Television Top Gear

Car banter is lifting anyway...

But on a serious note, albeit I wasn't really joking at all, Clarkson has the BBC by the nutsack to a certain degree. I think he's a prize wanker but I can see the appeal.

You would imagine other broadcasters will be interested in a similar kind of show, although Jonathan Ross, Adrian Chiles and Christine Bleakley all serve as reminders that the BBC isn't such a bad gig after all.

I tend to agree, but I am also reminded of Glasgow Rangers, leaking the belief that they would never be demoted, as the SPL wouldn't be able to survive without them.
 
I like Clarkson and I like Top Gear (though I used to enjoy it more) and I have signed the petition. Hopefully this gets sorted out and the programme will be back soon.

On the other hand, I thought Sky Sports would miss Andy Gray and then Neville and Carragher have come along and really freshened the whole thing up for the better. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes.
 
I do.

In an age where the slightest faux pas gets an army of twitter and facebook trolls baying for blood with their pretend outrage, we have Clarkson allegedly punching somebody and people are signing petitions to keep his show on the air. This is after racism incidents and a tasteless stunt in Argentina which poked fun at the Falklands War.

I don't get it.

What's the appeal?
Just about sums up my view on it. He's a detestable bloke, anyone else caught punching a colleague would've already been fired (that's without mentioning his past use of racist terms on air).
 
Just about sums up my view on it. He's a detestable bloke, anyone else caught punching a colleague would've already been fired (that's without mentioning his past use of racist terms on air).
Sadly no. I work for a TV station. A reporter dragged an editor outside at a staff party and kicked his ass. The editor sued and gave the station an ultimatum. The station did nothing so the editor quit. Guy isn't even a good reporter, he's dull as hell, is not a nice man unless you're a female and has anger management and alcohol problems. Companies can be so scummy.
 
Sadly no. I work for a TV station. A reporter dragged an editor outside at a staff party and kicked his ass. The editor sued and gave the station an ultimatum. The station did nothing so the editor quit. Guy isn't even a good reporter, he's dull as hell, is not a nice man unless you're a female and has anger management and alcohol problems. Companies can be so scummy.
I always knew Jon Snow was a cnut.
 
Top Gear would be shit without Clarkson.

May is brilliant, he's the best thing about it and his other BBC shows are good too. Hammond is awful though, can't help but feel that horrible crash he had years ago dislodged something in his head.

If...IF they could find a funny, knowledgeable person with a good rapport with Hammond and May it would survive, but we'd probably end up with Matt Baker off the One Show or Fiona Bruce just to make sure the new presenter never upsets anyone.
 
The entertainment industry is littered with things people said would never work after it lost a star, and then just sort of did. Likewise if he took the format to another channel, there's no guarantee it'd pull in anything like the same numbers. In fact nearly all the Beebs big hitters who've jumped elsewhere for the money have found it considerably harder. Even MOTD flopped on another channel, and that is literally just football highlights.
 
It's just another publicity stunt. If they were going to sack the cnut for whacking someone, they'd have sacked him years ago for something or other. He plays up to this bad-boy image because it's his job too. Run over there Clarkson and say something controversial, piss off the locals or something like you always do... How long are people going to keep falling for this crap?
 
Is the controversy real or just a stunt to generate publicity? Nothing is authentic in the world of television.

I can't believe anyone cares, the show is useless and Clarkson has made a career out of being an offensive asshole on a worldwide scale.

Wheeler Dealers shits all over Top Gear. I love how the fat man keeps the tall guy as a manservant who doesn't charge for labor. That is how you make some profit. Quality entertainment.
 
Top Gear could survive without Clarkson but in a different format. Plus, I can't see Hammond and May sticking around without him.

This will all blow over and they'll be back with a new series in the summer or next year, while the haters will have their usual fix of X-factor and Kim Kardashian to get excited about in the meantime.
 
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Top Gear could survive without Clarkson but in a different format. Plus, I can't see Hammond and May sticking around without him.

This will all blow over and they'll be back with a new series in the summer or next year, while the haters will have their usual fix of X-factor and Kim Kardashian to get excited about in the meantime.

Bollocks could it. It'd either come back as a more factual show and be cancelled shortly afterwards because no one would watch it, or it'd come back as an entertainment show and people wouldn't watch it because Hammond, May and Clarkson would be off making their own Top Gear for Sky and raking in the money. It makes the BBC 150 MILLION quid, you think Sky wouldn't bite their hands off for a slice of that?
 
