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Simply not true, if they'd lost confidence he'd have been sacked. Owners don't want to invest, that's exactly what the issue is. No value in the market as the old boss used to say...

Surely recent spending trends would tell you the opposite was true?
 
Simply not true, if they'd lost confidence he'd have been sacked. Owners don't want to invest, that's exactly what the issue is. No value in the market as the old boss used to say...

No, we wait til top 4 is out of reach, then he will get sacked, see van Gaal and Moyes. The board have given up on him, but dont want to sack him now for money and 'we are not a sacking club' reasons
 


Jose Mourinho claims that Manchester United are fighting a losing battle in the transfer market and will be unable to make major signings in January.

Mourinho argues that United’s chances of adding to their squad further have been hampered because it is becoming increasingly difficult to buy top-class players
 


Jose Mourinho claims that Manchester United are fighting a losing battle in the transfer market and will be unable to make major signings in January.

Mourinho argues that United’s chances of adding to their squad further have been hampered because it is becoming increasingly difficult to buy top-class players


He does realise world class players are made right? Martial could be better than Son, given the right opportunity, how does he think Spurs got their hands on them? Those 4 players cost them what, £30m right? Player development is a wonderful thing José!
 
Simply not true, if they'd lost confidence he'd have been sacked. Owners don't want to invest, that's exactly what the issue is. No value in the market as the old boss used to say...

They clearly no longer trust his judgement when it comes to identifying players. He should have been sacked in the summer, as many on here said at the time. This mess of a season was entirely predictable.
 
He does realise world class players are made right? Martial could be better than Son, given the right opportunity, how does he think Spurs got their hands on them? Those 4 players cost them what, £30m right? Player development is a wonderful thing José!
Well exactly. The irony appears to be lost on him. Development of your own, identifying young talent in lower leagues or abroad and developing it, I mean does a manager have any role in bringing players on?
 
Jose should try coaching the players he has
 
This is a relief.
Deal with the hand you've got,Jose.

Edit: I hazard a guess that those Spurs players Jose mentioned were all brought and developed under 40 million.But that'll be totally lost on him.
 
Well exactly. The irony appears to be lost on him. Development of your own, identifying young talent in lower leagues or abroad and developing it, I mean does a manager have any role in bringing players on?

I think the fact that most of the caf wanted Alli when we played the Dons, and I'm pretty sure a lot wanted to take a punt on Eriksen and Son, admittedly Kane's rose has been a little unexpected, and not something we can control not getting him, but Alli, Son and Eriksen were easily gettable when they left for Spurs.

If we only want ready made stars then we have to go for the ones looking for their last big paycheck, and it'll inevitably fail (Sanchez) as current world class players will want to play for trophies, not for us, only bad eggs will be wanting to join us right now, so younger and hungrier players is the way to go, and Mourinho isn't the one to facilitate that.
 
Roma were CL semi finalists last year, would be a good move for Bailly if we were to let him leave. Although I can't see it happening, unless we're buying a CB.

I mean within the club. He was star center back of the future and suddenly can't even get a game while the manager moans about lack of options.
 


Jose Mourinho claims that Manchester United are fighting a losing battle in the transfer market and will be unable to make major signings in January.

Mourinho argues that United’s chances of adding to their squad further have been hampered because it is becoming increasingly difficult to buy top-class players


He bought Lukaku, turned him into shit, bought Alexis, turned him into shit, does anyone believe this shit merchant would do any better with Kane, Eriksen or Alli?

He'd go there and moan about not being able to buy someone else. The moron sold Salah, de Bruyne etc at Chelsea and now they are running the league. Anyone who buys his sad tales or trusts him with a blank check in the transfer market deserves a lobotomy.
 
I mean within the club. He was star center back of the future and suddenly can't even get a game while the manager moans about lack of options.
Its almost as if we could judge him accordingly the more he played.
Why do fans hang on to first impressions of footballers like grim death?
This is also why Rashford is still seen by some as this deadly marksman who only has to consistently play CF because of a handful of goals spread over a few months in 2015
 


Jose Mourinho claims that Manchester United are fighting a losing battle in the transfer market and will be unable to make major signings in January.

