Looks decent although I think Verón was better further up the pitch. Here's mine:
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I had both versions, the other one similar to yours with Albertini. But it looks so weird in these teamsheets, I can't really explain why
. It shouldn't matter that much if you flank your playmaker with two box to box midfielders?No it really shouldn't matter much. I think it looks great man you pulled a very nice team..I had both versions, the other one similar to yours with Albertini. But it looks so weird in these teamsheets, I can't really explain why
And big you love them arrows don't you?
Pippa your team looks really solid too, I really can't help but hate the fact that it's Adriano there and not a better striker. I mean you proven over and over that he had a great peak for a decent period of time but still I can't help but wonder if he's fall and lack of ambition isn't a problem..
I would've taken Falcao there over him in a heartbeat, as well as Kluivert for example. I also think your midfield won't get plenty of love although it might deserve it. It's all a question of what midfield you face basically
It's more perspective in these team sheet pictures. Putting Cocu and Simeone behind Veron puts a thought like others provide midfield solidity defensively as well supporting attack spearheaded by Veron.
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How is Kluivert, hell even Falcao better than Adriano...
Mentally strong
Just kidding, they just seem more balanced to me, I know it might not make sense but that's just the way it goes for me.
re. Kluivert, how come no one seems to ever get him in these drafts? He was great at his peak.
I think when we said we consider players at their peaks, it didn't mean completely forget what happened before and after...
@Pippa and Aldo, how highly would you rate Adriano in a list of all the strikers in the draft? Is there anyone you'd put under him(if so, who?), or is he the weakest striker in the draft?
From the ones picked I'd only put Lewandowski under him.
I don't think Torres, Tevez, Aguero, Cavani should be rated higher as Adriano.
I don't rate him that much. Not even sure apart from 2004-05, whether he played a regulalry for a full season or not. Even in 2004-05 he scored less than 30 goals for the season. Quite talented, but never realised it fully.
Infact I half expect Pippa's opponent to win comfortably as Adriano will probably turn up drunk for the game
As in talent, or what they actually scored in a season?
I rate Adriano's peak higher than theirs and don't believe they had a big enough longterm impact to make up for that gap.
Cavani perhaps but not the other three.
Tevez in particular gets a lot of heat on here due to his antics but as a player he's nothing short of top value to have in any team. A rare breed of players who despite whatever goes on outside, steps in and always gives 200%. City were absolutely stupid to sell him, specially how he provided balance to an otherwise all out attacking front 4 they have.
I agree on Tevez, but even during his peak you can't be sure that he might not prefer to play golf in Southamerica during the season. That should count against him as well, if Adriano's fall counts so much.
Really? Tevez has done great for most part of his career wherever he's been. South American player of the year three years running. West Ham Player of the year in his first season at England. Was absolutely vital for us specially with his late goals in crucial situations. Had a successful spell with City while being one of their best performers and now he's having a storming season at Juve. He's a quality player and bring a never say die attitude.
I mostly agree with Balu, I'll rare him under Lewa, Tevez and Torres, maybe just as high as Agyero but not sure about Cavani though. I would've definitely taken Falcao over him
Adriano at his best was a blend of extraordinary shooting power, indomitable strength and size, class dribbling ability, pace, and even a worthy aerial threat from headers.
the only thing is his best form was so short. but if you talk about adriano's best, he was not someone to pale to many.
the only thing is his best form was so short. but if you talk about adriano's best, he was not someone to pale to many.
As I said even during times when he wasn't having a great time off the pitch he never let it hamper his game. Fergie sidelined him completely for Berba in 08-09, but he gave his all in the little time he got.
How many times have you seen United fans go against Fergie to defend a player?
Obviously, no one can question what he did during those couple of years but then came the downwards spiral...
If Adriano's career had ended abruptly because of injuries and not because of him being a massive idiot, he would be seen as an incredible player, imo. It's really impossible to rate him in a fantasy draft. The downward spiral should count in a bit, but you simply can't deny how great he was at his peak and his peak was long enough to make sure that it wasn't just form.
