Marcelinho87
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And if it had never been spent then it wouldn't be sat in United coffers.No it doesn't. Once you spend it, it's no longer your money.
And if it had never been spent then it wouldn't be sat in United coffers.No it doesn't. Once you spend it, it's no longer your money.
And if it had never been spent then it wouldn't be sat in United coffers.
What makes you say that?West Ham? Weird. It might not be that weird though - Rooney wouldn't have to leave England, he could live in London (I'm sure Coleen will bloody love that), playing for a club that has I suppose history and a bit of name value.....could they afford him though?
Good luck finding a taker for his wages.We better not waive a fee
That's the thing. There will be Chinese clubs willing to pay that and then some. Plus, with the world cup next year, Rooney will be desperate to leave, so he won't just stay another season, with even more limited game time. Rooney will naturally lower his wage demand, but surely we should be getting near £10m for a player who can still play at a decent level.Good luck finding a taker for his wages.
That's the thing. There will be Chinese clubs willing to pay that and then some. Plus, with the world cup next year, Rooney will be desperate to leave, so he won't just stay another season, with even more limited game time. Rooney will naturally lower his wage demand, but surely we should be getting near £10m for a player who can still play at a decent level.
That's the thing. There will be Chinese clubs willing to pay that and then some. Plus, with the world cup next year, Rooney will be desperate to leave, so he won't just stay another season, with even more limited game time. Rooney will naturally lower his wage demand, but surely we should be getting near £10m for a player who can still play at a decent level.
Good luck finding a taker for his wages.
That's not the point. Unless he leaves for China, we are not getting a fee. And imo, that ship has sailed.No one is going to pay him his wages in the PL regardless. If he wants to play he will leave, he can get money abroad or take a pay cut and play in the PL.
What makes you say that?
I don't really see us going for the good PR route now, after treating Bastian like trash for the last 6 months. I just think, if Everton want Rooney, than we should try getting 1 of their players in return, as he still has massive marketing value and is still a very decent player for any upper mid-table team.The thing is I think we want him to go with the least amount of fuss possible, as soon as he ruled out China it meant we were unlikely to get much of a fee for him so letting him go as a gesture of good will might be the clubs idea of PR.
No one is going to pay him his wages in the PL regardless. If he wants to play he will leave, he can get money abroad or take a pay cut and play in the PL.
That's not strictly true.
If West Ham saw him as a £15m player who they would be prepared to pay £120k a week that'd be a £33m investment over 3 years. With us expected to let him go for a few £m that'd be around £200k a week over 3 years.
Why not Gueye?I don't really see us going for the good PR route now, after treating Bastian like trash for the last 6 months. I just think, if Everton want Rooney, than we should try getting 1 of their players in return, as he still has massive marketing value and is still a very decent player for any upper mid-table team.
I don't really see us going for the good PR route now, after treating Bastian like trash for the last 6 months. I just think, if Everton want Rooney, than we should try getting 1 of their players in return, as he still has massive marketing value and is still a very decent player for any upper mid-table team.
By that same logic, Bayern sold Bastian, who was a club legend, for over £6m to us in very similar circumstances. I'm not saying we should ask for £20m, but waiving the fee is extreme.Schweini was only here a year, Rooney has been here 13 years since he was 18 and is our all time leading goal scorer, how we treat him will be vastly different. I just think we'll facilitate the move to Everton if he really wants it, rather than holding out for a fee.
Why not Gueye?
By that same logic, Bayern sold Bastian, who was a club legend, for over £6m to us in very similar circumstances. I'm not saying we should ask for £20m, but waiving the fee is extreme.
He's not reliable but most reporters aren't to be honest.Genuine question, I'm not asking to be critical but how did Delaney get his "reliable" tag?
Started treating him as reliable a couple of years ago because he had so many endorsers on here. But so much of what he says turns out to be bull
Bastian is not our all time scorer but some guy that played 18 largely unimpressive league games for us.I don't really see us going for the good PR route now, after treating Bastian like trash for the last 6 months. I just think, if Everton want Rooney, than we should try getting 1 of their players in return, as he still has massive marketing value and is still a very decent player for any upper mid-table team.
He's been very impressive, but Everton won't sell him. They're much more likely to sell Lukaku or Barkley imo.
It's in relation. Bastian was one of the highest earners at Bayern before he moved and they wanted to sell him to save on his wage. In comparison, Rooney, on far more, is also on very high wages and we want rid. Both players were captains of their country, but were past their best. Both players were also in demand. A big difference is, a much bigger club in United were interested in Bastian, while only smaller teams want Rooney. Therefore, it is expected for Rooney to lower his wage demand, while Bastian increased his. Also, if Rooney really does still have aspirations to play for England at the world cup next year, he will move away from us at any cost and not just stay on the bench and get his 250/300k a week. This surely gives us some leverage to get a transfer fee for him. Perhaps I'm basing this off our dealings with Everton, but I really don't want to give them free transfers for players who clearly have market value, when they made us pay £27.5m of Fellaini and want £90m for Lukaku (different sort of player, but still well over his market value).The difference is Schweinsteiger didn't have to have his wages supplemented, if anything he got a pay rise coming here.
It's in relation. Bastian was one of the highest earners at Bayern before he moved and they wanted to sell him to save on his wage. In comparison, Rooney, on far more, is also on very high wages and we want rid. Both players were captains of their country, but were past their best. Both players were also in demand. A big difference is, a much bigger club in United were interested in Bastian, while only smaller teams want Rooney. Therefore, it is expected for Rooney to lower his wage demand, while Bastian increased his. Also, if Rooney really does still have aspirations to play for England at the world cup next year, he will move away from us at any cost and not just stay on the bench and get his 250/300k a week. This surely gives us some leverage to get a transfer fee for him. Perhaps I'm basing this off our dealings with Everton, but I really don't want to give them free transfers for players who clearly have market value, when they made us pay £27.5m of Fellaini and want £90m for Lukaku (different sort of player, but still well over his market value).
Yes, you are probably right. Our wage system always bites us back when trying to sell for a decent fee.I get where you're coming from and I guess it's going to come down to if Rooney truly prioritizes playing week in and week out with the intent to make the World Cup squad over money, because he'll have to take a wage cut if we are getting a fee. I just feel that if push comes to shove we'll practically pay him to leave without fuss.
Genuine question, I'm not asking to be critical but how did Delaney get his "reliable" tag?
Started treating him as reliable a couple of years ago because he had so many endorsers on here. But so much of what he says turns out to be bull
But he is not going to be Iniesta's replacement. He has been playing more or less on the left wing for Liverpool. I don't think he'll be able to play in Iniesta's position.Don't think he'd flop or warm the bench. Inesta is 33.