Anything above £40 million for Willian is a massive rip off.
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Anything above £40 million for Willian is a massive rip off.
Agreed.
Buy him for 60/70 million now, keep him for 2 seasons that gives Chong time to get ready, and then sell him to China for 40 million. Easy.
Would it be better for us not to sign a right winger at all? Or which proved player would you rather us sign for that money?
Chong is very highly rated as a traditional winger. I think someone of the age profile of Willian is actually quite good to allow Chong to work in a lower pressure environment till he is ready in his twenties.
Hope it's true it'll fill a big whole in our squad. I'm not really sure why anyone would be against it from a fan point of view.
Tuttosport isn't the least bit reliable. One of those zoo animals that picked World Cup winners is more reliable than Tuttosport.
Willian will 100% happen with Toby A is my bet.
Premier league proven & ready to hit the ground running.
Fully expect a willian/martial swap with some cash thrown our way. Maybe 10m?
Premier league proven & ready to hit the ground running.
Fully expect a willian/martial swap with some cash thrown our way. Maybe 10m?
Yep, the last thing we need is another Rashford / Martial situation.
Please be true.
Willian has impressed me the last couple of years.
Yes it's too much but everyone is going to be these days.
Better than not having a single answer for the position next season.
Yes it's too much but everyone is going to be these days.
Better than not having a single answer for the position next season.
Cue the meltdown over the price
£75m for Willian and £65m for Maguire. If you believe the media we're spunking close to £140-odd millions in the last two weeks of the transfer window and over £210m this summer alone.
I smell fish.
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I preferred Mahrez but at this point it would be stupid to reject Willian.
Is he really a top class player?
He's incredibly inconsistent.
He's incredibly inconsistent.
Thats it exactly. There are a good few other players we would have all preferred, and for whatever reason Jose does not want, but we need something on the RW badly so it really doesn't matter at this stage what the cost is. We don't have the luxury anymore of taking the moral high ground when it comes to overpaying for filling the gaping hole at RW.
Buy him for £30m and sell him for more than double without him improving markedly since then. That is ridiculous business. Which of course means our board won't do it...
Willian is turning 30 in no time. What? Please no! 75 million for 30 year old??? NO!!
I don't really know what people want if we aren't signing Willian. We could sign some promising youngster for 30-40m but Willian has been IMV a top class player in the Prem for years now. He's defensively sound, he's used to working with Jose, he's got great dribbling ability, he's quick in transition, got a great shot on him and good at set pieces (and we all know they've been a bit of a nightmare for us). For me it's an absolute no brainer.
If this is true then it's a pretty obvious indication that the board is backing Jose and believes in his approach.
Does he have to be? I mean it would be great if every player we signed was world class but that isn't the reality of top clubs. We have quite a few top class players already, arguably suffering from structural issues that Willian would help fix. The signing of Valencia and his effect should be a memorable example of this.
It's mad money for Willian, but everything is mad right now and since it ain't my money and we've needed someone to play on the right for fecking years, I'll take him gladly.
How reliable is sport witness?
It's like a nightmare, Mourinho gets what he wants, aging wide player grafters flanking a giant striker, and in this case paying twice what a mediocre winger is worth, you could get Pulisic for that money, a player with a lot more talent and actual room to become world class, something Willain never was and never will be, this is just throwing money away that we can never recoup and it wont change a thing in regards to City still easily winning the PL.
forget about the money, it's a decent signing. I was just hoping you wouldn't purchase anyone for your right side
Willian and Maguire then. Doubt Tuttosport have a clue about our transfer dealings
I'm not exactly over the moon with the idea of paying 75m for a nearly 30 year old winger, however has anyone else considered that he may also be signed to help Fred settle in faster, Fred doesn't speak English, Willian does a little bit, so until the communication skills develop then it could help to have more Portuguese speakers around him. Oh would you look at that, what nationality is our new RB, Portuguese; Where did Matic play before Chelsea, Portugal. I know its a longshot but it could be a consideration.
Why would the club sanction a deal for Willian when they refused to do so for Perisic on the basis of cost vs age?
You have to agree that the fee looks pretty outrageous though. He's a 30yo winger, how many players are still wingers at say 33? Are there any?
We paid 40m for Matic at 29 and people baulked at it. And that's a position that doesn't rely a lot on legs and pace, Matic could play DM 'till 34-35 years of age if he goes the Carrick way. £75m for 2-3 years shelf life, sounds pretty risky business.
City signed a 27yo Mahrez for 60m and he's been arguably better than Willian in the last 3 years. We just seem to very often overpay or buy duds. Which is highly frustrating and makes it difficult to catch up to City who have a better squad and more funds at their disposal.
One thing is for sure, if we do end up paying close to £150m for Maguire and Willian (wtf) no one can make excuses for Jose anymore.
Inter tried to get Martial on Loan as well. They were basically taking the piss. Also Willian is most likely at the top of the list, as we tried to get him when Mourinho first came to Chelsea.
For me they are two completely different deals. 70m-ish for Maguire is ludicrous IMV. Willian is a proven top class player and there's hardly any players of similar quality available for a position we are desperate to recruit for. Buying directly from a rival. With Maguire he's a good English centre half playing for a mid-table club and no one else on the planet would spend 70m for him. There are also more options around for less money.
Edit: Add to that that Maguire means we won't sign a top class defender for a while, whereas buying Willian now allows for Chong's development and a lane into the first team. The two deals are so different logically.
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Yes please.
It's not my money so I'm not bothered paying over the odds.
Let Liverpool fans worry about the Net Spend League.
It's not my money so I'm not bothered paying over the odds.
Let Liverpool fans worry about the Net Spend League.
Willian was first choice target for Barcelona. Forgetting about the price, the quality is undoubtable.
Truly baffling why people care about prices when its not there own money.
For that price, for the stage he is in his career. Hell yeah.
Hope its true. Couldnt care less about the price. I just want a player who will improve this squad and want him now.
This is a very good point.
Maybe we should be listening to the Chelsea fans on Willian, they want rid of him and are upset Chelsea turned down £50-55m from Barcelona. He has his moments but too inconsistent for my liking.
Did anyone actually read the article or do you lot just read the tweet and commence whining over a Tuttosport claim ?
Barcelona also thought Andre Gomes would replace Iniesta... They've signed Yerry Mina, Paulinho, Nelsen Semedo this year only to realize they're not quality or just not what they want. Don't forget Paco Alcacer in recent times. Only time will tell how useful the 120m on Dembele will prove to be.
You also fail to notice how they thought the price was horrible and backed off.
You also fail to notice how they thought the price was horrible and backed off.
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