As we hate the style we are playing, then probably not. Maybe Jose should be thinking about that and not just making sure we play the same dire stuff yet again.
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Sold in a couple of years? Sold? Mate, Fellaini couldn’t find a team to match his United salary while available on a free. You think two more years of being on the bench and at the age of the 32 he’ll be sold?
It’s more likely we’ll have to pay him to leave when the time comes.
Yep. We have no clue what we're doing, do we? From the board down to Jose, we're clueless.
Liverpool sign Fabinho and Keita. We sign Fred and re-sign Fellaini (who made about 10 appearances last season and is simply a squad player).
Yeah, we're not finishing higher than 3rd at best next season.
The board also have no capability to look forward. So whole overhaul in academy will not have real impact because of that.
They gonna sell Martial and re-sign Fellaini. Mourinho will be sacked next year and what new manager will suppose to do with Fellaini and without Martial? Right he will demand new expensive overhaul of the squad.
Woodward is worst football director in europe maybe except Milan's one.
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Fellaini according to some Arsenal related reports was offerred a 1 year contract on 80k by United and he wanted a longer contract with a higher wage. This might be why he said he felt insulted, because he thought he was some big shot but we gave him what he's worth to us.
See, we need another CB, RW and maybe a LB.All three of them combined could cost 150-200 million. Those three positions are more important than a second CM signing .Mourinho has said multiple times that we will buy a new CM if Fellaini leaves, which means if he does not extend his contract we will have to spend another 50 million on a CM.That would mean not getting a RW /LB.
I don't get the problem with Fellaini, we have Fred Pogba Matic as our first choice CMs, Herrera Pereira, McTominay as back up.
Lets suppose we decide to buy Kovacic for 60 million. Where are we going to play him? He won't replace Pogba or Fred, he can't play as a #6.And if we are going to buy an oldish CM just for the sake of being a back up l, why not keep Fellaini instead?
And don't compare us to Liverpool. They had an almost non existent midfield, unlike us.
We have one of the best DMs in the PL, one of the most talented as costliest CMs in the world and a very talented B2B in Fred. Pool have Lallana, Can, Wijnaldum, Milner and Henderson. One of those 4 is leaving, Lallana is always injured, Milner is 30+ and isn't even a proper CM, Henderson is meh. So yeah they had to get replacements and they have bought well. But who knows if their new signings will adapt to the PL.
Even if we were to believe everything we read from obscure sources...
I would have thought that rather than releasing an asset for free after having spent a few million over his release clause (think the final price was near £30,000,000 in the end)when we initially got him in the club finance group would rather see a short-term contract deal in order to sell him for a profit in any case? Players have done this before to show respect to their club even though they were leaving. At least I think they have where even after signing contracts the players are gone in the next window or the season after.
I would have thought that rather than releasing an asset for free after having spent a few million over his release clause (think the final price was near £30,000,000 in the end)when we initially got him in the club finance group would rather see a short-term contract deal in order to sell him for a profit in any case? Players have done this before to show respect to their club even though they were leaving. At least I think they have where even after signing contracts the players are gone in the next window or the season after.
What has 'selling' Martial gotta do with extending Fellaini's contract?
First of all, I don't think we want to sell Martial, he wants to leave and so we have no other go.
Secondly we are extending Fellaini's contract because we have other important priorities and we don't have the funds to buy a CB, LB, RW and a second CM
Because we are getting our priorities wrong when we are pushing to resign a bang average player and not so much to keep a mercurial talent.
You think we haven't tried enough to make Martial extend his contract?
I have no inside knowledge, but I think we have tried but the purchase of Sanchez did not help our cause.
Martial's career has stalled, he hasn't improved very much in that last year or so. Maybe he feels that he won't improve under Mourinho or that Mourinho's system doesn't suit him.
He might have asked for reassurance regarding playing time but obviously Mourinho would have said he couldn't give him any and that he will have to fight it out with Sanchez.
I refuse to believe that we are so incompetent that we just decide to let one of the biggest talents in the world go without any resistance.
We've spent 8 months trying to renew Martials contract. His agent has said so. He doesn't want to stay.
Nothing wrong with this if he's happy being an impact sub.
Certain fans are projecting their insecurities through Fellaini which isn't his or Jose's fault.
Certain fans are projecting their insecurities through Fellaini which isn't his or Jose's fault.
So mercurial meaning "liable to sudden unpredictable change". "Someone liable to erratic and fickle decisions". So we should be spending far more effort on someone who apparently "wants to leave" and is selfish in putting his own unproven self-worth in front of others to the determent of the team?
