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Sanche7 said:
Not to mention there will be another transition under a new manager. There are no top class managers available so we would most probably go for a youngish one who could take time to adapt
Don't know why people want Jose to fail so bad
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Frankly, neither do I.

I guess he has always been a divisive figure. Not many people in football are neutral about him.
 
We can sell Jones and Rojo to recoup some of that cost. Maguire and Tuanzebe can replace them
 
AltiUn said:
£65m, that's staggering. I wonder if we'll actually get it done though, would Leicester really be content with losing one of their best players weeks before the window closes?
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For that money they couldn't possibly say no. It's a great deal for them.
 
Infra-red said:
For that money they couldn't possibly say no. It's a great deal for them.
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You're right, I don't see his value getting any higher than it is right now: won their player of the season, on a long term contract, coming off the back of a good world cup.
 
In one paragraph they "understand" United value him at £65m. Then a couple of paragraphs later they say they have been told he is not for sale and will not be leaving this window.

So, they're saying we're the ones putting that value on him?
 
Mainoldo said:
Okay who’s played to Manchester United standards since Mourinho has been here? I only have DDG. We can talk about Martial all we like but he’s not doing not different to anyone else.
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It's not just about performances, it's about putting in a shift both on the pitch and in training. Mourinho prefers Young as he goes about his work professionally and is (generally) consistent, even if his potential level isn't as high as some of our other more inconsistent players.

Attitude is clearly very important to Mourinho, which is one of the reasons he likes to go for players that he is already familiar with.
 
Ekeke said:
With a £65 million CB we must be expected to win the league too, just like Liverpool, right Jose?
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We can't ignore the ridiculous inflated prices most teams are paying for players lately. Also, what's to say the transfer fee Leicester were looking for hasn't doubled since the WC. There were rumors running we had interest early..wouldn't surprise me if Woody was waiting for England to flop at the tournament again to drive the price down
 
Dr. StrangeHate said:
Horrible football simples. Even the best case scenario under Mourinho means horrible football, older players. Few trophies yes but not the league as a guardiola in full flow is almost impossible to beat.
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That's very subjective. Football is like food or music. Some like them hot, some like them cold. Some like them spicy, some can't stand spicy. It's often about what you like as an individual.
Moreover, I don't think Jose's best football is horrible. It is certainly not as sexy as Guardiola's but it's not horrible. I have watched his Porto, Chelsea, Inter and Madrid teams at various times. It's organised, solid and breath taking on the counter. Yes, it is overly defensive against teams perceived as significantly superior or when leading in knock out games but overall, it is devastating against teams that leave their rare open while seeking to exploit Jose's teams. I still don't think we have seen the bet of Jose's football at United. That's why I will like him to be given the players he wants. If after then, he still fails to deliver, then one can conclude he is past it.
 
bonsaiboy said:
It's not just about performances, it's about putting in a shift both on the pitch and in training. Mourinho prefers Young as he goes about his work professionally and is (generally) consistent, even if his potential level isn't as high as some of our other more inconsistent players.

Attitude is clearly very important to Mourinho, which is one of the reasons he likes to go for players that he is already familiar with.
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Since when has putting a shift in mattered to us? We had Christiano Ronaldo, we didn’t worry about him putting a shift in we just wanted end product at the highest level. Not someone who puts a shift in but can’t cross a ball because their too busy chasing the opposition. The mentality is all wrong at the minute.
 
Mainoldo said:
It’s simply the coach! Obviously Mourinho’s a winner but I think some are abit naive to think it’s a Martial problem and then assume Rashford will have a better mentality to make where Martial has failed. Rashford will fail too under Mourinho. He doesn’t want to be the player Mourinho wants him to be.
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Although I agree with you, Rashford's case is a bit different. He seems way more determined to progress and seems more confident than Martial. Also he appears to listen and follow coaches' instructions. I am not saying Rashford will thrive under Jose, rather he'll outlast him and, fingers crossed, when Mourinho leaves the board will appoint manager, who cares not only for the end result, but for the way we get the result.
 
AltiUn said:
You're right, I don't see his value getting any higher than it is right now: won their player of the season, on a long term contract, coming off the back of a good world cup.
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A sale value won't get higher, but if they think they'll get relegated without him, then he is worth more than 65m. Don't forget they've already lost one key player in Mahrez.
 
Mainoldo said:
Since when has putting a shift in mattered to us? We had Christiano Ronaldo, we didn’t worry about him putting a shift in we just wanted end product at the highest level. Not someone who puts a shift in but can’t cross a ball because their too busy chasing the opposition. The mentality is all wrong at the minute.
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I'm pretty sure Ronaldo was putting in shifts during training - wasn't he the first one to get there and the last to leave?
 
