RedMaestro
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We better check is papers twice, a U20 shouldn't look like that.
We better check is papers twice, a U20 shouldn't look like that.
Dybala would have to leave to BernabéuWhere would that leave Dybala? Whose place would be in danger if Sanchez went there?
Dybala would have to leave to Bernabéu
Dybala would have to leave to Bernabéu
I think that if he signs It would be to become the leader of the project as soon as Cristiano leaves. He has the conditions to improve a lot.Ahh yes, another young starlet's career to stagnate due to Florentino's vanity project. I'm sure you need a £90m bum to warm the bench seat that will be left empty after Isco's departure this summer.
I hope the lad has more sense than that.
I think that if he signs It would be to become the leader of the project as soon as Cristiano leaves. He has the conditions to improve a lot.
The team is not younger and not only Cristiano but also Benzema could leave.
Of course the bench is a risk.If he doesn't want competence then Madrid are not the best destination.
That's never stopped Madrid in the past.Please no to Dybala ffs
We don't even need any mids or forwards, hell we need to sell some.
That's never stopped Madrid in the past.
That's never stopped Madrid in the past.
Plse no, make the bad man stop....It's not about what Real Madrid needs, it's about what Florentino needs. He needs to get his Galactico fix. It's been a while and the itch is back.... stronger than before. You gotta feed the beast.
You are right Mike,Cris and Bale have very long contracts, although in the case of Cristiano I think that he got a "gratitude contract" .Ronaldo signed another contract till 2021, and he's got a bit of Ibrahimovic about him. He's a fitness fanatic and a bit of a narcissist, so he'll keep his physique and keep going till 35 easily.
Bale also signed a new contract till 2022 and is a better player than Dybala at the moment.
Benzema might go but then he's a striker rather than a forward/winger so Dybala is not gonna take his place, someone else will come and take it.
My point being, if Dybala goes to Real now there is no risk of being benched. There is a certainty of being benched, as Isco and James Rodriguez found out (who are still there btw).
If he has his senses he'll enjoy his status at Juve for 4 more years till he is 26-27 till Ronaldo's contract runs down and then swoop in and take his place. Like Kaka did when he moved from AC Milan at 27.
If he moves now it will end badly for him, it's almost a certainty.
I reckon he'll be angling for a move to Barca within 2 years to play with Messi.Dybala might also be tempted to wait a few years for a position at Barca to open up.
Did you know that Vissel is a joining of the words Victory and Vessel? Yes, it's supposed to be like a ship that guides Kobe to victory.
No I am not making this up.
http://jsoccer.com/new/jleague/vissel-kobe/39-vissel-kobe
They should really have called themselves Shitory Kobe, combining Ship and Victory, as this is much less ambiguous. I mean a vessel could be anything.
Thats actually pretty good explanation, but i keep seeing Shitory Kobe as 'Shit story Kobe'
Did you know that Vissel is a joining of the words Victory and Vessel? Yes, it's supposed to be like a ship that guides Kobe to victory.
No I am not making this up.
http://jsoccer.com/new/jleague/vissel-kobe/39-vissel-kobe
They should really have called themselves Shitory Kobe, combining Ship and Victory, as this is much less ambiguous. I mean a vessel could be anything.
What a strange career he has had.
Still only 31 and put up good numbers at Arsenal and Galatasaray.
Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how much it would cost for us to sign him, both in terms of wage and transfer fee? He'd be guaranteed a starting position. And given his workrate, we could play him in the #10 position without problems. It would be either one of kroos, casemiro, modric or benzema who'd lose the place in the starting XIRonaldo signed another contract till 2021, and he's got a bit of Ibrahimovic about him. He's a fitness fanatic and a bit of a narcissist, so he'll keep his physique and keep going till 35 easily.
Bale also signed a new contract till 2022 and is a better player than Dybala at the moment.
Benzema might go but then he's a striker rather than a forward/winger so Dybala is not gonna take his place, someone else will come and take it.
My point being, if Dybala goes to Real now there is no risk of being benched. There is a certainty of being benched, as Isco and James Rodriguez found out (who are still there btw).
If he has his senses he'll enjoy his status at Juve for 4 more years till he is 26-27 till Ronaldo's contract runs down and then swoop in and take his place. Like Kaka did when he moved from AC Milan at 27.