I suppose you know what the clubs priorities do you? You like everyone else have no idea what is going on in the background. This is all pointless anyway since we don't need to put any priority on Martial since he is our player and still is under contract so why would we? He will get more game time next season but not "just cause he's a "mercurial talent" ffs
When players like Messi and Ronaldo can put a respectable amount of effort in there is no excuse. The worlds greatest players still put a shift in. And before any of the usual melts start by shift I mean a defensive workhorse I mean if you stand around not moving or lose the ball then at the very fecking least show some desire to try and get the ball back or at least get back into team shape. No footballer gets away with that
on a consistent basis, not Messi nor Ronaldo can do that every game even though they have earned that right and certainly not Anthony fecking Martial.
What pushing have United done? They have offered a contract and Fellaini has finally agreed it. He has backtracked not the club.
Martial has two years left. I'm not overly concerned. It's obvious the club wants him.
The drama queens in here are embarrassing.
I will prefer to see Fellaini leave and replaced by a better midfield player but I understand the financial and footballing logic of keeping him. Either way will be fine as long as we improve our right wing, left back, central defence positions and find an excellent replacement for Martial.
That's the major issue here. Why are we offering him a contract? Okay people say he is a great plan B but most don't realize that we switched to the plan B most of the time last season because we lacked a functional midfield. One major injury to either of Pogba/Matic/Fred means Fellaini starting games and then quality dips 10 folds.
If we are saving funds for other areas then fair enough. Re-signing fellaini means even less chances for Pereira in the midfield. I would rather give him a chance to prove himself in the PL.
I do like Son, but I can't imagine we're going for yet another left sided attacker, especially trying to prise one from Spurs!
Must have come away very impressed after looking at our training facilities.
It was widely reported that the reason for not signing was that he wanted a 2-year contract and Utd were only offering 1-year. He was already offered more money (for that 1 year) than any other club would be willing to pay him, or he'd be gone already.
So if the 2-year contract is indeed true, it's United who have backtracked. Not Fellaini.
By mercurial I meant a talent whose career can go both ways. When he decides to turn up, only few remain better than him on the pitch.
Young players are not used to being defensive workhorses. They generally incorporate that as they develop. For that they need some consistency but Martial hasn't been afforded that luxury even though Sanchez does feck all for most part. No other young attacker would really fit into our system these days. Its Jose's headache to solve the defense and midfield so that attackers don't have to track back each and every fecking game. We took the right step by signing Fred but I don't think signing Fellaini is good idea.
And what's with so much vitriol in one post? We all are trying to have a discussion on our transfer market dealings. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Great piece of business for Fulham, it'll be nice to see some really strong newly promoted sides this season, I've always quite liked Fulham hope they do well.
So Phil is swimming upstream. Let's see if he knows anything. He seems to think Fellaini is leaving.
i said it before. the only reason for which United would want to keep Fellaini is to protect value of the team. He can be easily shipped out for 20 mil next summer.
My point being how much changed between yesterday and today? In fact, it seems the Fellaini decision was reached yesterday (to stay) yet he's saying otherwise. Now I've defended Phil on here in the past but he's got so much wrong in the past and I want to see how this plays out.
Doesn't. That tweet was sent before news broke.
We received good offers for Fellaini last summer. Most other clubs would have sold then given his age, contract situation and poor performances since joining. Mourinho instead declared that it was impossible for United to sell Fellaini because of how important he is and that clubs would have more chance tempting him to leave United than in buying Fellaini from us. He then spent an entire season acting like Fellaini's agent, signing his praises at every opportunity and constantly putting pressure on United to cave to Fellaini's demands and extend his contact. Mourinho will never sell Fellaini.
*That's exactly the point I made, we can't be held to ransom as a team on his whims and desires on when "he decided to turn up". What kind of strategy is that?
** Again the exactly the point I made if you read my post, why would he be afforded the luxury when he has not earnt it like Sanchez? Sanchez has been below par but still contributed more than Martial has for the team. I just hope you are not going to argue now that Martial has ever been the player once that Sanchez has.
Also, I did not mean he should be a "defensive workhorse" but should actually apply a respectable amount of effort after making a mistake or supporting the team. This is what I wrote in my post so your assertion is the opposite of what I said.
You can call it vitriol if you like but like you said we are discussing opinions on a discussion board and if you think that critique or arguments against your post then it is Ironic that you should insinuate that I implying people aren't allowed their own opinion. This is a classic comment made by those who want to say what they like but get upset by responses which shows that it is they who think their opinion is beyond reproach.
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