Erm Rooney?
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Erm Rooney?
Has to be Kane, looks absolutely class this year and I think he and Rooney up front would be deadly (if LvG ever plays Rooney up there).
Would cost a lot, but if they miss out on the top 4, I think he would be getable.
Would cost a lot, but if they miss out on the top 4, I think he would be getable.
Falcao? Oh wait.
What about neymar? Any chance of us getting him?
Absolutely.....Now excuse me, I'm late for my date with Hayley Attwell.
Top 5
Lacazette
Depay
Icardi
Dybala
Rues (only if he gets a drive licence)
Lacazette
Depay
Icardi
Dybala
Rues (only if he gets a drive licence)
I've mostly seen him in highlights, but he seems a clever finisher. 18 in 69 for Racing in La Liga from 19 to 21 is actually pretty impressive and 13 in 26 in all comps for Villareal this year.
I don't see why we need a striker, though. Rooney starting, RVP and Wilson backing him up or playing up top with him when need be.
Rooney is not going to play as the line leader, he only has one season in his time here, and RvP is past it. Wilson has potential but has a lot of development left to do. With Rooney almost certain to play behind the forwards I think we certainly need a new striker.
Kane
Sterling
Muller
Higuain
Morata
Sterling
Muller
Higuain
Morata
I like that list, but Reus and Depay (as far as I know) aren't strikers. Lacazette is the one I'd like to see us buy. Him up front with Depay on one wing and Di Maria on the other (or if he's played in midfield, then Januzaj) with Rooney/Mata playing just behind.
Would cost about the same as Lacazette and Depay combined. Not worth it imo.
Like most others, I want to see a 4231 / 433 next season.
I don't think Falcao will be here (I hope anyway).
I don't think RVP has the pace to fit that role.
Rooney can play it, but his mentality is to drop deep at times, and I really don't think that works in this role, he'd need to always but the last man.
Wilson is a work in progress, but not ready.
Harry Kane. Is he that good? I am not saying he is a bad player, but we have seen many people do it for a season. If the price was right, then sure, but with Tottenham, you pay over the odds, and he may not end up being as good as expected.
Lacazette would be my choice. He scores goals and has the pace to run on the last man.
Vietto and Dyabla sound nice, but I've not really soon much of them to really comment
I don't think Falcao will be here (I hope anyway).
I don't think RVP has the pace to fit that role.
Rooney can play it, but his mentality is to drop deep at times, and I really don't think that works in this role, he'd need to always but the last man.
Wilson is a work in progress, but not ready.
Harry Kane. Is he that good? I am not saying he is a bad player, but we have seen many people do it for a season. If the price was right, then sure, but with Tottenham, you pay over the odds, and he may not end up being as good as expected.
Lacazette would be my choice. He scores goals and has the pace to run on the last man.
Vietto and Dyabla sound nice, but I've not really soon much of them to really comment
Heard this Torres guy is doing quite good at Athletico.
Regardless of which striker we bought you are spot on with the overall point.
In 4-2-3-1 Rooney will be in the middle of the 3 behind the striker, and in 4-3-3 he is one of the two #8's in the midfield 3.
We had a striker addict for manager, and also you could argue Rooney led the line one of those Tevez seasons, I think, unless you don't count either as leading the line if there's 2 up front.
If Rooney played for Bayern, Madrid or Barcelona he'd be competing with Lewandoski, Benzema or Suarez, not the other starters, in all probability.
People think he drops off too much, but at the highest level, most teams prefer that to a static, stagnant 9 which is why consistent goalscorers like Mario Gomez, Huntelaar and even Zlatan have all been rejected and replaced by less static 9's at one of those 3 clubs.
For next season, we might well be best off going simple, with Rooney as be the 10 behind RVP (and starting at the 9 when Mata is the 10) with Di Maria tucked in on one wing and a new, effective wide attacker on the other, but really, going forward, if we want to be in the bracket with those 3 clubs, which should absolutely be the goal considering our yearly revenue, we need to be better on the ball and less static. That means Rooney up front, where his wandering actually creates space, leaves other team's CB's useless at times and makes us threatening on the counter in the CL and in big games in England. None of those teams would play someone as inconsistent on the ball as Rooney as a 10, or even a 10 at all.
When we had Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo it was probably as close to a free flowing front 3 as we have ever had, without a doubt.
One of the differences between Rooney and the Bayern & Real line leaders is his engine defensively is far greater which managers like to use, and in those teams they have goals in their wide attackers, now while Di Maria is a quality player he does not chip in with the consistent goal ratio of Ronaldo, Bale, Robben or even Ribery, so playing a front will be tricky for us.