Adriano would be in the bottom places obviously, I saw him as a first round CF only. He's higher than the likes of Cavani, Inzaghi, Rooney, Aguero, Lewandowski, and Torres IMO.
And it's not like it was a purple patch for Adriano anyways, it was close to 30 or so months where he was playing to an incredibly high level.
Why not? If you're only supposed to consider them at their peaks, why would you look at what happened before or after it? It's not like I picked Adriano because of how good he was in 2007, or kps took Torres based on how well he has done at Chelsea.
And it's not like it was a purple patch for Adriano anyways, it was close to 30 or so months where he was playing to an incredibly high level.
Which were Adriano's peak years? Around 04-05? How much did he score then?
We consider the player at their peak, yes but the career before and after his peak play in part as well. We have to give credit to players who stayed consistent for a decade as compared to 1/2 season wonders.
For me at least, I don't quite remember how the rule was changed when it was. Yes you are picking Adriano based on what he was doing at his peak but the shorter the peak, the riskier it gets.
After about 35 minutes, I've finally found Adriano's goals and assists numbers from 2002-2005.
Oh dear, what have you done.
You guys should save all this for the match day thread so potential voters can also be part of the conversation. Be patient.
Is there a list with the dates for the games? Just in case kps and me should play tomorrow, it would be great to know soon.
Yes to both. Your weaklink is your spine of Deboer-Petit-Seedorf-Costa-Vieri and it will be exposed to great effect in the upcoming match.
Shots fired.
Kluivert's problem is that the likes of Christian Vieri was getting picked up in the bargain bin at the end of the draft. His other problem is that he never scored as heavily as dozens of strikers who managers could also select. But as a technically and tactically gifted target man and foil for a top banana number 10, there are few better.Mentally strong
Just kidding, they just seem more balanced to me, I know it might not make sense but that's just the way it goes for me.
re. Kluivert, how come no one seems to ever get him in these drafts? He was great at his peak.
If we are only considering players at their peak form, no way is he better than white pele or torres for that matter.
Let me sort thru the alerts and compile the fixture list
2 April
Edgar vs Annah
3 April
NoPace vs Paceme
Kps vs Balu
4 April
Viva vs MJJ
Aldo vs Trippy
7 April
Pol Theon vs Fergus
8 April
Cutch vs Crappy
Pippa vs Gandalf
Any issue please let me know, thanks
Edgar vs Annah
3 April
NoPace vs Paceme
Kps vs Balu
4 April
Viva vs MJJ
Aldo vs Trippy
7 April
Pol Theon vs Fergus
8 April
Cutch vs Crappy
Pippa vs Gandalf
Any issue please let me know, thanks
Oh god, first again
Team sheet ahead of the big match.
Fabregas rounded off your team nicely. His stock isn't especially high at the minute but in terms of a more direct, (Premier League-ish??), style of play he' a great pick. No shortage of workrate in that team either, with Ronaldo the only one that could be descrbied as a passenger defensively.
The plan at the moment. Any comments?
Its lacking a wee bit in terms of marquee names and top-end quality but its very nicely balanced with no clear weaknesses. Its got a few obvious routes to goal, and any team you face with weak/slow full backs is likely to be in trouble. I prefer Veron sat slightly behind the two midfield runners in the team graphic as you've done. It gives a better sense that he'll mostly be dictating things from deep rather than being sat behind Crespo.
I can't see it
de Boer is better than both your CBs,
Petit is better than your DM Emerson
Seedorf is one of the top box to box in history, and yes, as a CM I rate him over Fabregas
Rui Costa is a monster of a #10, and miles better than Rooney
Vieri is a great striker, definitely not better than Shearer but definitely same class
So, let me get this straight, and I wish someone else will help you explain this to me, where is my weak spot as compared to your team in "Deboer-Petit-Seedorf-Costa-Vieri", against "Marquez/Varane-Emerson-Fabregas-Rooney-Shearer"..
Is there anything in this post you disagree with? I think it's pretty straightforward and legit.
Yeah but he never gets picked anyway for these drafts, it's not just this one where he's gone missing.
Has no one ever done an Ajax '95 theme?