The thing that most annoys me about Clarkson is that he's actually a very capable presenter/journalist when he puts his mind to it. If you've ever seen him talk about something he has a passion for its genuinely good to watch and he can produce some very articulate pieces.

Hence his laziness with some of the shit he puts out is very frustrating. It's too easy to cobble together some half arsed scripted nonsense and throw in the odd controversial comment knowing it'll get viewers.
 
Whatever sort of dust up he had with the other member of staff, half a million people signing a petition for his reinstatement, when he hasn't even been sacked and none of these people know what happened apart from he possibly thumped someone, is crazy.

The thing is he is a commodity who make the BBC fortunes, in the same way Chavs can't sack Terry for being a racist, the BBC would find it very difficult to sack Clarkson for punching someone.

At the end of the day, whatever you think about Clarkson, he's an intelligent & articulate fella and he knows full well if he has done something he shouldn't have. He has a £30M fortune and doesn't really need to work again, even so if he was made an offer by Sky, I doubt he would really care whether it was successful or not, as long as he could still get to drive all the latest fast cars round a race track, sideways.
 
It's also their most problematic major asset.

They don't answer to shareholders. They can bin things that are profitable if they think it's good for the whole.

The thing that most annoys me about Clarkson is that he's actually a very capable presenter/journalist when he puts his mind to it. If you've ever seen him talk about something he has a passion for its genuinely good to watch and he can produce some very articulate pieces.

Hence his laziness with some of the shit he puts out is very frustrating. It's too easy to cobble together some half arsed scripted nonsense and throw in the odd controversial comment knowing it'll get viewers.
I think this plays a role though. They do seem to fancy him as a documentary maker.
 
You seemed to suggest that losing it would be a drop in the ocean, which it clearly wouldn't.
I was talking about Clarkson not Top Gear. He is a drop in the ocean. Top Gear presumably makes most of it's money through syndication abroad and by selling the format to other countries. Why would that money be lost? You really think mr. or mrs. general director of a TV channel in Lithuania or wherever gives a shit whether or not he still works there and will cancel the show?
 
I was talking about Clarkson not Top Gear. He is a drop in the ocean. Top Gear presumably makes most of it's money through syndication abroad and by selling the format to other countries. Why would that money be lost? You really think mr. or mrs. general director of a TV channel in Lithuania or wherever gives a shit whether or not he still works there and will cancel the show?
There would definitely be an impact if Clarkson took tweedle dee and tweedle dumb over to Sky.
 
There would definitely be an impact if Clarkson took tweedle dee and tweedle dumb over to Sky.
There would, in the UK and in the short term. They'd still make bucket loads of money abroad. And how do we know the other two bell ends would jump ship? They've both got great relationships with the beeb and host other shows on it.
 
I was talking about Clarkson not Top Gear. He is a drop in the ocean. Top Gear presumably makes most of it's money through syndication abroad and by selling the format to other countries. Why would that money be lost? You really think mr. or mrs. general director of a TV channel in Lithuania or wherever gives a shit whether or not he still works there and will cancel the show?
Tiff Needell and Fifth Gear suggest that there's more to Top Gear than just the show format. Love him or loathe him, Clarkson's schtik is central to Top Gear's success.
 
He should be sacked, it's racist gaff and bigotry controversy after controversy and then all explained away as 'just a joke'. How many times does someone have to make jokes of a similar ilk before people think "Actually, this bloke might be racist"? My Facebook feed is awash with country bumpkins from Cumbria all ignoring the facts about Clarkson's behaviour and demanding people sign the petition to have him re-instated as it's against his human rights, or 'political correctness gone mad'. It's like arguing with the people who deny climate change, much of whom I imagine signed the petition as well if they are not indeed the same people.
 
He should be sacked, it's racist gaff and bigotry controversy after controversy and then all explained away as 'just a joke'. How many times does someone have to make jokes of a similar ilk before people think "Actually, this bloke might be racist"? My Facebook feed is awash with country bumpkins from Cumbria all ignoring the facts about Clarkson's behaviour and demanding people sign the petition to have him re-instated as it's against his human rights, or 'political correctness gone mad'. It's like arguing with the people who deny climate change, much of whom I imagine signed the petition as well if they are not indeed the same people.
There is one problem with your argument. You dont actually know for certain what the actual facts are for this situation at this point. However you like many others on both sides of the debate have come up with a clear opinion on what should happen.