We're surely letting one go if we're getting Maguire.
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How much time do you want him to have, he has had three years and his initial few months were far better than what he did before signing Sanchez. Lets not forget Sanchez is one of the best left wingers in the world that we signed, even though he obviously hasnt performed like it so far. I really dont think Martial is a left winger anyway, I think he can develop into a very good striker, his best spell was up front under LVG in my opinion when he first came. And you have hit the nail on the head, he wont get the oportunities with Lukaku in front of him to develop into a top striker. For that reason he is right to want to leave, and he doesnt hold so much value to us as I would put Rashford ahead of him on the left too. It is a shame as personally I dont rate Lukaku as highly as most and I do think Martial can become a top player but he hasnt done anything special consistantly here if three or four years and there are plenty of other top talents about, lets not forget France have Dembele and Coman for example of a similar age who I think are more developed and more talented. He wants to go if the press is to be believed, why on earth should we stand in his way for £60-70m considering what he has done so far?
Although I agree with you, Rashford's case is a bit different. He seems way more determined to progress and seems more confident than Martial. Also he appears to listen and follow coaches' instructions. I am not saying Rashford will thrive under Jose, rather he'll outlast him and, fingers crossed, when Mourinho leaves the board will appoint manager, who cares not only for the end result, but for the way we get the result.
On top of being a very good defender, IMO he's more footballing intelligent than Smalling, Rojo, Jones and even Bailly. He can bring the ball out of defence without giving it away better than those four and is a danger from set pieces which only Smalling managed to achieve last season.
I'd happily ship out Rojo and Jones to make room for Maguire.
I'd happily ship out Rojo and Jones to make room for Maguire.
I agree, though I would rather he went abroad personally. Sure I saw his club say they wanted to keep Werner for another season and think he would cost a lot of money. I think ironically I would like to see a MArtial type signing as a gamble up front, somebody like Lincoln of Brazil for example. Probably £30m odd with the potential to be a top player and challenge Lukaku and if it doesnt work out we may have Greenwood coming thorugh in a couple of years anyway
Mahrez was a luxury signing for City. Leicester have us bent over a barrel knowing we desperately need a CB with a couple of weeks left in the window.
Juve’s asking price for Alex Sandro is too high for PSG
Do you desperately need a CB though? Mourinho's pretty good at improving CB's and you've been pretty solid at the back under him.
PSG's back four if they get Sandro might be
Dani Alves-- Marquinhos--T.Silva--Sandro
Dani Alves-- Marquinhos--T.Silva--Sandro
Precisely. Its not a massive priority for us. Unless of course we lose one of them (like Rojo)
SOme slating the board, I know some of the fees are crazy and this is just rumour. But if Leicester can turn down £65m for McGuire we should definately walk away. Though I think he is a decent defender and an improvement on what we have, he isnt top drawer. I would rather spend £30m on Bonucci as a short term option or break the bank for someone like Khoubillay or Upemecano to actually solve our problem. Think McGuire improves rather than solves
We don't do RAWK style fan fiction round here.
Defensively we're okay.
We need someone to play out from the back though. Having our midfielders drop to collect the ball is really hurting our possession play and making it harder to provoke lesser sides that sit in a deep block against us.
Crazy isn’t it? Every summer £15m gets added on to the price of the average player. I guess it also ties in to the Premier League money being distributed. How could Leicester ever turn down £65m for this guy. He’s a good player but to my mind he’s worth about £30m in this market. Leicester should be falling over themselves to get £65m for him, but nope. When Everton have to pay £50m for Richarlison it shows how skewed the market is. This mainly benefits the super rich clubs who can easily buy a first XI full of £50-60m players.
He pretty much is. And not a bad one by any means, definately better than what we have. But if we are talking £70m+ from that bit of press, surely there are better players, which is no offence to McGuire at all. English premium and a decent English centre back is no bad thing but wow £70m+
Well said! I think him and smalling would be a colossus combination at the back! Sign him up!
I think he means 65 plus add ons
Maguire yet everyone spelling McGuire, I was confused and had to google who he is.
Should be letting 3 go if you ask me at least
Personally hope this is a ruse to force Spurs' hand on Alderweireld. I agree he is probably an improvement and not a bad player but I think we need something better than that.
Got to be. Even if we're planning on going three at the back.
I disagree. Our current style of play is so negative and defensive because of the quality of our centre backs. All of them need protection. A quality centre back would allow Pogba more freedom, and I think our football would become a lot more coherent.
You can see just from the World Cup how bad some of our defenders are. Rojo and Jones were pretty terrible for Argentina and England. Smalling didn't even make the cut, and although Lindelof played well, he was playing in a very defensive system.
Alderweireld would be perfect for us. Not too sure about Maguire though, as we need a more experienced player to bring the best out of Bailly, who I think is our best defender currently.
We need to sell Jones or Rojo to Everton as they seem to have more money than than sense.
A lot of people would say 'so do we'.
He's an attacker not a wingback.
Everton are a different type of madness Bolaise, Gylfi and richarlison for 130mil. They have outdone us tbh
I don't really view the world cup as some sort accurate indicator of how good a player is. Our fundamental problem is a lack of goals (38 less than City last year) and a new CB isn't going to resolve that.
I believe they want a smooth customer at the back with the ball at their feet. Not necessarily the experienced head the media thinks United need and want. Maguire would not be someone with a lot or even any top level experience. At 25 he's never played in the CL, and was only in his second PL season. That's less top level experience than someone at 24 in Romagnoli or Jimenez.
What does make sense is his profile. Not necessarily the fastest, but extremely confident and smooth at dribbling and bringing the ball out of the defense and breaking opposition lines. He's also got some beuatiful long passing skills. What dropped for him at the World Cup was being paired with actual competent defenders also fluent with a passing style.
If at 65m £ Leicester are silly enough to say no, United might as well take the risk City took on the likes of Laporte and Stones and get a player like De Ligt or Upamecano.
De Ligt in particular is extremely confident on the ball and has taken it to a different level with Ajax this past season. Think he's definitely better than what Stones was when City signed for 50m. Add that with the experience he's had with the NT and Europe he's a prospect who could make a difference immediately.
That's assuming Bonucci and Godin are impossible at this point.
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This is cause they only say there is 4 mil for the club and probably 20 more for his dad and the president
Another RB who would massively improve us out of the game.
We were in a title race?
I'm still shocked we're not pursuing a LB but thinking of adding a 7th CB to our roster. Surely Mourinho will be told he has to sell a couple of CBs before buying!
Leicester will take us to the cleaners for McGuire. Don't know enough about the player but for the figures being mentioned we need a top top CB so hopefully he's that.
Please let it be Jones. Can't stand that guy. Awful footballer.
The thing is, though you get the odd crazy fee in every league, premiership fees are on a different level, especially within our own league. When you see some of the deals the likes of DOrtmund and Liepzig have down for really good young talents you have to wonder why some of these fees are happening. Take Martial, Monaco get offered up to £50m for a talented player with little first team experience....and they have Mbappe coming through. Dortmund pay £4.5m for an Englishman Sancho.
Exactly, our problem is we need to score more, not concede less.
As for those saying we need someone who can play it out of the back well we had a player who could do exactly that, his name was Blind and he never played last season and has just been sold, so I don't think Jose is looking for a ball playing CB seeing as he never played that system at all and got rid of the player who could play in that system.
I think Jose is hoping that a midfield 3 of Matic, Pogba, and Fred will finally allow Pogba the freedom to get forward and supplement our attack.
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