentality etc. He preferred British players because they tend to settle better, adapt to the league and culture.
Of course there is always risk, but that doesn't make it a lottery.
 

"His agent, Mino Raiola, a specialist in hard bargaining, is already working on finding his client a new club. Pogba is under contract until June 2021 and has already turned down an offer to renew terms with United so the situation at Old Trafford this summer, as far as the France international is concerned, looks set to be quite tense. United will need to put in an offer too good to resist to tempt him to sign a new deal...."

This must have been written by Mino Raiola!
 
Jesus Christ it's not even April! This is gonna be a bloody long summer!

The likes of United, Real, Bayern looking to rebuild. Liverpool, City, Barca all looking to reinforce.

There are gonna be some big moves and lots of random BS tweets, I'm not looking forward to this.
 
Jesus Christ it's not even April! This is gonna be a bloody long summer!

The likes of United, Real, Bayern looking to rebuild. Liverpool, City, Barca all looking to reinforce.

There are gonna be some big moves and lots of random BS tweets, I'm not looking forward to this.

I am :drool: it's going to be a very muppet summer.
 
£250m would get Sancho, De Ligt and Koulibaby! In fact give you a decent amount of change to get a full back in too.

This is closer to what we should do. Personally I wouldn't buy Koulibaly, because the price seems crazy for a 28 year old, anywhere between £80m-£150m. As with Sanchez I'm sure the price has never really changed, but the papers need to rehash the same story each week with a bigger number. By the summer it'll be a £500m deal including contract!

However I think competing hard for De Ligt makes more sense at say £70m. Also Sancho £100m and ideally someone like Wan Bisakka £50m and Rabiot. That's a lot of young talent which may not pay off for a couple of years, but then places us in the position of having one of the best young squads who could be world beating over the subsequent few years.

Skriniar might be hard to get, but stretching another £75m on him would make a lot of sense.

Finally a Lukaku for Icardi could make a lot of sense all round.

The above is all doable in one window and would have us in the kids will never win it category...but we might!
 
I see a lot of these stupid posts floating about in the lead up to, and during transfer windows. If the teenage twitter fans stop frothing at the mouth for a second, they’ll realise that we have been consistently big spenders over the last few seasons. Closing several big transfers, and have cycled huge amounts of players out of the squad.

The issue is not our ability to sign or sell players. Our problem is that we’ve had no coherent strategic intent in our recruitment and management processes. We’ve hired successive coaches whose tactical preferences were antithetical to their predecessors, necessitating in the the cycling of old players, and purchase of new. This creates a constant cycle of “deadwood”.

The solution isn’t to put the finger at Woodward and cry about how we never close transfer deals - because that’s patently untrue. It is to hire a director of football who not only understands the sporting DNA of the club, but can also continue to refine and shape it to the modern era. This way you get consistency in recruitment, and mitigate against the accumulation of deadwood.

In just one example, over the first 12 months of Van Gaal’s tenure the club moved on 14, fourteen!, first team players; and signed a host of replacements. Including a massive deal for Di Maria. Mourinho, then (again) replaced half the squad, and we brought in the lines of Pogba, Lukaku, and Sanchez in massive deals.

So unlike this this poster, I have every confidence in United “getting it done” in the transfer market - a cursory examination of recent history confirms that - Instead, my concern is us “getting it done” for players that might only suit a short term managerial appointment.

My hope is that Ole, or whoever the next manager will be, will be the first of a long line of managers to play in a well defined “Manchester United way”. Squad building can then act independently - albeit with vital input from the manager - on an institutional level; giving the club stability and success over a sustained period.

Some good content, but missing one over riding point....

Our signings and in particular failed signings are less about the formational/ tactical fit for each specific manager and more about the players not being good enough or the right position for any of our managers.

Mata as a natural 10, for example doesn't fit under any of the managers preferred formations.

And most of the signings have just not been good enough.
 
We are not selling Pogba ffs. This is just the classic contract renewal strategy orchestrated by Mino.

On another note: where is the funds of Barcelona coming from? It cant be the Neymar money no more. Coutinho, Dembele De Jong were all big priced transfers. Now adding De Ligt and Jobic to that list?
 
We are not selling Pogba ffs. This is just the classic contract renewal strategy orchestrated by Mino.

