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If we signed Alderweireld and Willian would the caf be happy?

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Valencia-----------Alderweireld----Smalling/Bailly------Shaw
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Willian-------------------Lukaku------------------------Sanchez

Possible Subs: Romero, Dalot, Lindelof, Lingard, Fellaini, Martial, Rashford, Young, McTominay
 
Frank Grimes said:
If we signed Alderweireld and Willian would the caf be happy?

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Valencia-----------Alderweireld----Smalling/Bailly------Shaw
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-----------------------Fred------Pogba-------------------------
Willian-------------------Lukaku------------------------Sanchez

Possible Subs: Romero, Dalot, Lindelof, Lingard, Fellaini, Martial, Rashford, Young, McTominay
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No, they are both 36 years old. Mourinho out.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
So?

SAF thought Moyes would be a good successor to him. Even the best managers and clubs can get it wrong.
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:lol:

Chelsea signed him. He starts for Brazil at the world cup. Barca and United want him. Yep, Caf is right, Willian is not good enough.
 
I can’t understand William. Every time I watch him he looks class, he’s won titles with Chelsea and starts for Brazil - yet everyone thinks he’s rubbish? Weird one.
 
TheReligion said:
So Arsenal got a better deal than United? Utter nonsense. Alexis is worth triple Mkhitaryan and we didn't pay a penny. Cracking business by united. To argue otherwise would be dense.

And I don't think their performances have been all that different. Mkhitaryan has hardly set the world alight has he?
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I said in that post that I disagreed that Arsenal got the better deal. As for the bit in bold, it hasn't translated to the pitch yet.

Alexis Sanchez stats for United: 3 goals, 5 assists in 1541 minutes
Henrikh Mkhitaryan stats for Arsenal: 3 goals, 6 assists in 1212 minutes

Their stats are actually fairly similar but you can't honestly say that Alexis has surpassed or even met your expectations since he came in. I hope he does this season but for me I think we would have had a better end to last season without him. That is something for another thread though.
 
Damien said:
I said in that post that I disagreed that Arsenal got the better deal. As for the bit in bold, it hasn't translated to the pitch yet.

Alexis Sanchez stats for United: 3 goals, 5 assists in 1541 minutes
Henrikh Mkhitaryan stats for Arsenal: 3 goals, 6 assists in 1212 minutes

Their stats are actually fairly similar but you can't honestly say that Alexis has surpassed or even met your expectations since he came in. I hope he does this season but for me I think we would have had a better end to last season without him. That is something for another thread though.
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Alexis contribution against City alone is worth more than anything Mkhi has done at Arsenal.
 
van der star said:
His worth hasn't translated to performances on the pitch, though. They've both played at a comparable level thus far. Alexis might be the superior player and worth a lot more but it doesn't mean much until he delivers on the pitch.
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We were talking about who did the best business in the deal. United got the most valuable asset.
 
Damien said:
I said in that post that I disagreed that Arsenal got the better deal. As for the bit in bold, it hasn't translated to the pitch yet.

Alexis Sanchez stats for United: 3 goals, 5 assists in 1541 minutes
Henrikh Mkhitaryan stats for Arsenal: 3 goals, 6 assists in 1212 minutes

Their stats are actually fairly similar but you can't honestly say that Alexis has surpassed or even met your expectations since he came in. I hope he does this season but for me I think we would have had a better end to last season without him. That is something for another thread though.
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@Klopper76...

Yeah I agree Damo however Glaston and I were talking about United getting value in transfer deals out of the club and I think getting Sanchez in place of Mkhitaryan can't be seen as anything but very good business.
 
haram said:
:lol:

Chelsea signed him. He starts for Brazil at the world cup. Barca and United want him. Yep, Caf is right, Willian is not good enough.
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Doesn't matter if he's good enough or not, but your previous point is flawed. Just because a position of expertise deems something that way, doesn't mean it's inarguable.

And he was pretty poor for Brazil at the WC bar the Mexico game.

The cafe thinking Willian is not good enough shouldn't be taken at face value either. He's good enough to get in the team right now, but perhaps not good enough for the level most of us aspire the team to be.
 
TheReligion said:
:lol:

Got to be a joke right?

Edit: you can't seriously be trying to argue that getting a player who is worth at least £80+ million in a swap with Mkhitaryan isn't good business? Their performances have been near identical statistically and both have only been at their new club's a few months.
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Of course not. Since moving clubs it’s clear that Mkhitaryan has performed better than Sanchez has.

