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I seem to recall picking a copy up in Arosa and seeing lots of tits.
Possible.
Or Coleman...Id be happy with either.
With those additions next season I expect us to challenge on all fronts.
One of the United fanzines recently ran a story saying that Johnstone had the exact same information.
Because Atletico werent challenging for the title or champions league and at the time Atletico already had a young goalkeeper they had just signed who was supposed to be theirs and Spain's future, but De Gea had broken into the team instead of him. They wanted to make Asenjo's transfer successful and De Gea's sale helped them invest in a team that has gone on to win the title and get to the finals of the champions league
Normally i would agree, but i don't think it should be underestimated that DeGea is an actual Atletico fan from Madrid. So for example someone like Rooney had no problem leaving his boyhood club at a young age just like De Gea but i seriously doubt even now he would go to liverpool. I know thats not exactly the same but its the only example that came to mind.
Also the British media have been banging on about De Gea being unhappy and wanting to go to Real for nearly 3 years yet it hasn't happened. While Real usually get their man i do wonder if they were really in for De Gea wouldn't there be a bigger Spanish media campaign going like there usually is with their targets.
Real being linked to other keepers is a positive for us and i also think it's easy for people to forget Casillas is only 33 which is young for a keeper. Will Real really want to spend a big part of their summer Galactico budget on a goalkeeper, when their club captain is still relatively young?
De Gea had already replaced Asenjo a season and a half before he left for United so doesn't really make sense that they were trying to make the Asenjo transfer successful. It was a €5 million transfer and he didn't play a whole lot afterwards, Atletico knew he was a wrong fit long before DDG left.
Also in the same season where Falcao came in for 38 million (on the back of Aguero going) I dont think the 18 million for DDG opened up a new world for them transfer wise. They were already starting to deal in massive sums with some very talented players and had already won a trophy so I still reckon the trajectory was sufficient for DeGea to know he would achieve success at Atletico so could have seen it out for a few more seasons if he really wanted to.
DDG wanted the move and club loyalty only went so far.
If you don't buy into that then the alternative is he was sold against his will. Surely thats going to destroy some any existing loyalty he would have to the team.
As much I hate to admit it, I have a feeling we'll have to cash in on DDG this summer. I'm surprised at how strong the interest from Real is considering he's a Atletico youth player. Also will Real let Iker leave in the summer? or will they ship out Navas without giving him a proper shot?
I don't know if we'll be keeping Valdes on as our No.1 with a long term view though, I think the main reason we signed him was so that LvG had a backup option who he trusted in case DDG got injured and also his wages were subsidized as Monaco would be paying a big chunk of his wages while he is here ( I think that's the case, atleast that's what I understood from the papers).. So a win-win for us.
I don't know if we'll be keeping Valdes on as our No.1 with a long term view though, I think the main reason we signed him was so that LvG had a backup option who he trusted in case DDG got injured and also his wages were subsidized as Monaco would be paying a big chunk of his wages while he is here ( I think that's the case, atleast that's what I understood from the papers).. So a win-win for us.
Yea, I agree, it could be just guesswork or opinion on the agent's part, rather than him actually knowing that. I'd trust the Telegraph over a source like this.
1. De Gea is young, marketable (handsome) and Spanish, all of which matters to Real.
2. Madrid already have 5 great attackers for (at most) 4 spots in Benzema, Ronaldo, Bale, Isco and James (and that doesn't include the promising Jese or a possibly returning Chernyshev, who is thriving on loan). They will presumably replace Illaramendi and Khedira with a top CM like Pogba, Gundogan or Vidal, and have already brought in Lucas Silva to replace the other one. After that, it's hard to see where they would need to sign anyone unless Marcelo goes and a replacement is brought in, and that would cover its own cost.
This is absolutely the logical time for them to spend 60 million - or whatever seemingly fine
in the moment but actually shit fee we'll agree to because we never get enough money for top players - on a keeper.
3. Casillas would leave if they bought De Gea. Someone would give him a shot and I'm sure he wants to start. It would only take one of the big (current or historically) teams in Europe without a top keeper like Roma, Arsenal, Dortmund, Monaco, Liverpool or Milan and whoever I'm forgetting to give him a chance (and a summer sale or injury before then could open up another starting spot somewhere, though Cech will presumably also snag one of those spots, and we may open one up if we buy somebody's keeper) and maybe like Raul, he'd have a few lovely years in a new environment. The teams above (except for Milan and Dortmund) need CL experience for the coming years and who better than Casillas? Even with his troubles, it's pretty easy to talk yourself into him when you've got Simon Mignolet or whoever as the alternative.
Yes, definitely. Nearly everything in this thread is someone's opinion. There are few if any facts.
Really don't think there is great talent out there at CB at the moment.
We're a long way from the days of Maldini, Nesta, Stam, Cannavaro, Rio, Vidic, Terry etc at their best.
I'm not totally convinced that Hummels, Godin or whoever else would come in and be a whole lot better than what we have?
At GK, I really think it's important we don't sell De Gea to Real.
We're slowly reaching the stage that we're accepting being a second rate club to them.
