That is a good idea actually the variations/Bench. We will see what everybody says.
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I wouldn't change the TP system in general, however I agree with the point that future reinforcement rounds might get a bit boring. My suggestion would be to make some of the unpicked TPs (or all of them) lose their TP status. There are several players who got the wrong end of the stick here, players that were deemed not good enough for the latter rounds in previous drafts despite clearly being good enough. We could find 8 names that make sense from the still available and soon to be available TPs (the ones from the losing teams in this round) that could go from being TP to not being TP and therefore make the draft more interesting. Rummenigge, Hagi, Rui Costa, Schuster really shouldn't be TP rated, imo.
We could agree on 8 players, or maybe let a neutral decide, so we don't have a conflict of interest with the managers still in the draft choosing players they need. anto and Pat and the losing managers from this round could decide on those 8 players. Then all of a sudden, there's one interesting new upgrade available for every team without destroying the idea of this draft.
We could agree on 8 players, or maybe let a neutral decide, so we don't have a conflict of interest with the managers still in the draft choosing players they need. anto and Pat and the losing managers from this round could decide on those 8 players. Then all of a sudden, there's one interesting new upgrade available for every team without destroying the idea of this draft.
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Think that sounds a good enough idea from Balu. Would be good to get the likes of Rummenigge involved without the burden of 6TP. Would make the auction a bit more competitive with those type of players on the loose.
I am against any changes to the TP list or TP rules. Whole strategies may and have been built up on these things. You can't change it mid way
It won't work. Someone like Schuster should lose TP status but Tigana should not since he got picked?
The TP list won't ever be a true reflection of quality and it's hardly fair at the moment. Schuster losing TP status would mean that you could for example replace Tigana and free up TP points to improve the team in the later rounds, bring in a TP defender. I don't think it'll benefit a single team more than anyone else. Your strategy of paying a lot for your not TP wingers is still worth a lot, that won't change.
But that would actually make sense, because the very fact that he got picked meant that he probably deserved the TP status.
What's happening with other games?
Think me and Stobzilla are tomorrow anyway. My writeup is sent
I should have my write-up done my tonight, ready for my scheduled game tomorrow
Balu's idea is good but it means that some themes will get benefited hugely if their players are freed and others will therefore be punished. So the best idea is probably to either allow a TP reinforcement for everybody or for neither.
If others wants to go with Balu's idea as well then I am all for it as it benefits me I believe.
If others wants to go with Balu's idea as well then I am all for it as it benefits me I believe.
@walkinhop we need to decide time for the match.
Stobzilla hasn't sent his so we are waiting for that.
Has Isotope sent his? I'll have mine done soon.
He hasn't.
Just sent one @Annahnomoss @Kazi
Waiting for Kazi's write-up and then I can start it before I leave in the morning. If Kazi doesn't send it in before 07:00 UK time I would suggest you to find someone else to do it as I most likely won't be home until late.
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I'll have mine in before then.
@Isotope @Annahnomoss Sent
Posting the thread.
@Pippa still need to decide on the game time.
I sent my write up already to @Annahnomoss so we are good to go whenever you send.
I sent my write up already to @Annahnomoss so we are good to go whenever you send.
@Annahnomoss @Balu
First regarding the Tigana/Schuster issue. Whole point is that the TP list was drawn up from the beginning and everyone knew what it was, even though there were some glaring issues with it. To change it now and remove players of similar quality to those that sold is wrong to teams that spent big or small on those talents. If someone choose to spent 2 TP on a top CB and now you take Forster off the TP list and someone gets him as a non TP is inherently wrong to the team that chose to spend his TP points on a CB.
Secondly, ofcourse the strategy of buying non TP players higher would be affected. If we knew that more attacking talent would be freed from TP list in latter round, we would not have spent so much on Boniek or Conti. How can any one argue otherwise?
Now I had raised the 12 TP issue being extended for future rounds when the bidding started. At that time everyone in unison told me no. Infact Balu himself said if someone feels likes of Rummeinge/Robbery are seen as worthy of being 6TP they will be bought otherwise no. So now to turn around and propose doing so is most definitely wrong. It is going to punish teams that planned properly for their TPs.
