Is this where we hand you the I Told You So trophy?
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Is this where we hand you the I Told You So trophy?
The people that care are the ones that have the money...obviously. Its a business, and as you said its being such a big business that got us the money we have now. You want to support a team that recklessly invests then go down the road to LUFC, how are they getting on now by the way?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Since we dont have a right winger (i mean we do but he is 33 y/o right back these days) thats quite achievement.
I liked it how you added Lee Grant to your list just to make a point, what ever it is. And yea, 'we MIGHT need more" to win the title this season.
Chelsea doing good business there. Even kept Hazard and Willian. Morata will have all the service he can get provided he stays on his feet.
Hes obviously not backed. We can't sell players for shit and he's stuck rotating players he would have no interest in otherwise.
Even Pogba doesn't look like a Jose signing judging by what Jose wants from him. I'm starting to lean towards it being commercially driven.
Was Mkhi a Jose signing or were we completing transfers that were agreed to before Jose signed?
How far down the list do these signings come from? Are we signing his 4th / 5th choices?
This Summer has left me with a lot of questions about how we're run.
Leicester needed centre halves regardless of Maguire.
Soyuncu might be a good buy.
We’re fecked. Time to lower our expectations for the season
Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if we finished miles outside the top 4 this season. Could sneak top 4 if each of our strikers hits 30+ goals. We're a team with no right winger and a fragile defence.
For the fans, RW and the fullback positions were the main areas we were hoping for investment, but before the window opened, Mourinho said Young could play 50 games and he wasn't going to sign another attacker after Sanchez which kind of put the dampeners on those but throughout the window some remained convinced we were going to sign a player for RW and LB despite us not having any serious links for any which resulted in a bid.
City conceded the fewest goals but we weren't far behind. The problem is the goals conceded column was helped massively by De Gea.
Saves 2017/18
Top 6 goalkeepers
David De Gea - 37 games - 115 saves - 28 goals conceded - 4.1 saves/goal conceded
Petr Cech - 34 games - 91 saves - 48 goals conceded - 1.9 saves/goal conceded
Hugo Lloris - 36 games - 86 saves - 35 goals conceded - 2.5 saves/goal conceded
Thibaut Courtois - 35 games - 76 saves - 34 goals conceded - 2.2 saves/goal conceded
Ederson - 36 games - 58 saves - 26 goals conceded - 2.2 saves/goal conceded
Simon Mignolet - 19 games - 36 saves - 25 goals conceded - 1.4 saves/goal conceded
Loris Karius - 19 games - 31 saves - 13 goals conceded - 2.4 saves/goal conceded
We can't rely on De Gea to keep bailing us out all the time and I think Mourinho knows this hence why we've been after a third CB in three years.
City and Liverpool are set in attacking areas but we're not set in terms of CBs as the stats are showing.
Even that isn't strictly true. No first teamers have left but a couple of very promising youth talents.
Really think they should give Batshuayi a proper go in the first team.
He always looks dangerous when I've seen him.
Nope, Jose wanted Pogba even when he was at Chelsea. Always admired him. Just even more damning that he's not able to make it work.
Can only see us getting Savic if we concede Pogba to Barca.
I've pre-made a few tweets for any journalists who want in on the united doom narrative. Shit twitter journo types should contact me to negotiate prices for the following
"United not necessarily finished in the market yet two possible deals may still happen"
"United still exploring possible CBs and a RW but may have left it too late to get deals the over the line"
"Problem for United at the moment is that players do want to join but there's not enough time for their current clubs to find replacements making deals difficult"
"United not necessarily finished in the market yet two possible deals may still happen"
"United still exploring possible CBs and a RW but may have left it too late to get deals the over the line"
"Problem for United at the moment is that players do want to join but there's not enough time for their current clubs to find replacements making deals difficult"
Matic
Lukaku
Ibra
Bailly
Mkhi and Lindelof are the only two you could say were poor. But one helped us get Arsenal's best player and the other is still very young and had a great world cup.
If each of our strikers hit 30+ goals we would very likely be champions.
Still early to say on Bailly. Good first season but got benched during the second so hasn't been an 'unquestionable success' so far like Baxter said.
You make valid point about Bailly, but when judging Mourinho nobody will care about his previous history, he has failed to establish himself as of yet, which pisses me off as well. Lindelof has been anything but success, and there should be no excuses about other options or lack of funds, when players like Skriniar and Maguire moved clubs in the same summer for half the price. Maybe we should pick our targets better and stop blaming the money men? We've not been good enough in the transfer market, and that needs improving.Bailly is. He didn't even have a history of injuries when he joined us so where the hell did that cone from
I'd say Lindelof is a success for 30m. If he joined Everton and played like that he would be considered a big success IMO.
30m is really nothing as we're seeing this summer, we sold Blind for 20m ffs.
