The Ings deal is a 6 month loan then a permanent switch in the summer.
You cmpared Ed's job to yours.
If the clubs of our transfer targets were demanding higher than market value, it's Woodward's job to bring the price down. That's what a good negotiatior does... that's what an experienced business man does... Woodward failed at his job.
Strawman.
Strawman.
Ed literally can't lose on the caf, he pays the going rate, then he's got the man we need, he walks away from a target, he's kept our transfer kitty secure.
You're making excuses for the sake of making excuses. This line of reasoning could be extended ad infinitum. Hell, Moyes could still be manager if you absolved him of blame for every single one of his failings.
I'd say his agent quoted a number that Atletico could match, got a yes and off he ran.Find it strange that we "only" offered 150k\week, with our fecked up wage structure he'd easily be a 200k\week player. Likely his last big contract as well so we should have pushed out the boat, would have been great to have a leader at the back again.
Who said I wasn't supporting what we have?
Amazing isn't it? While the likes of Liverpool manage to sell their useless players like Ings who has scored like 3 goals in 3 years, we struggle to sell Argentina and Italy NT first choice players like Rojo and Darmian.Over £20m for Ings. Wow.
The Ings deal is a 6 month loan then a permanent switch in the summer.
Is the window officially over in England by now then ?
Is the window officially over in England by now then ?
Yeah. One more signing - Zouma to Everton - to be confirmed I think.
Yep.
Well, at least no more rumors is the only positive thing I guess.
Rumours of outgoings, there will be
Nice of him to only waste 20 minutes of our time in that case. Could have milked the better part of the summer.Have we just been Ramos'ed again?!
Don't want to open a new thread just for this, so I'll ask here: What's the deal with all these loans with obligations to buy? Some sort of strategy as a consequence of Financial Fair Play?
Are you sure?Martial is staying. That's good.
Not 100 percent sure. Do you have some info?Are you sure?
I only know teams from other leagues can still buy players. Still possibility for naughty stuff to happen.Not 100 percent sure. Do you have some info?
You could make an excuse for every one of Moyes' failures. Just as you're doing for Woodward.I'll reply this one last time, because you're just talking nonsense now.
I compared it to my job, after you started saying you work in sales, so I compared my experience to that of yours
Negotiations break down all the time, regardless of how good the negotiators are, if a club isn't willing to move on price it isn't necessarily because the buyer is a bad negotiator, again without knowing all the facts, it is impossible to apportion blame.
They're not strawman arguments at all, that is literally how the majority of the caf responds. There are very few if any that respond how you outline, just because you wrote it, doesn't make it true.
No that line of reasoning can't be extended to Moyes, he is judged on tangible results, like how far we go in cups, and our league position. They weren't good enough so he was sacked.
Ed is judged on what he does for the finances of Manchester United, which are better than they've ever been.
You can't judge him on negotiations for footballers that you have zero facts about.
"Jose Mourinho was told by Manchester United that the club would only sign a world-class defender of the calibre of Real Madrid’s World Cup winner Raphael Varane rather than compromise with a lesser light, despite the manager’s demands otherwise. United would have paid £100 million for Varane but the World Cup winner was never available and as the options were put to them over the course of a transfer window there were too many good reasons to ignore them."