That’s not to say that it’s guaranteed that Mkhitaryan has a better season this season, but I’ll go ahead and stick my neck on the line by saying that I think he will. I don’t think Sanchez fits into what Mourinho wants (or he hasn’t found a way to fit Sanchez in yet). It was noticeable from the games I saw that once Sanchez came in you looked more disjointed going forward.

Edit: I should add that I do think Sanchez is the better player, with far more ability than Mkhitaryan has.
 
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Eddy_JukeZ said:
Doesn't mean if he's good enough or not, but your previous point is flawed. Just because a position of expertise deems something that way, doesn't mean it's inarguable.

And he was pretty poor for Brazil at the WC bar the Mexico game.

The cafe thinking Willian is not good enough shouldn't be taken at face value either. He's good enough to get in the team right now, but perhaps not good enough for the level most of us aspire the team to be.
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He was good enough for a Chelsea side winning league titles and and is being targeting by a Barca side that has just won La Liga. I'm sorry but I've seen this before with Lukaku and Matic on here. The Caf going against the opinion of Barca and United, they are very likely to be wrong.
 
Damien said:
I said in that post that I disagreed that Arsenal got the better deal. As for the bit in bold, it hasn't translated to the pitch yet.

Alexis Sanchez stats for United: 3 goals, 5 assists in 1541 minutes
Henrikh Mkhitaryan stats for Arsenal: 3 goals, 6 assists in 1212 minutes

Their stats are actually fairly similar but you can't honestly say that Alexis has surpassed or even met your expectations since he came in. I hope he does this season but for me I think we would have had a better end to last season without him. That is something for another thread though.
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So a similar output despite Sanchez playing over 300 minutes more?
 
haram said:
He was good enough for a Chelsea side winning league titles and and is being targeting by a Barca side that has just won La Liga. I'm sorry but I've seen this before with Lukaku and Matic on here. The Caf going against the opinion of Barca and United, they are very likely to be wrong.
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Barcelona had Paulinho starting a good amount and still winning La Liga at a canter - They've made questionable transfers lately too. Using them as a basis isn't flawless.

But the point isn't him being good enough or not(and again that shouldn't be taken literally).
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Barcelona had Paulinho starting a good amount and still winning La Liga at a canter - They've made questionable transfers lately too. Using them as a basis isn't flawless.

But the point isn't him being good enough or not(and again that shouldn't be taken literally).
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Paulinho was good for Barca though?
 
haram said:
Barca and United want Chelsea player Willian but Caf thinks it knows better...
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Barca also got Paulinho who starred for Brazil this world cup. Would you be happy with us targetting him for 50 million pounds?
 
NK86 said:
Barca also got Paulinho who starred for Brazil this world cup. Would you be happy with us targetting him for 50 million pounds?
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No, I would not say every player Barca sign would automatically be good enough. If a bunch of people on an internet forum said Fred who was chased heavily by City and United was not good enough however, I really wouldn't listen to them.
 
Damien said:
He's not wrong that Mkhitaryan has performed better for them than Alexis for us so far. Doesn't mean it is the better deal though - depends how things go this season.
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No, he didn't. He got bunch of assists when they smashed Everton, apart from that he was as bad as he was for us.

Sanchez wasn't good for us too, at least he performed in big games like win against City and Spurs in cup finals.

Like you said, this season will prove who got better deal though. For me Sanchez might be frustrating player, but he never hides. I have no doubt Sanchez will be huge hit for us.
 
haram said:
No, I would not say every player Barca sign would automatically be good enough. If a bunch of people on an internet forum said Fred who was chased heavily by City and United was not good enough however, I really wouldn't listen to them.
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I agree but then why get so defensive when people offer their opinion on Willian. Most on here have seen Willian more regularly than you have seen Fred, yet you automatically want to dismiss their views out of hand based on Barca and United wanting him - two clubs whose transfer policy hasn't been the most astute over the last few years. For many, including me, Willian is closer to a Paulinho transfer rather than a Sanchez one especially at the prices being quoted.

Even a Chelsea fan says he doesn't consider Willian to be a 50 mil pound player.
 
NK86 said:
I agree but then why get so defensive when people offer their opinion on Willian. Most on here have seen Willian more regularly than you have seen Fred, yet you automatically want to dismiss their views out of hand based on Barca and United wanting him - two clubs whose transfer policy hasn't been the most astute over the last few years. For many, including me, Willian is closer to a Paulinho transfer rather than a Sanchez one especially at the prices being quoted.