I'm starting to think we bought Lindelof due to lack of funds available. He could be our only CB signing in two years and it was between he and Keane who went for 25 (?) Million. Maybe that's just where the board sets the limits on defensive recruits?
If its this hard to sign a CB i would hare to see our budget if we did sign Sandro.
I think he had serious fitness issues last season. Players take time to recover from surgeries.
I thought Matic’s formed dipped as the season went on, but also thought he was overplayed.
For the money, I’d expect more that 16 league goals from Lukaku.
Bailly is never fit, and when he was, he wasn’t in the team the second half of last season.
Zlatan is the only one who I think lived up to, or surpassed expectations.
You need to consider being backed in terms of each position imo, there was a lot of holes to be filled and obvious replacements to be made (Rooney/Schneiderlin for instance) due to deadwood or retiring players.
We haven't done that process to completion as quite clearly there's weaknesses that haven't been addressed for years so i don't think he has been sufficiently backed. Our rate to get up to speed was a few first team signings per summer and this summer we've not delivered on that.
So it looks like our summer will end with us having brought in Kepa, Jorginho, and Kovacic. Just as importantly, we'll have kept our two best players in Kante and Hazard. That's a huge upgrade in our midfield and potentially at keeper considering Kepa fits the mould of a Sarri keeper better than Tibo did.
Overall good transfer business. Biggest question now and what our season hinges on is whether the considerable upgrade in the middle of the pitch will make up for our relative weakness up top.
Overall good transfer business. Biggest question now and what our season hinges on is whether the considerable upgrade in the middle of the pitch will make up for our relative weakness up top.
He would gives us the option of selling Pogba, IF we got a good enough bid from somewhere. We could keep both and it still wouldn't be a problem.
Maybe Herrera would be the one sold to Bilbao.
I don't rate him that much though.
But thats two names, that's stupidly specific since there are always transfers like that every summer.
We just can't have a summer like this and have a meltdown if City are above us by Christmas. Even Liverpool realise they need to open up to catch City while we're happy to chug along.
That's the difference. We're up against City who do not give a feck if their defensive targets flop. They just go out next time and get it right. Combine that with a better manager and what do we expect? Can we compete against that by signing Maguire from Hull in case he comes good? Or hold Jose's feet to the fire because he signed a 30m player two years ago so that should be that?
Aye, wanted to scout him, himself first.
Think you'll do fine if team adapts quickly to Sarri's style of play.
Imagine watching our squad last season and not realizing we needed a LB, RB, and a RW. I'm convinced Mourinho has been told to get top 4 this year with what he has or he's gone and if it's roses with the squad next summer they'll actually spend.
Also it's weird that we suddenly stopped spending obscene amounts (City too honestly). Maybe the transfer bubble is about to burst and we don't want to be fecked financially or something. Damn I'm clutching at straws.
Also it's weird that we suddenly stopped spending obscene amounts (City too honestly). Maybe the transfer bubble is about to burst and we don't want to be fecked financially or something. Damn I'm clutching at straws.
looks like United either not gonna sign anyone or get bullied and pay way more than should be paid for player X, at this point tho I don't care anymore. Pay whatever and improve the squad. Seems like it's gonna be Maguire, which is a solid signing. Would be exceptional if RW comes along and Mata goes to Inter. (Well one can dream)
I get with Mina, he looks like a Colombian Chris Smalling to me. However, Maguire and Alderweireld are top quality talents who would improve us massively in the CB department so we should pay what we need to pay.
Painful to watch
I dont know what your expectations were, but i still expect us to reach top 4 and reach the knockout stages of the CL, quite similar to last season (maybe not second place in the league) unless Jose has a complete meltdown. But we wont be close to winning a significant title
There wasn't a single player worth spending obscene amounts on this summer imo. City and Us did well and dodged a few bullets here and there.
I still think we should've signed a backup/first choice LB and some RW.
As I said you make valid points, and you are right about others around us strengthening. But I feel the story doesn't start and end here, and it's not about being backed, I think Jose has been backed, but there is obviously a rupture in picking the targets or even the positions we need strengthening. Why are we even chasing a CB when we have such glaring holes in the starting 11? Is that on Jose? I think yes. By all accounts we are chasing a CB the whole summer while we don't have a single RW in the squad. That's me of course understanding that Jose thinks CB is priority and not other position, but we don't know that as a fact.
I have a genuine question. If we haven't made offers or approaches for Maguire or Toby, then how do we know what the price is? Is it just through the agent feeding the information, and if so, can you really believe that Levy is giving the agent that figure?
Wow. Shows how different opinions can be. I'd say Ibra was the only one who was questionable. Missed about 20 chances a game then spent entire season injured. Bailly has injury issues but clearly a top defender and only cost 30m .
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