I say go balls out for the clearly unhappy Ronaldo this summer, get him in and have him sit down with De Gea and discuss the merits of staying at United and getting back to the top of the European table.
I've never really rated Valdes, not even sure he's much better than Lindegaard.
De Gea is the least replaceable player in our squad and the only player we have who has valid claim to the best in the world in his position.
We should be adding those sorts of players, not letting them go.
We're a long way from the days of Maldini, Nesta, Stam, Cannavaro, Rio, Vidic, Terry etc at their best.
I'm not totally convinced that Hummels, Godin or whoever else would come in and be a whole lot better than what we have?
At GK, I really think it's important we don't sell De Gea to Real.
We're slowly reaching the stage that we're accepting being a second rate club to them.
I say go balls out for the clearly unhappy Ronaldo this summer, get him in and have him sit down with De Gea and discuss the merits of staying at United and getting back to the top of the European table.
I've never really rated Valdes, not even sure he's much better than Lindegaard.
De Gea is the least replaceable player in our squad and the only player we have who has valid claim to the best in the world in his position.
We should be adding those sorts of players, not letting them go.
Are you saying he was never really better than Lindegaard is now or that your not sure if he's an improvement on Lindegaard presently?
While most of that sounds plausible mate. I still don't see Real willing to blow a load on a keeper when the big rumours seem to be they want Pogba and Reus. They will probably cost £80-110m or somewhere in that region. Real are constrained by FFP like everyone else these days so while im not sure how much they can spend i doubt it would stretch to Pogba, Reus or similar players plus De Gea.
Unless of course the rumours of a De Gea/Bale swap/sale to offset their spending are true in which case who knows.
I hope for God's sake that you're joking.
I'm saying that presently, I'm not convinced he's much better.
Obviously at some stage he was at a higher level than Anders.
But I don't think he ever belonged at the top table of goalkeepers.
Obviously at some stage he was at a higher level than Anders.
But I don't think he ever belonged at the top table of goalkeepers.
What do you mean? They make it successful by making Asenjo first choice, which turned out a bad call as he never stopped getting injured. That was the only problem with Asenjo, his fitness which is part of the reason De Gea got his chance
But they would make the transfer successful by making him first choice and playing him and wouldnt need to drop De Gea and devalue or derail his development. Essentially they felt they could cash in on De Gea and use the player they had earmarked as their longterm future in goal. It didnt work out at all, thats the risk you take on injury prone players
The rest is crazy, he clearly left because the club felt it was a good deal and they could get by without him. Nobody could have known that they'd win the league and get to the final of the champions league, when Simeone took over they were doing poorly and didnt look capable of anything like that. They've always spent money but never really got anywhere since Juninho's days where they won the title
And to think he's not loyal just because he went to United - if anything that shows loyalty, he didnt go to a Spanish club to compete with Atletico, he went because the club wanted to cash in on a huge fee for a goalkeeper, look at the difference in price with Courtois the same summer. It was a great offer for them when they could get by without him and they've done that even if Asenjo didnt work out
He probably wasn't, and I agree with him. We brought in so called world beaters in Falcao and Di Maria last year and they have struggled to outperform the likes of James Wilson and Ashley Young. You simply never know how a player is going to settle in and contribute, irrespective of how big a name they are.
Anyways....back to the tweets. Take the longer discussions to another thread.
We didn't bought him last summer, so I assume we won't be ever sniffing around him.
From what I've seen we don't need another decent CB, he wouldn't be huge upgrade on any of our four center backs if any.. haven't seen how he progressed this season though.
Classic United. Dont get the player when he is cheap the year before but pay more than double of what he would have cost the year before.
Sorry but these sorts of posts are such nonsense. Firstly I can't think of a single time we have bought a player who made the move just a year earlier let alone paying double.
Aside from Berbatov can you name another time we actually bought a player for a lot more than if we had followed through with initial interest before he made the move to the club we actually bought from?
"Classic United". Where the "classic" bit is derived from a pattern of behaviour that occurred only once.
Problem is the media makes it seem like we're interested in every player.. Last summer we were linked to almost every dutch player.. Martins Indi, De Vrij, Wijnaldum, De Jong, etc.
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25m euro bid for a player LVG could have signed for £6m last summer... yeh I don't think so.
Why not? Letting him have another season of development wasn't a bad idea
That idea implies Van Gaal knew he would be good. Why not save the 19 mill and develop him ourselves?
He'd have played less than half the games here. It's pretty obvious.
It doesn't imply what you said, either.
Could we not buy these players when they're worth 6 mill, loan them back for a season where they become 25 mill players? Or is that the Chelsea/Parma-way?
Is this De Vrij you're on about? Can't see that happening.
Fair point, although that would probably need a director of football type of setup at the club.
Oh apologies if the discussion is about De Vrij, in which case I too can't see that happening at all.
Who are you talking about ? Hopefully not Depay.
I was thinking ye had it mixed up. We're you on about Depay?
That's what I remember, even his wife posted something stupid like that on Instagram or something. Now that he's gone nowhere at Madrid he's singing a different tune. He'll probably end up at Tottenham.
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