Frankly all these changing in rules in an ongoing draft is one of the reason why all the controversial stuff happens. Everyone knows what the rules are and is going along well. Makes no sense to change it about now
First regarding the Tigana/Schuster issue. Whole point is that the TP list was drawn up from the beginning and everyone knew what it was, even though there were some glaring issues with it. To change it now and remove players of similar quality to those that sold is wrong to teams that spent big or small on those talents. If someone choose to spent 2 TP on a top CB and now you take Forster off the TP list and someone gets him as a non TP is inherently wrong to the team that chose to spend his TP points on a CB.
Secondly, ofcourse the strategy of buying non TP players higher would be affected. If we knew that more attacking talent would be freed from TP list in latter round, we would not have spent so much on Boniek or Conti. How can any one argue otherwise?
Now I had raised the 12 TP issue being extended for future rounds when the bidding started. At that time everyone in unison told me no. Infact Balu himself said if someone feels likes of Rummeinge/Robbery are seen as worthy of being 6TP they will be bought otherwise no. So now to turn around and propose doing so is most definitely wrong. It is going to punish teams that planned properly for their TPs.
Frankly all these changing in rules in an ongoing draft is one of the reason why all the controversial stuff happens. Everyone knows what the rules are and is going along well. Makes no sense to change it about now
Neutral thing won't work. Suppose someone needs players in defense. If none of the defenders in TP list are freed up, he will surely feel hard done by.
It was just a suggestion in case we really want to change something. It's better than giving more TP points to everyone, because that would imo ruin the idea of the draft. I'm fine if we don't change anything.
Righto - As per around game time I get swamped with work, I have been negligent but I intend on doing a write up on my lunch hour, hopefully I can get it in so we start today if not then I will definitely have it in by lunch time tomorrow.
I think that if we add some more TP to next round it should be the last round we do it, even if it ruins reinforcements. Plus, if you add TP, you should really few, like 6. No more than that.
Anyway, I agree with Crappy, and think we should leave it unchanged. The whole idea of the draft was playing without making the final with two unstoppable teams.
Anyway, I agree with Crappy, and think we should leave it unchanged. The whole idea of the draft was playing without making the final with two unstoppable teams.
@Stobzilla I'll struggle to be around tomorrow mate.
What about the other matches?
Looks like Cutch-Stob's cant happen today since Cutch won't be about.
What else is left?
NoPace vs Balu/Mendez
Pippa vs trippy
walkinhop vs Annah
We need to start two of these today!
Looks like Cutch-Stob's cant happen today since Cutch won't be about.
What else is left?
NoPace vs Balu/Mendez
Pippa vs trippy
walkinhop vs Annah
We need to start two of these today!
I asked @NoPace twice here when he wants to play, but he didn't respond
. He's posting in other threads though, no idea what he ignores me.We need to start looking for replacements I believe. Walkinhop hasn't said anything for a week about our match-up and I have tagged him and PM'd him. Pippa I believe hasn't sent in a write-up nor has NoPace been responding.
So ideally we replace them and continue the matches.
Pippa seemed a bit busy around the end of auction but did come back to respond so it might be a bit too soon to replace him.
3 replacements is a bit much.
Worst case we can wait till Monday I suppose
Worst case we can wait till Monday I suppose
Pedro said something that he can't play on Saturday, so I wouldn't mind starting the game on Sunday or Monday, if NoPace finally responds. Today won't work for me.
For me waiting is great too!
We have to wait out the weekend but Monday's gotta be the deadline.
If Cutch and Stob are game for the weekend, we can start that one
If Cutch and Stob are game for the weekend, we can start that one
Hopefully this doesn't drag too much as the WC is about to start in a couple of weeks and ideally it would be good to finish this before that. The last few games get less activity as it is but with the WC fever hitting the caf the threads won't survive the homepage for 5 minutes.
Yes. This stage needs to finish by Tuesday. Then we have auction. QF. Mini auction. SF. Auction. Final
Start mine whenever. I'm moving stuff out of my old house today but hopefully back on this evenin
The tp points we would add would be 2-3 so your wingers value won't decrease at all really.
How can you make that calculation? And the point was that we would not have spent so much on them if TP points were going to be increased.
I had specifically asked for TP points to be increased later on and was told no in certain terms. That's a fact. I had pointed out that TP list was flawed as well.
The whole strategy behind our drafting was based on 12 TP points being fixed till the final and TP list remaining the same. You simply can not turn around and change it now.