Mourinho argues that United’s chances of adding to their squad further have been hampered because it is becoming increasingly difficult to buy top-class players


I don't think a United manager should be saying these things. Not only are players avoiding the grinch these days, we did bring Pogba in when there was still hope Jose was a top manager who just had a blip but you also need to find prospects. Evra wasn't world renowned, Vidic wasn't world renowned. We're not finding these players anymore. Seems they only come up on our radar when they're in the 60million + bracket and a prized possession for whatever club found them. We should be getting a Perisic a lot earlier and getting his best years.

Perisic signed for Inter in 2015 for 14 fecking million at 26 years of age. We should not be in a situation of signing him for 50-60 million and 250k a week for one year and lets be honest it could even be less. It's hard to tell with our current manager.There's an endless list of players we're the last to know about.

I get his point, the quick fix is a lot harder with a lot of money around the leagues but we have really only been about that since Fergie left. Since then it's been gambling away on a quick turnaround or a poor attempt to add creativity by rubbish short term managers. Sanchez is a classic example of an aging player on big wages brought in to hope he adds more.

Whether Sanchez is past it or Jose is killing his game, we need to get shut of Jose now and get a manager in to build a team. Other clubs are finding these players we become interested in but it's a year or two late.
 
He does realise world class players are made right? Martial could be better than Son, given the right opportunity, how does he think Spurs got their hands on them? Those 4 players cost them what, £30m right? Player development is a wonderful thing José!

The club has a shocking record of scouting and recruiting these types of players. Your example of Martial is completely irrelevant since he cost a bomb at the time and was not an astute signing whatsoever as pointed out by LVG. Who said that Martial was basically wanted by every top club and a well known prospect, and we payed well over the odds to get him.

I see 4 players that fit the bill of signings like Alli, Eriksen etc.

- Daley Blind
- Marcus Rojo
- Matteo Darmian
- Diogo Dalot

All of these came for low fees and had room to develop into good players. The only one that worked out so far is Daley Blind. So that's 4 under the radar signings in 6 years and 1 of them has given us something significant so far.

Now let's have a look at the last 6 years of SAF career.

- Ashley Young
- Chris Smalling
- Chicharito
- Antonio Valencia
- Tomasz Kuszczak
- Gabriel Obertan
- Mame Diouf
- Bebe
- Anders Lindegaard
- Phil Jones

Thats 10 players that came in for low fees with room to grow, and 5 of them contributed significantly in their time here.

It is obvious that we lost an edge in recruitment with SAF's retirement and instead of hiring specialists to fill the void we just decided to try to find the next SAF. Now we have a massive blind side in our recruitment that has hurt us considerably on the footballing side.
 
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The club has a shocking record of scouting and recruiting these types of players. Your example of Martial is completely irrelevant since he cost a bomb at the time and was not an astute signing whatsoever as pointed out by LVG. Who said that Martial was basically wanted by every top club and a well known prospect, and we payed well over the odds to get him.

I see 4 players that fit the bill of signings like Alli, Eriksen etc.

- Daley Blind
- Marcus Rojo
- Matteo Darmian
- Diogo Dalot

All of these came for low fees and had room to develop into good players. The only one that worked out so far is Daley Blind. So that's 4 under the radar signings in 6 years and 1 of them has given us something significant so far.

Now let's have a look at the last 6 years of SAF career.

- Ashley Young
- Chris Smalling
- Chicharito
- Antonio Valencia
- Carlos Tevez
- Tomasz Kuszczak
- Gabriel Obertan
- Mame Diouf
- Bebe
- Anders Lindegaard
- Phil Jones

Thats 11 players that came in for low fees with room to grow, and 6 of them contributed significantly in their time here.

It is obvious that we lost an edge in recruitment with SAF's retirement and instead of hiring specialists to fill the void we just decided to try to find the next SAF. Now we have a massive blind side in our recruitment that has hurt us considerably on the footballing side.


Yeah, Tevez can't be on that list. His 2 year loan fee was approaching 30 million mate.
 