If he moves now it will end badly for him, it's almost a certainty.
Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how much it would cost for us to sign him, both in terms of wage and transfer fee? He'd be guaranteed a starting position. And given his workrate, we could play him in the #10 position without problems. It would be either one of kroos, casemiro, modric or benzema who'd lose the place in the starting XI
Our president is florentino perez. None of that matters. If he signs dybala, dybala plays, period.First off, Kroos and Casemiro are in 0 danger of losing their place in the starting XI to Dybala, they are entirely different positions. Might as well say Keylor Navas is in danger to lose his position to Dybala, it's equally illogical. Benzema, potentially, if Ronaldo switches centrally and you sign no replacement. If you decide to play him as #10 it means playing something closer to United's 4-2-3-1 formation. You won't always be able to play that, it's too lightweight in midfield for CL and tough games. There is no clear path to the starting XI for him.
WAAAAAY more. Pogba's transfer fee would look sane by comparisonSecondly, I reckon he will cost something like ~€100m? More or less?
Really? Ask ancelotti if he could bench James. Ask the FSW. Hell, even Zidane got flak for it. The only reason Zidane's allowed to not play him is because he won CL without him and James's attitude last season was poorYou signed James Rodrigues for €75m in 2014, which was probably more in relative cost of the time, and you had nooo problem benching him whatsoever. Short memories the RM fans have
I watch him every week. He's ready for any team in the world. Wether he'd weaken us or not depends on a lot of factors. As for wages, james is on €8M a year. Dybala would come in on something around €30M. See the difference? To pry him away from juventus, right now, we're looking at a total initial investment of €300 millions, at least, between transfer fee and wages(over a 5 year contract). Add agent commissions and everything else, and the total cost would approximate €350 millions. Again, this is only the initial investment, and i'm staying low...You also missed a vital part of my argument which said that Dybala is not ready for RM, in the same mould that James wasn't. He will weaken the current starting XI not strengthen it, in my opinion. And that will see him benched, liked Isco and James before him. His salaries won't even come into the consideration, as James' don't.
Our president is florentino perez. None of that matters. If he signs dybala, dybala plays, period.
WAAAAAY more. Pogba's transfer fee would look sane by comparison
Really? Ask ancelotti if he could bench James. Ask the FSW. Hell, even Zidane got flak for it. The only reason Zidane's allowed to not play him is because he won CL without him and James's attitude last season was poor
I watch him every week. He's ready for any team in the world. Wether he'd weaken us or not depends on a lot of factors. As for wages, james is on €8M a year. Dybala would come in on something around €30M. See the difference? To pry him away from juventus, right now, we're looking at a total initial investment of €300 millions, at least, between transfer fee and wages(over a 5 year contract). Add agent commissions and everything else, and the total cost would approximate €350 millions. Again, this is only the initial investment, and i'm staying low...
What do you not see? That florentino perez would allow a manager to keep €300 millions on the bench?
That's what Bale is on. That's apprently what benzema will be on if it's true the club intend to give him a new contract. That's around €25M less than what cristiano is onEverything that you say really. €30m a year is €600k per week.
Nope. Mind, i'm talking about wages before tax here. As for our wage structure, it's currently divided into levels. We've got BoD winner -20+M a year after tax. Potential BoD winner -10/15M. Club captain/key player -7/10M. Great players -4/7M. Squad players -3/4M. Fringe/young players ->3MThat's not gonna happen. That's double the current highest salaries in Europe. The wage structure at RM would collapse when other players inevitably ask for bumps. FFP reules will not make it possible.
To convince juventus to sell dybala? That's the minimum we'd have to fork out. Juventus don't want nor need to sell. Player's about to sign a new contract with them that will further strengthen their positionNeither do I believe that RM will need to spend €150m on him.
But again, that's a different storyIf he is bought, he will have to be played at the start like James, of course. But if he is not performing, eventually he will be dropped. Maybe after the first year, when he's no longer that shiny new purchase.
I consider it an absolute certainty that he will be incredible for anyone who signs him, provided they don't shoehorn him into a lineup that makes no sense and use him properly.You consider it an absolute certainty that he will be incredible for you.
Not surprised. Looks like he forgot his phone.
Not surprised. Looks like he forgot his phone.
Not surprised. Looks like he forgot his phone.