If VVD is £75m then i think £65m for Maguire isn’t too horrendously over-valued, considering Maguires a better defender too.
 
Maguire would be a great signing IMO. Will allow us to play back 3, give us aerial presence in both boxes and looks a natural leader to me.
We still need at least one forward when sulker Martial inevitably leaves. However i do not think the board want to invest 60/70 million in 29 year old Willian.
 
Traub said:
I'm pretty sure Ronaldo was putting in shifts during training - wasn't he the first one to get there and the last to leave?
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Oh it’s Martial the last one to get their and the first to leave. I take that back. Didn’t realise he was such a bad trainer.
 
If we have indeed enquired for Maguire why leave it until now if we really wanted him? I wouldn't be against signing him but this just highlights that we have a complete scattergun approach to transfers these days.
 
yamo123x said:
Maguire would be a great signing IMO. Will allow us to play back 3, give us aerial presence in both boxes and looks a natural leader to me.
We still need at least one forward when sulker Martial inevitably leaves. However i do not think the board want to invest 60/70 million in 29 year old Willian.
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Sorry, I thought you were describing Smalling.
 
roonster09 said:
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Harry Maguire.

23rd December 2017.

We were trying to cut the gap between us and City.

We were 2-1 up against 10 man Leicester City.

94th minute. The game was almost won.

And then wham! Mr. Big head scores against us! Hearts broken. That was the day the title race was as good as over.

And it was the day I really started to first notice Maguire.

Sign him up!
 
For me Maguire is a solid CB.

BUT he has been massively overrated as a result of the world cup.

He's an improvement on Smalling and Jones, for sure.

But surely we can find better for cheaper?
 
Sterling Archer said:
We can't ignore the ridiculous inflated prices most teams are paying for players lately. Also, what's to say the transfer fee Leicester were looking for hasn't doubled since the WC. There were rumors running we had interest early..wouldn't surprise me if Woody was waiting for England to flop at the tournament again to drive the price down
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Yes people are paying inflated prices, but paying double a players value is something else
 
bonsaiboy said:
Martial has been very inconsistent, and it's clear (to me at least!) that he isn't particularly mentally strong. We saw it when he had a form dip when he had personal issues, and we've seen it when he's been dropped. Given the opportunity to come on as substitute and impress, he's often shown very little interest in fighting for his place. He strongly dislikes being played out of position, and appears to feel that he should be starting matches in his preferred role. I'm all for a bit of arrogance but it has to be backed up with performances.

You also have to remember that we only ever see the squad looking from the outside in. Mourinho and his team work with these players every day; they know what's going on in their lives, their work ethic, and you can bet that they aren't just letting players stew without talking to them. Neither will they be best mates, but we get this impression of an impersonal relationship between manager and players because of how Mourinho speaks of them in public. If Martial isn't playing regularly, it's not because Mourinho thinks that Sanchez is better than him, it's because what he's seen from Sanchez in training and in the opportunities he's been given in matches ticks the boxes. The same can be said for Luke Shaw: we all know how much potential he had, and how exciting he was as a player before his injury. What we haven't seen is why he's been inconsistently picked for the team, and a lot of that will be based on his attitude toward training and his performances on the field. Mourinho clearly sees Young as more consistent and dedicated, even if his raw talent doesn't match.

I think that unless Martial is able to get his head straight - and it may well be too far gone here - then he's better off at another club. One where he's a guaranteed starter in his preferred position, and where he can be the star. Until that happens I'm not convinced that he'll grow enough to be able to deal with being at a big club, fighting for his place.
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I can agree that Martial has been inconsistent, especially when he's been substituted. But you can also say that Mourinho has been inconsistent in his usage of Martial. Not playing that much in the 16/17 season, when he seemed to prefer Rashford, and get instantly dropped when Sanchez came in hasn't helped his confidence either.

I can also agree that his attitude isn't the best, but I think it seems to him like whatever he does it's not good enough for Mourinho. Being voted PoTM in January only to be instantly dropped for Sanchez can be really harsh on someones confidence.

I personally think Martial has more to show, but just needs a bit of help to get on the right track. Wether that will be in a United shirt or not, I'm really uncertain of. Especially under Mourinho.

I get that a lot of people complain about his attitude, but we've done little to help him. Going from a sure starter, to losing your starting spot and shirt number, to fighting your way back into the team, only to be dropped out by another new signing who really didn't perform any better. He has been up and down in the United shirt, but we've surely helped that happen.
 
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