Yeah, Tevez can't be on that list. His 2 year loan fee was approaching 30 million mate.

My bad mate, I meant to cut him out since i wrote him down looking at only the first year fee. But we payed basically two loan fees because of the way we got him. I'll edit it out.
 
My bad mate, I meant to cut him out since i wrote him down looking at only the first year fee. But we payed basically two loan fees because of the way we got him. I'll edit it out.

No bother haha. Even though he was successful here since we didn't get to keep him that deal always rubbed me the wrong way. That third party ownership shite was robbery.
 
Its almost as if we could judge him accordingly the more he played.
Why do fans hang on to first impressions of footballers like grim death?
This is also why Rashford is still seen by some as this deadly marksman who only has to consistently play CF because of a handful of goals spread over a few months in 2015

Its easy to see the physical tools, which is why everyone was excited. He was not the final product when we bought him and we kind of bought him for that reason, so evaluating over a longer period isn't ideal, if anything it reveals how badly we developed him since then.

If you compare him to Davinson Sanchez at Spurs, they are similarly gifted athletes and make similar mistakes in judgement. Poch has been more patient and put him in scenarios where he can develop while our manager threw him under the bus at the first opportunity and started asking for a replacement.

It doesn't make sense to buy 20-24 year olds if you are not interested in helping them, might as well buy players like Alderweireld and Godin and let them give what is expected of them.
 
My bad mate, I meant to cut him out since i wrote him down looking at only the first year fee. But we payed basically two loan fees because of the way we got him. I'll edit it out.

Jones and Smalling weren’t ‘low fees’ either. The reason (one of the reasons) we won the races for both of them is our willingness to pay what other’s wouldn’t.

Smalling was a kid with less than 20 appearances and we paid £10m for him, back in 2010 or so. Jones was a £16.5m teenager, in 2011.
 
I don't get the narrative that the board are waiting to sack him to save money on the severance package. He has a contract for another 18 months. They will still have to pay big money if he is to be sacked in the summer. They obviously trust him.


His comments rub me the wrong way though. He's clearly going out and saying the team will never be more than the sum of its parts (already way, way behind the sum to begin with). I think he might walk before he's sacked.
 
I don't get the narrative that the board are waiting to sack him to save money on the severance package. He has a contract for another 18 months. They will still have to pay big money if he is to be sacked in the summer. They obviously trust him.


His comments rub me the wrong way though. He's clearly going out and saying the team will never be more than the sum of its parts (already way, way behind the sum to begin with). I think he might walk before he's sacked.

Missing out on top 4 clause is surely included
 
Either of them are welcome to him. There's a young lad at Dortmund everyone should be after and it's not him.
 
We don't seem to be linked with any upcoming young talent anymore.

Oh I forgot it is because Mourinho is our manager!
 
I’m afraid that is the modern day market.

Also clubs are always going to raise the price when we show interest in one of their key players.
I agree with that, but that doesn’t mean we should be paying that for every flavor of the week midfielder, do we never send scouts to watch players playing for clubs outside the top 4 teams in the top 4 leagues or clubs not playing CL football?
 
Either of them are welcome to him. There's a young lad at Dortmund everyone should be after and it's not him.
We have no one for the RW position, waiting for Sancho is not something we should be contemplating. A young and very talented Pulisic would be a great buy for a team who plays Lingard and Mata there.
 
I agree with that, but that doesn’t mean we should be paying that for every flavor of the week midfielder, do we never send scouts to watch players playing for clubs outside the top 4 teams in the top 4 leagues or clubs not playing CL football?


It doesn’t look like we do. The club don’t even have a good scouting system as you can see with the amount of garbage we have brought in over the last number of years.

That’s why I really want a DoF/sporting director to come in and restructure the whole footballing operations at this club. We don’t have an identity or a long term vision. It’s just throw money about hoping for a top 4 finish. We don’t achieve that, then sack the manager and repeat, repeat, repeat and so on. Woodward is just a money commercial man.
 


We were also in attendance at their game vs Slavia Prague last week.

Any particular talents in Bordeaux right now?
 
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