Even a Chelsea fan says he doesn't consider Willian to be a 50 mil pound player.
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You miss out the part where I have seen Willian play as well. Also, people think Willian is not good enough period. I find it funny because the same thing happened with Matic, Lukaku and Perisic. Caf knows best though. I'm done with this tbh, this is the transfer tweet thread.
 
NK86 said:
I agree but then why get so defensive when people offer their opinion on Willian. Most on here have seen Willian more regularly than you have seen Fred, yet you automatically want to dismiss their views out of hand based on Barca and United wanting him - two clubs whose transfer policy hasn't been the most astute over the last few years. For many, including me, Willian is closer to a Paulinho transfer rather than a Sanchez one especially at the prices being quoted.

Even a Chelsea fan says he doesn't consider Willian to be a 50 mil pound player.
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Mostly because people don't give credit where it's due . Willian is a excellent player and mainly due to the fact that he's 29 people automatically reject and hurl comments about him . Bale would be amazing tier A signing for us . But with the situation at Madrid, we won't be getting him any sooner . When looking at other options Willian suits the bill for us. Cause he's played in the league under Jose and is a very good player too . Any other options like Malcom are all hit and miss which we cannot afford this season . 50 M seems to be a fair evaluation for him in the current market conditions .
 
haram said:
He was good enough for a Chelsea side winning league titles and and is being targeting by a Barca side that has just won La Liga. I'm sorry but I've seen this before with Lukaku and Matic on here. The Caf going against the opinion of Barca and United, they are very likely to be wrong.
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If City or Liverpool were buying him, the Caf would label him word class, and cry on how we missed him.

Not my first choice, but is a good player which will make our team better. We will have a specialized RW for the first time in years!
 
End of the day, Willian is not coming here, so who cares if he's good enough or not?

I am almost on terms with the fact we're not bringing anymore players. Ideally, I would like to see Sandro, Alderweireld and Bale, but actually I'll see Young, Jones and Mata.
 

Di Marzio on Benzema's agent dismissing the claims: "He can laugh as much as he wants... maybe he won't laugh if and when the player changes agent. And when he finds out that Benzema made other intermediaries talk to Milan. And he spoke to Gattuso himself. I don't laugh... telling you what I've verified."
 
haram said:
You miss out the part where I have seen Willian play as well. Also, people think Willian is not good enough period. I find it funny because the same thing happened with Matic, Lukaku and Perisic. Caf knows best though. I'm done with this tbh, this is the transfer tweet thread.
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Perisic has bever played for us, so counting him with Lukaku and Matic is silly. As for Willian, he is a decent player but not productive enough. We need more goals/assists from our wide players which we seriously lack at this time. Willian doesn't fit the bill for me. He is not a bad player, but not one to take us to the next level which we so desperately need.
 
ash_86 said:
Mostly because people don't give credit where it's due . Willian is a excellent player and mainly due to the fact that he's 29 people automatically reject and hurl comments about him . Bale would be amazing tier A signing for us . But with the situation at Madrid, we won't be getting him any sooner . When looking at other options Willian suits the bill for us. Cause he's played in the league under Jose and is a very good player too . Any other options like Malcom are all hit and miss which we cannot afford this season . 50 M seems to be a fair evaluation for him in the current market conditions .
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Never said Willian is a bad player, just not one I see who will take us to the next level where we need to compete with the best in Europe. We cannot keep signing players with the intention of first only trying to improve in domestic competitions and then 2-3 years later think of replacing them when we want to try to be the best in Europe. We need players who will immediately make that position of ours good enough to be called as one of the strongest on Europe. Willian doesn't even come close to that for me.

Now if we weren't getting anyone else for the RW, then surely I would prefer Willian over Mata and Lingard there, but that will be just adding more mediocrity on top of the existing ones - albeit with a slight improvement.
 
Offside said:
I can’t understand William. Every time I watch him he looks class, he’s won titles with Chelsea and starts for Brazil - yet everyone thinks he’s rubbish? Weird one.
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This Willian thing reminds me when we had a mini meltdown here when we were linked with Mane, look how that turned out..
 
We could definitely do worse than Willian, just not really sure he would improve us enough. He is a good player but for all his good qualities his end product isn't enough and he is not always the most consistent.
 