On another note: where is the funds of Barcelona coming from? It cant be the Neymar money no more. Coutinho, Dembele De Jong were all big priced transfers. Now adding De Ligt and Jobic to that list?
I can imagine Barca having abit of a turnover this summer. Coutinho and Vidal the bigger stars who I think could be on the way out.
Other players who'll likely be moved on would probably be Rafinha,Alena,Malcom,Vermaelen,Douglas,Dennis Suarez,Gomes and to my surprise Arda Turan.
 
Redcafe transfer thread:

He's great!
YouTube compliation.
He's great!
He's great!
He's not that good actually.
Too old/inexperienced.
He's not that old/inexperienced!
We already have Existing Player anyway.
Good squad player/back up, maybe.
What about using Youth Prospect instead.
Prefer A N Other player anyway.
Thread goes quiet for a few weeks until Sport Witness article, then go back to the start.
 
Seriously. These Pogba Sagas and what not they are just in your head. United will not sell Pogba.

What do you mean "United will not sell" If he wants to go there is nothing we could do. Did you say the same about Ronaldo when he was constantly linked away from the club?
 
What do you mean "United will not sell" If he wants to go there is nothing we could do. Did you say the same about Ronaldo when he was constantly linked away from the club?
He has many years left on his contract. If he goes, Madrid will have to pay top dollar.
 
Not related, but i reckon we'll get Griezmann in to play with Pogba at United. Woodward knows Antoine has tons of commercial value, he'll go for it also as a tool to keep Pogba happy at the club
 
Not related, but i reckon we'll get Griezmann in to play with Pogba at United. Woodward knows Antoine has tons of commercial value, he'll go for it also as a tool to keep Pogba happy at the club

Think he'd be a tremendous signing especially under Ole, but I doubt it, think he'd cost too much.
 
He has a release clause for 100 million euro's as far as I know?
200 milion but it apparently drops to 120 at the beginning of the transfer window, which I could see us paying. But he also on giant wages and there's no way he'd come here if we don't get CL.
 
I don't think he/she is talking about players not working out but more having managers with contrasting styles which means that some players bought would immediately become redundant due to not fitting with the new style of play.

Same answer, thats applies to most clubs given the average lifespan of a manager is less than 3 seasons.
 
Transfers are definitely not just a complete lottery. There is a massive amount of work done by competent top clubs on every player. It's a huge investment, do you really think they just pick a player after a few good performances and that's it? It's well known that Fergie used to want to get to know the player and his family before signing them to make sure they had the right mentality etc. He preferred British players because they tend to settle better, adapt to the league and culture.
Of course there is always risk, but that doesn't make it a lottery.

Lottery for me despite the work thats goes into them. You can sign a world class player thats proven everywhere that hes played and still cant guarentee whether he'd be a success.
 
Not related, but i reckon we'll get Griezmann in to play with Pogba at United. Woodward knows Antoine has tons of commercial value, he'll go for it also as a tool to keep Pogba happy at the club
Not happening. The board will try a different approach this summer buying young talent that can be developed like Sancho or established players for the right price who might have something to prove like Coutinho or Bale. On top of that I don't think Pogba will be here next season.
 
PSG'd drive Mbappe to Madrid if they receive 290m for him from Real Madrid. Mbappe is good players but not world beaters, he can't influence games as much as Hazard, Messi, Neymar do. it's a massive gamble for Real Madrid.
 
PSG'd drive Mbappe to Madrid if they receive 290m for him from Real Madrid. Mbappe is good players but not world beaters, he can't influence games as much as Hazard, Messi, Neymar do. it's a massive gamble for Real Madrid.

What...a stupidly narrow view. Have you heard of something called potential? He's looking like he's going to be the best forward in the world in a few years time. He's 20 freaking years old and just won the WC. He has no peer in the world in his age group.
 
PSG'd drive Mbappe to Madrid if they receive 290m for him from Real Madrid. Mbappe is good players but not world beaters, he can't influence games as much as Hazard, Messi, Neymar do. it's a massive gamble for Real Madrid.
No they won't, it would be terrible business. Even if they were desperate for money they'd rather sacrifice other players. Neither does Mbappé want to move so soon.
 
Same answer, thats applies to most clubs given the average lifespan of a manager is less than 3 seasons.

Indeed and most have them, or a sporting director and we have not since our structure is outdated.
 
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