So Liverpool become the next club to collect all the attacking midfielders in one X1 after Arsenal.
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I hope we have people lined up who aren't reliant on us getting in the CL. If not it will be a long and stressful summer.
Mourinho has said a couple times he has his 'plan A, plan B and even plan C' targets. I assume the A includes those whose interest relies on a CL position.
Hope we can get some from his Plan A, because you would also assume the quality or experience will drop if we end up down at Plan C.
I think he'd be used in a variety of positions across the midfield if we do sign him.
Klopp might end up playing him in a similar position that Lallana plays, or as an alternative to Mane maybe.
Both i think
Can't see anything further on the Ox move, is it true?
Good signing if so.
Good signing if so.
Jose will say: Ok you can leave, once we are receiving a good deal from them like £60m. He's going to do this just like how he did to Mata, Schneiderlin and etc. Otherwise, Real will need to wait another season for De Gea's fees to be reduced. Jose will let any players go if they want to leave but obviously we also want to have a good deal that we can take.
I don't think we are going to let a world class and also best keeper alongside Neuer go cheaply in today's market if Buffon cost about €51m in 2001.
60 million pounds, which I suppose are over 70 million euros seems like a reasonable offer, but 100 million, or include a top player in exchange for another top player seem more complicated.
In any case in the end everything will depend on what De Gea tells United. If he insists on leaving then I do not think that United will maintain a so tough stance with unreachable figures, or refusing to negociate
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De Gea himself probably understand that if you guys really want him then you need to show the effort that you actually really want the best keeper by paying the demand that we are asking for. Otherwise see ya in 2018.
Didn't Realise pay €30m for Danilo in the last year of his contract? I find it amazing how De Gea is still a United player, think we wanted £40m for him which for a 23 year old goalkeeper who was saving us every week is a bargain, crazy to think Real didn't pay up.
No way United sell top class players for peanuts under Mourinho when we sell deadwood for £20m+.
No way United sell top class players for peanuts under Mourinho when we sell deadwood for £20m+.
Hi there Carvajal, I think £60 million would be fair all round if DDG wants out, good fee for us, DDG gets his wish, and we still can always still remember pulling Madrid's pants down two years ago to make us feel better.
Like I said earlier, I have no desire to fight to keep him time, he's done his bit for us, and we should respect his wishes now (whatever they are?), that is of course if if Madrid are willing to pay up, and don't try playing silly beggars again.
Not really interested in a player exchange to complicate things, especially as it'll probably be James.
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Not a Transfer Tweet but in my dream last night Stanis Baratheon told me we'd be signing a Chelsea player this summer. My guses is Willian.
Done deal then.
I would be OK letting DDG go in exchange for Varane and Kovačić.
Watching Goals and Sunday, showing Dimi flying in on a private jet in 2008. 
Those were the days.
Those were the days.
Also landing Kroos isn't so far fetched as some of you might think.
He won everything with Bayern, he's on course to do the same with Madrid, especially this season their chances of winning the league are sky high.
If he wins League this year he might be interested in trying another league and we know EPL is the most prestigious one there is ATM.
Plus we can pay him more money due to taxes being lower here, he wouldn't have the ego of Ronaldo (that is if Ibrahimovic leaves) disrupting the chemistry and atmosphere in team and he would be our main player probably.
Besides climate in Manchester is similar to Munch and English is lots easier to learn than Spanish is (I speak both so I can vouch for that).
Not so far fetched at all.
He won everything with Bayern, he's on course to do the same with Madrid, especially this season their chances of winning the league are sky high.
If he wins League this year he might be interested in trying another league and we know EPL is the most prestigious one there is ATM.
Plus we can pay him more money due to taxes being lower here, he wouldn't have the ego of Ronaldo (that is if Ibrahimovic leaves) disrupting the chemistry and atmosphere in team and he would be our main player probably.
Besides climate in Manchester is similar to Munch and English is lots easier to learn than Spanish is (I speak both so I can vouch for that).
Not so far fetched at all.
Most prestigious one there is. Lolz.
At the moment, apart from money (which probably isn´t a big concern for Kroos), there is very little reason for him to leave Real Madrid in order to join a club in the premier league, especially not for us.
With Antoine there´s the argument that he´s at a club competing for trophies, but it´s not a top tier club anyway, so Manchester United will always be a big step up for him. While for someone already at Real Madrid, winning trophies and being a key part of the first team, not so much.
At the moment, apart from money (which probably isn´t a big concern for Kroos), there is very little reason for him to leave Real Madrid in order to join a club in the premier league, especially not for us.
With Antoine there´s the argument that he´s at a club competing for trophies, but it´s not a top tier club anyway, so Manchester United will always be a big step up for him. While for someone already at Real Madrid, winning trophies and being a key part of the first team, not so much.
Hi Cantona, this summer seems to be the definitive, to stay or to come. I'm sure that Madrid will sign a goalkeeper so there will be no more episodes of this saga in 2018.
Yes, it seems that they´ll have to pay. I personally think it´s crazy to pay that for a goalkeeper, even if he was Neuer.
Hopefully in the future he will prove me wrong
It is the most prestigious whether you would accept it or not. Biggest TV deals, the most competitive, majority of the world's best managers, lots of world class players etc. I didn't say it was the best league.
There is the element of history manking also, to be one of the few that managed to win the CL with 3 different clubs like Seedorf. Also winner 3 different leagues in different countries.
Money, similar weather and language I have already mentioned in the previous post.
It's very far fetched.
It ain't happening.
