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I like how people go desperate to portray Dier as somebody who could become next Carrick solely on also being a Spurs' player and possibly English.

Hope we steer clear of this average shite.

I know right!? I mean, aside from the fact that they post similar numbers in almost every department, they're nothing alike. :rolleyes:
 
I know right!? I mean, aside from the fact that they post similar numbers in almost every department, they're nothing alike. :rolleyes:

You mean aside from the fact that Carrick beats Dier in basically every stat apart from tackles, despite being far older and playing for an underperforming (compared to Spurs) team, yeah. I mean, you can also compare him to some random midfielder from mid-table club in EPL and you'll surely find some similarities.

Statistically even Fellaini is closer to Carrick, bar the fouls.
 
It's a myth that Dier isn't as good on the ball, even at his age, statistically, he compares well with Carrick.

They both average just shy of 90% pass completion, both complete similar percentages of balls forward and Dier, on average, even has a longer range of passing. And he starts far more attacks.

Dier is unquestionably better defensively and offensively. Carrick utilises his experiences extremely well, to account for the areas in his game in which he is lacking - and there is nothing wrong with that.

Dier has already shown the intelligence and awareness to play the defensive midfield role very well. And he'll only get better.

Sorry I just don't agree, and that certainly is in question to most people I would think.
 
You mean aside from the fact that Carrick beats Dier in basically every stat apart from tackles, despite being far older and playing for an underperforming (compared to Spurs) team, yeah. I mean, you can also compare him to some random midfielder from mid-table club in EPL and you'll surely find some similarities.

Note the word 'similar'. Dipstick.

The idea that Carrick is exponentially better and Dier is an 'average, squad player', is flawed. There's also 12 years between them.
 
Note the word 'similar'. Dipstick.

The idea that Carrick is exponentially better and Dier is an 'average, squad player', is flawed. There's also 12 years between them.

There's no need to be offensive, he's as similar to Carrick as Fellaini is, yet I wouldn't want Fellaini as his replacement. And no, the idea is not really flawed, as Carrick beats him in every department you'd consider for CDM bar the aforementioned tackles and yes, Dier is exactly an average squad player who wouldn't displace neither Herrera, Pogba nor Carrick and this is exactly what we don't need.
 
There's no need to be offensive, he's as similar to Carrick as Fellaini is, yet I wouldn't want Fellaini as his replacement. And no, the idea is not really flawed, as Carrick beats him in every department you'd consider for CDM bar the aforementioned tackles and yes, Dier is exactly an average squad player who wouldn't displace neither Herrera, Pogba nor Carrick and this is exactly what we don't need.

I wasn't being offensive.

Alas, let's see what happens in the summer. Mourinho rates Dier - but then again, why trust the judgement of man like Jose? :rolleyes:
 
Not many midfielders are like Carrick in fairness, but certainly Dier isn't one of them. He'd improve us now I reckon, over an ageing Carrick and slow Fellaini, but I don't want United to sign him. Purely for the gulf between his actual value and the fee that Spurs would demand for him. We can get similar level or even better players for cheaper, such as Fabinho.
 
Said I'd take Dier over most in the league and it seems like Jose sees it the same way as me. Sign me up Jose I'll help out!
 
Michael Keane and Eric Dier? Hopefully we have more ambition than that.

Jesus hold on to your pants folks.. this summer is going to be more exciting than 2007/08 (which to be fair was one of the most overrated transfer summer windows in history by United standards as every player we signed ended up not living up to the hype - bar Tevez who we got rid of anyway).
 
Yeah the £38 million outlay for Martial doesn't seem all that much 2 seasons on. Fans get to caught up in player values and net spend. Once the club is financially sound (which they clearly are) then i only care that we bring in the right players to make us compete.

You forgot the "potentially rising to £58m" bit, some of which extra has already accrued.
 
You forgot the "potentially rising to £58m" bit, some of which extra has already accrued.
And if he activates the remaining two addon clauses then he'll be worth that price as it means he'd have performed as one of the best in the world as well as appearing 25 times for a France side that has an abundance of attacking talent.
 
Jesus hold on to your pants folks.. this summer is going to be more exciting than 2007/08 (which to be fair was one of the most overrated transfer summer windows in history by United standards as every player we signed ended up not living up to the hype - bar Tevez who we got rid of anyway).

That may be so, but every one of them played a part in us winning the champions league, something that we can only dream about doing now.
 
Not just the champions league but we did the double and almost the treble that season. Now thats something we can only dream about
I dunno. 18 months before the summer of 2007, it seemed like we were a while away from another league title. I remember that Benfica match and the 4-1 defeat to Boro the month before was utterly depressing. You never quite know what's around the corner if everything clicks.
 
I think we've been fine for the most part with Pogba and Herrera as a midfield duo. Against the better teams Mourinho would probably choose 3 midfielders anyway.

I personally think we are much too open when Herrera and Pogba are in a 2, Herrera works hard but his positional play when it comes to runners is hit and miss, and Pogba isn't great at tracking the CM that runs off him. I don't want us to use a 2 man midffield but if we do I think Pogba needs a partner who is a dedicated and disciplined holder.
 
Wanyama isn't better than Dier.
I definitely think he is. He and Dembele together gave our midfield huge trouble this season. Wanyama is super underrated.
 
I definitely think he is. He and Dembele together gave our midfield huge trouble this season. Wanyama is super underrated.
To be fair, your midfield is made up of two midfielders with very limited on ball abilities.
 
To be fair, your midfield is made up of two midfielders with very limited on ball abilities.
I guess you can say that if you haven't watched either Matic or Kante this season. Both are very solid on the ball.

Wanyama and Dembele's physicality gave us issues. Both simply overpowered ours at times.
 
I guess you can say that if you haven't watched either Matic or Kante this season. Both are very solid on the ball.

Wanyama and Dembele's physicality gave us issues. Both simply overpowered ours at times.

What? Define solid? Making plays is comfortably Matic's and Kante's weakness. So its a no brainer that when they meet two DM's who can match your DMs physically that they encounter struggles.
 
I definitely think he is. He and Dembele together gave our midfield huge trouble this season. Wanyama is super underrated.

There have been a number of comments in this thread about how 'Dier is not good enough in the ball to replace Carrick', but he's twice the player Wanyama is in this respect. Wanyama is bigger and stronger than most opponents, but I think that's where his abilities end. Dier is physically strong too, a far, far better passer, and a decent goal threat too I think.

Last season he was superb in the same role Wanyama has played this year.
 


Jamie Jackson saying we're putting Lukaku at the top of our list.
 
Journo's are just throwing players to see if one sticks.
 
As well as of instead of Griezmann?

There's no mention of Griezmann. He just says "Mourinho wants a proven finisher and centre-forward who can be a focal point for the attack in the same style as Ibrahimovic or Didier Drogba and Diego Costa, the latter two No9s being used in this way when the Portuguese managed Chelsea."
 
In the last week we have been linked with Aguero and Stones, even for English journalism that's a now low in lazy fecking bullshit stories.
 
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