I'm confused. Why can't we buy him next year if we offered enough, Real accept the offer and the player wants it?
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I'm confused. Why can't we buy him next year if we offered enough, Real accept the offer and the player wants it?
I think they're in danger of dropping out of the top four this season. I've said that before though and they've ended up fairly comfortably in there at the end of the season.
1.Real don't want to sell
2.We are talking about the current loan deal which has no option to buy
Zouma was outstanding for Stoke. Some of you should really watch more Premier League football.
He was particularly good against us.
I don't care about signing him but some of the comments are just silly.
He was particularly good against us.
I don't care about signing him but some of the comments are just silly.
But Rose is homegrown, no?
If we offered £500 million and the player wanted to come, they'd sell don't you think?
Yes, hence why I bolded the bit about Alderweireld only. They don't need to get rid of Rose and only have 5 homegrown players anyway. His value is only going to continue going down so maybe they think it best to offload now.
He was shit...He will make Smalling look like Baresi!
At the same time we could offer 1000 million or maybe PSG could offer 2000 million.. anything can happen, but as if now, in the current loan agreement, there's no option to buy
The fact we are so desperate for a CB that we'd go for Zouma and try to get Boateng on loan, can't be too much a confidence boost for our current CB's.
I know you're talking about Toby case.
I think they're trying their best for Grealish so they can let Dembele go. However, it's confusing if Rose is going on loan when they're struggling with homegrown quota.
We're going around in circles here. We could buy him if we offered enough.
Seems like you guys are talking about different things, Chelsea can offer whatever they want for him and RM will either accept or not. Option to buy is where basically the selling club are happy for the player to leave and they have a set amount they want as part of the loan deal.
But if he's a success he will cost a shitload more than he would with an option to buy.
Its just bad business.
They don't play in similar positions though do they? Grealish is more of a #10 so would be competing with Dele and Eriksen.
Got to laugh at this point
Of course we've not agreed a transfer fee, the loan deal is basically them sweetening the Courtois deal.
There's no agreed transfer next year (or whenever) but we can buy him if all parties want it to happen. "no option to buy" makes it sound like something totally different.
Yeah, Danny Rose was once considered a £50m player and now he has a last minute deal move on loan to another league barely 18 months later.
Err
If he was "outstanding" why would Stoke have the joint highest goals conceeded in the league?
You only get agreed fees with loans if the selling club wants rid of the player. That's not the case here (which is good because it means he is not shit).
I don't care what our players cost, I'm not buying them.
I don't know what you are talking about mate
This is what I'm talking about, you or anyone else can buy him next year but the current deal is just a loan deal with no option to buy
Not the same but toward the end of last season Poch had tried Alli and Eriksen a little deeper almost as midfielder in some games. Levy is unlikely to lose player for free so if he gets a player in, Dembele likely to be on his way out now.
I don't think either of us understands what the other is trying to say. Lets just leave it.
Fair enough.
We just want to say, that Chelsea has no option to buy and that looks like a fact.
Of course Chelsea (or other clubs) can bid around £100M for him and try to get him. But that's not what we are talking about - Real has everything in their hands
Chelsea might not buy him neither if his performances are too good for you which is a strange situation to be in.
You're doing the work for Madrid. If he fails then no harm done, he didn't slow Real down.
If you get the best out of him then they'll pat you on the head ala Juve / Morata and thank you for your service as they ready Modrics position for him.
I guess the difference is if the selling club put an option to buy as part of the loan deal it indicates that the player is no longer part of their plans going forward and they want rid after the loan spell comes to an end. Tends to happen for players who cost a lot originally and hard to offload if they've had average seasons.
The loan deal thats happening now like you said helps sweeten the Courtois deal, but works out nicely for RM in the sense that they see potential in Kovacic but cant give him the playing time he needs to develop, but dont want to sell him either incase he becomes a world beater. Hence, without a fixed option to buy, if Kovacic has an excellent season then they can have him back next season ready to go into their starting 11, or ask for a significantly higher transfer fee if they do want to sell in the end.
Gotta admit even if it is a loan Chelsea getting Kovacic is annoying.
Not believing for a second that we'd sell Zouma to United or that you're even interested. As for his ability, I think he'd be alright if paired with a ball playing organizer. He can be a physically dominant CB which Mou is known to like.
Don't think he's near United or Chelsea first team level yet. Everton would be a good move for him.
Don't think he's near United or Chelsea first team level yet. Everton would be a good move for him.
That's fine. We'll have had a solid contribution to the side from a player we would not have otherwise had. If he's shite we'll not wave wasted a ton and have someone on huge wages for 4 years.
Chelsea are no strangers to loan players!
I think he's a good player, yes. Would rather go for Pavard or Upamecano though, if it's a young French CB.Anyone reckon some owners/CEOs are taking it upon themselves not to feed the inflated market? fecking PSG and Barca have a lot to answer for.
I like Zouma, it might turn out to be a bargain.
Too be fair it's always been the same really, just that now the talent pool is relatively shallow compared to how it used to be and clubs generally are financially secure now, the power is in the club's hands.
If a player tries to force a move then the club can set the price whereas before it was a case of getting rid as soon as poss.
They have nothing to answer for, the problem is with mid range players that are stupidly overpriced, if you want a culprit look at PL clubs and the most iconic move was for Andy Carroll.
I know our CBs aren't exactly top class but is Smalling, Jones, and Rojo that bad that we seek to bring Kurt Zouma?
He's got the making of a really good player, the injury absolutely stopped his career dead. Fantastic character as well.
I don't want him to leave but it's pretty obvious Sarri does not see him as part of our plans.
Madrid announce Courtois.
Woah, that's umm happened then.
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