He's not swapping the European champions for the 6th best team in this league.
He left Bayern for Real. No offence but a move from Madrid to United is simply not the same. It's a downward step in football terms.
Kroos already speaks English but he won't be moving here.
Not sure why anyone would think Kroos would move here.
You;d have to be pretty disillusion in your support of the club, even then in the most far fetched fantasy that he "wants to test himself" makes little sense. Why not Liverpool then? Similar history, better football, higher in the league, possibly CL. Chelsea? Similar pay, better players, great city. Guaranteed CL, PL champions. If he were to leave Madrid most of the world's top teams would be in for him.
Madrid have History, CL pedigree, high pay, sunshine, one of the greatest cities in the world, playing with the best players in the world where he's an integral part of a team which is likely to win the league this season and are looking good for a CL final.
But yea, he'll swap all that for the drizzle of Manchester with the possibility of scrapping it out for 4th place because of a bit of extra cash. Pass the crack pipe, i'll have some of what you guys are smoking.
You;d have to be pretty disillusion in your support of the club, even then in the most far fetched fantasy that he "wants to test himself" makes little sense. Why not Liverpool then? Similar history, better football, higher in the league, possibly CL. Chelsea? Similar pay, better players, great city. Guaranteed CL, PL champions. If he were to leave Madrid most of the world's top teams would be in for him.
Madrid have History, CL pedigree, high pay, sunshine, one of the greatest cities in the world, playing with the best players in the world where he's an integral part of a team which is likely to win the league this season and are looking good for a CL final.
But yea, he'll swap all that for the drizzle of Manchester with the possibility of scrapping it out for 4th place because of a bit of extra cash. Pass the crack pipe, i'll have some of what you guys are smoking.
I imagine that is one of the key arguments for any players, the TV deal is overall bigger (and still the top clubs in Spain, Barcelona and Madrid, make more off their deals). In terms of most competitive, well, depends on how you want to define competitive. In one league it´s competitive because the top clubs are much better than the rest, in one league its competitive because the top clubs are struggling. I´d assume he prefers it being competitive because the levels are insanely high. You are however right that the best managers are currently in the Premier League. Majority of the best players are still in Spain at the moment.
In terms of the rest. No, weather isn´t similar. Average temperature is both higher and lower in Munich due to it´s location, however, the key here is average rain and average rainy days. Average rainfall is twice as much in Manchester, and there´s less sunshine. Either way, it´s an absurd argument.
If he wants to go for winning the CL with 3 different clubs, he needs to cherrypick the next club, which sure as hell doesn't involve us at the moment.
The Premier League is in a transition. Next season will be interesting in terms of which club is stabilized.
La Liga will be in a big transition in a few years.
So I stated my reasons to why EPL is the most prestigious one atm (RV rights being one of them) and somehow your interpretation is that TV rights are somehow the most important for the player considering the move to other club and country. Brilliant.
My point was more or less that nobody really gives a feck about prestige in terms of overall tv money. It´s a mute point.
In terms of brand recognition for the big players, I´m not sure how big the difference is between players, I doubt there´s huge commercial interests when we´re talking about the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, United.
Oh Lord, I said it's one of the reason not THE reason for being the most prestigious league atm.
But nobody cares about it. Money - Players - Managers - Chances to win the big trophies. That´s where the prestige is.
In terms of chances to win big trophies, Premier League clubs are fecking miles off at the moment compared to Spain, Italy and Germany.
Give it two years and the balance has shifted.
But we've got 3 games in hand on Everton. 6th by default ATM, so we've got a chance
I stated few of the potential reasons why he would entertain the thought of joining us, and you can't look beyond one sub-reason of one of the big reasons.
Let's just leave it at that, no point in discussing it any further.
I´ve commented all your reasons, so it´s very strange that you´re focusing only on my comment about why the overall tv deal means feck all.
I think Kroos is interested in the money, I suppose it was one of the reasons why he did not renew with Bayern, and in fact his agent pushed hard last year with the renewal.
Right now he earns 20 million euros gross, which it´s more or less 10 million euros net.
It´s in the second salary level, next to Ramos. It would not be so easy to convince him with money.
The option of including him in De Gea transfer is very unlikely and his clause is in 300 m€.
Madrid usually sell players who are not comfortable or are very crying, but even in that scenario the price should be around 130 m€
It would be better for you to take the money and buy someone like Weigl
Right now he earns 20 million euros gross, which it´s more or less 10 million euros net.
It´s in the second salary level, next to Ramos. It would not be so easy to convince him with money.
The option of including him in De Gea transfer is very unlikely and his clause is in 300 m€.
Madrid usually sell players who are not comfortable or are very crying, but even in that scenario the price should be around 130 m€
It would be better for you to take the money and buy someone like Weigl
Again to counter that, United don't have to sell De Gea by the same regard. I know Kroos won't come to United, but the point is his value to Madrid is similar to that of De Gea to United, so unless Madrid are willing to break the bank for De Gea, he won't go. Even then, if De Gea doesn't ask to leave, United won't sell.
Regarding Kross: when Moyes was after him there were reports that said similarly to Schweinsteiger that Kroos was a United admirer/fan and wanted to play for the club one day.
Basically this.
Fair point, but players rarely play for the teams they support. That is just something papers report to add more possibility to their crazy transfer rumours
"been told its done" biggest load of shite ever, especially when a window isnt even open. I know deals can happen outside of windows, but something involving Arsenal and Liverpool wouldn't get done, and only Graeme fecking Kelly get told. Sorry
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