Hawks2008 said:
We could definitely do worse than Willian, just not really sure he would improve us enough. He is a good player but for all his good qualities his end product isn't enough and he is not always the most consistent.
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I think people seriously got crazy, a Chelsea and Brasil starter over Mata/Lingard, how could he not improve us? People didn´t learn from Matic situation? I´d say it is exactly the same one. A player at his peak who we need, for his position he plays, who can give us 3-4 good years and improve the team.

Wonder if we end up with Lingard and Mata another season or we are trying to get a big transfer in. If we were in for Bale he might have been here, he wasn´t and his spanish coach at the world cup so it makes sense if we know that we can get him or not already. It could be Perisic maybe and we are trying to cut the price down, maybe use Darmian who knows but certainly we need someone but let´s be patient, the only downside is that that potential player will not join the team on a pre-season.
 
mazhar13 said:

Di Marzio on Benzema's agent dismissing the claims: "He can laugh as much as he wants... maybe he won't laugh if and when the player changes agent. And when he finds out that Benzema made other intermediaries talk to Milan. And he spoke to Gattuso himself. I don't laugh... telling you what I've verified."
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Shots fired by Di Marzio. Would have egg on his face if the transfer doesn't go through.
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
I think people seriously got crazy, a Chelsea and Brasil starter over Mata/Lingard, how could he not improve us? People didn´t learn from Matic situation? I´d say it is exactly the same one. A player at his peak who we need, for his position he plays, who can give us 3-4 good years and improve the team.

Wonder if we end up with Lingard and Mata another season or we are trying to get a big transfer in. If we were in for Bale he might have been here, he wasn´t and his spanish coach at the world cup so it makes sense if we know that we can get him or not already. It could be Perisic maybe and we are trying to cut the price down, maybe use Darmian who knows but certainly we need someone but let´s be patient, the only downside is that that potential player will not join the team on a pre-season.
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Under Conte he wasn't a starter, and for Brazil he probably kept starting because Costa got injured and returned for the last 10 minutes against Belgium. It was obvious which of the two was the better player. Willian would obviously transform our right wing but mostly because we don't have an actual right winger. Against teams that give you space he is great but how often does that happen.
 
Carlos Vela, Aspas, Thauvin, Douglas Costa, Mahrez( before he went to City)etc.. literally anyone of them would be an improvement over Mata. It's not like we don't have low profile options, for some reason we always stick with 1-2 options to buy.

Is anyone on our board know about backup plans anymore? Since Ronaldo left we've only signed Valencia as his replacement, it was a fecking decade ago. Fergie with his inexplicable truth for Nani/Valencia & youngsters I could understand but Moyes wanted Bale or no one, LvG wanted Muller or no one, just why?
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
I think people seriously got crazy, a Chelsea and Brasil starter over Mata/Lingard, how could he not improve us? People didn´t learn from Matic situation? I´d say it is exactly the same one. A player at his peak who we need, for his position he plays, who can give us 3-4 good years and improve the team.

Wonder if we end up with Lingard and Mata another season or we are trying to get a big transfer in. If we were in for Bale he might have been here, he wasn´t and his spanish coach at the world cup so it makes sense if we know that we can get him or not already. It could be Perisic maybe and we are trying to cut the price down, maybe use Darmian who knows but certainly we need someone but let´s be patient, the only downside is that that potential player will not join the team on a pre-season.
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I never said he wouldn't be an improvement, anyone would be over our RW opyions. Just don't think he's the guy to help us challenge on all fronts. He was not exactly great at the WC and hasn't been a regular starter under Conte either. The parallel with Matić isn't there as Matić is better at what he does than Willian. Mahrez would have been perfect but for whatever reason José did not fancy him and now he's making up the numbers at City.
 
fallengt said:
Carlos Vela, Aspas, Thauvin, Douglas Costa, Mahrez( before he went to City)etc.. literally anyone of them would be an improvement over Mata. It's not like we don't have low profile options, for some reason we always stick with 1-2 options to buy.

Is anyone on our board know about backup plans anymore? Since Ronaldo left we've only signed Valencia as his replacement, it was a fecking decade ago. Fergie with his inexplicable truth for Nani/Valencia & youngsters I could understand but Moyes wanted Bale or no one, LvG wanted Muller or no one, just why?
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uhh no, I'll have Lingard/Mata over them any day of the week
 
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