It does doom Foden and Brahim Diaz to loans or reserve football. Who I think deserve better.
Transfer Tweets - 2017/18
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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You wonder if the other big clubs here and in Europe will gang up on them to Uefa.
Can't see Sane or Mahrez willing to go on continuous rotation the next few years while both are so good that they can play as a starter for any other top team. If you want a rotational option on the bench you go for a cheap and young player not another top player to compete with a top player on a single spot. Doesn't make much sense and at the end one of them will want to leave to play regularly for another.
There's no need to spend +60m on Mahrez just because Sane gets injured. Manage this period with the players you have instead of rushing to the market.
I don't think we really care, we're happy with our business it seems. I think the rest of Europe's elite will care, as they don't get the same PL money
Well, if we were going off the actual realisation of talent then the best kids would always come to OT. Even under a manager who supposedly distrusts the youth players we've seen the likes of Tuanzebe, Rashford, Lingard, Gomes, Mitchell, McTominay get minutes to one degree or another. The parents are so blinded by the money that they lose all perspective over actual career prospects and just end up seduced by the superficial sheen of a club with no recent record of youth development but a really big youth team stand and some stellar packaging (around an empty box). Someone like Foden would be getting plenty of minutes at another Premier League club so, if he can't make it, and is actually being pushed further and further back with each reactionary investment, why the actual feck would any parent expect better?
Hopefully the penny drops with some of these kids while they still have a chance to progress. Sancho being the tip of the grimy iceberg.
Leicester --> Man City. No brainer really.
Mate, Phoden is 17 and Diaz is 18. None of the midfielders that are now considered world class were anywhere near ready to play regularly for teams with title and CL ambitions at the age of 17-18. McTominay is now getting some games for us at 21. It's too early for them (Phoden, Diaz) to be worrying about the first team's strength. It'd be like us saying that Angel Gomes' path to the first team is blocked by the arrival of Sanchez or Martial or whoever. The real block for them is that they aren't ready yet and probably won't be for years.
The situation might change drastically for City by 2022 and Phoden might be ready to be closer to the first team by then. He'll only be 21 after all.
I will never, ever understand Arsenal. Firstly, the price is much, much too low for a player as useful as Giroud, when you consider players who've moved for similar sums. Secondly, they probably forced the price down themselves by being so boxed in with the Aubameyang deal that they had to move on Giroud to offset the spend. Third and most importantly, isn't there anywhere else you could send two of your strikers than to two of your rivals for the top four?
I don't agree. Chelsea had Willian rotating with Pedro for the last couple of years. Not to mention Fabregas too since Matic/Kante were untouchable as CM duo. That's some pretty big names during their primes rotating. That's just one example. Isco has been on rotation in Real Madrid for years. That's another.
Some players don't care about playing every single game and being a focal point of the team, so long as they are valued members with considerable minutes and (of course) paid handsomely for it.
If I was in Mahrez's position where the options were:
a) try to carry Leicester every week while hoping for a top 10 finish or
b) play 50% of City matches with less expectation on me alone, while winning trophies (perhaps) and getting paid double.
... it'd be a no brainer for me.
I don't think Willian is a world class player. He's a hardworking winger but you can't see him as a starter in almost every time. Fabre has turned to the bench after his performance took a serious dip since Mourinho's crisis season. He's not really the same as he was earlier and that was from being his prime.
Mahrez and Sane are top players in their prime, who are too good to be just rotational option at this point. They can be offered a main starting position in any top team instead of just a rotational option in City. Even if they agreed to do it at the moment, at some point one of them will say to himself "that's enough. I want to play more regularly in a top team". It won't last for long time.
So £60m or whatever it is for a player who won't even start every match when their squad is completely fit. Absolute insanity. Added to the £60m CB they've just bought when they already have Stones and Otamendi.
Then they'll surely go out in the summer and spend another £200-300m. Since FFP is clearly completely farcical, I can't see how City don't dominate for the next several years. When a club can easily buy £50m+ players as if they're £10m ones how is anyone supposed to compete?
Then they'll surely go out in the summer and spend another £200-300m. Since FFP is clearly completely farcical, I can't see how City don't dominate for the next several years. When a club can easily buy £50m+ players as if they're £10m ones how is anyone supposed to compete?
You're dead wrong on Willian. He's been nothing short of excellent for them for years and he'd be regularly starting in every other EPL team bar perhaps City. And even if we disagree on Willian, it's hard to disagree with me on Isco.
I have a feeling Mahrez will be more than happy to play in 50%-60% of the games (some as sub) for City and collect trophies and a massive salary. Time will tell.
Opinions, but Willian for me was always a good hardworking player but not a world class one. Nothing wrong with disagreeing about that anyway. Regarding Isco, I think Madrid were preparing for both him and Asensio to take over after the BBC are done for. He has played a lot of very important matches for them as a part of that, similar to what you think about B.Silva preparing to take over from David Silva.
We don't know what Mahrez really thinks about this move so yes, you're right, time will tell.
Apparently Giroud refuses to leave London. He's also 31 and Chelsea knows we need this to happen to complete the Aubameyang deal. Third, Giroud really isn't that useful, he's scored some last minute goals but he's gone on ten game plus scoring droughts for us as well. He's also only scored more than 15 goals in a premier league season, twice. That was while playing in front of the best number 10 in a world, in a team set up to play attacking football. Even Adebayor managed that.
I don't mind him going to Chelsea, its the fee that's annoying when you see worse players than him go for similar or higher fees.
Will anyone among those clowns called journalists mention how Pep couldnt sign 80mil. plus player because he doesnt need a striker/attacker and spent 50mil. plus on defenders !?
That's a strange one. Reverse youth poaching by Barca?
It's a no brainer for Mahrez but no other club can spend 60m pounds on a squad player, that's what Mahrez is when Sane's back.
This is embarrassing from City's point of view, if they end up buying Mahrez. The have Sane out for a little while and the league is already won.
Fair play to the lad.
Imagine getting a chance to train with Messi if you knuckle down and focus on your development.
Imagine getting a chance to train with Messi if you knuckle down and focus on your development.
It's a well known fact they don't get paid. Free lunches though.
City don't know what embarrassing means. All our indignation is water off a ducks back.
Not even youth - they've got Bernardo Silva (one of Monaco's best players last season) who can slot in fine. Diaz and Foden (Foden coming back from injury) are their youth players in that position. Even Zinchenko was originally an attacking midfielder but he's been converted to LB.
New York City must be in dire straits the amount of money City are putting in their coffers.
Has about as much chance of playing for City as Patrick Roberts does.
They are looking more and more dodgy every day.
Yep. Too true.
Surely selling players to yourself is dodgy, how are those sort of deals not investigated?
Aren't Watford, Granada and Udinese constantly at it?
Yeah just on a lesser scale so nobody pays it much attention
I mean, they're practically rubbing it in people's faces at this point
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