To me the middle ground is to set up like Chelsea, with Rooney in Oscar's role and Di Maria and one of Januzaj/Nani/Memphis either side of him and a new, mobile, quick, hard working number 9 up top, no way we are challenging for anything with a 32 year old RvP as our main striker.
I don't think Rooney has the mobility, defensive skills or consistency to be in Oscar's role against the biggest teams or tough away games, but at home against 10-12 of the Prem teams and in the CL group stage, sure.
The only team in the top 5 in the world (those 3 + Atletico + Chelsea) that competes without a bunch of goals from out wide is Atletico, and they'll fall short of La Liga this year in all likelihood because they don't score enough goals, and it's a lot easier to sign a great wide attacker than replicate their insane discipline and defensive nous.
I'm not a 4-4-2 guy at all but:
----Muller-Rooney--
Winger-------DiMaria
-----Herrera---------
--------Blind----------
looks flexible and dangerous and a bitch to play against, and Muller's ability to play wide would mean he could go on the left with Mata as the 10 or Wilson leading the line and we'd still work.
I'd love to see something like this next season
----------------------Blind-------------------
--------Schniederlin--------Di Maria--------
-----Winger--------Rooney----------Muller-----
Muller really is an excellent player, the guy would be darwins favourite footballer, he can adapt and excel in any forward position. Apparently LVG bid for him in the summer, so just maybe..
Looks good to me. I think Herrera's issues are somewhat in LVG's head (though Schneiderlin is definitely better defensively), so I'd be happy with the winger and Muller alone, but yeah. It's tough to argue with us signing 2 top wide talents and letting Di Maria play where he did for Ancelotti.
Muller would be unreal tbh. He's absolutely impeccable.
Interesting, Rooney is far more proven in every way than Oscar in both scoring and defending and I haven't seen any noticeable decline in his engine or his mobility. I get the genuine feeling you want Rooney out of any role that isn't the very furthest forward as you don't rate the other aspects of his play.
I wasn't suggesting that we should not bring in a player who can add goals from wide, I have feeling that is what Memphis is being lined up for, to be basically play the role Hazard plays for Chelsea.
I honestly think we don't need one, RVP maybe off form but the teams formation, lack of creativity and back passing possession at all costs shite is the reason.
If we play 4231 or 433 like the other top dogs we have enough strikers in RVP, Rooney and Wilson since we'll only be needing one at a time.
For me personally I'd have Rooney as the main man, just look at 2010 when he tore Europe and the League up.
If we play 4231 or 433 like the other top dogs we have enough strikers in RVP, Rooney and Wilson since we'll only be needing one at a time.
For me personally I'd have Rooney as the main man, just look at 2010 when he tore Europe and the League up.
Just seen an Independent article mentioning us wanting Cavani 
Is the talk of Muller above coming from somewhere or just hope? He's undoubtedly top class, but I do find him a truly hateful prick.
Is the talk of Muller above coming from somewhere or just hope? He's undoubtedly top class, but I do find him a truly hateful prick.
----------------------Blind-------------------
--------Schniederlin--------Di Maria--------
----Memphis--------Rooney----------Muller-----
There you go.
I like to call that front trio: Speed, Power, Technique.
Not a million miles off, but it's not Rooney's mobility I question so much as his positional intelligence, effectiveness at pressing and consistency of touch. Remember how much better Welbeck was at bothering Xabi Alonso?
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/how-oscar-became-jose-mourinho-favourite-chelsea
Scoring, though, yeah. Rooney will outscore Oscar anywhere. It's why I don't understand why we haven't tried Rooney as a left-wing forward (like Ronaldo is used at Madrid in their 4-4-2 when Bale doesn't play) more. If he can even be 1 in 3 from out left, we'd fix a lot of our balance issues, even if it's not a long-term plan.
Just hope, thankfully.
He was shite on the left for us in the past and shite for England there too. He also hates playing there, doesn't have the pace or the nous for it and isn't good enough that he can be absolved from defensive work like Ronaldo so it becomes a completely different role.
Harry Kane, if he progresses on this path, for me. He reminds me of Shearer the way he shoots with power. Getting him from Spurs would be hard though with that cnut Levy in charge.
The Cavani story is according to the Daily Star, complete rubbish.Just seen an Independent article mentioning us wanting Cavani
Is the talk of Muller above coming from somewhere or just hope? He's undoubtedly top class, but I do find him a truly hateful prick.
Bayern won't let Muller go.
In fairness Danny is a fast young athlete which helped in that task. I do agree on the consistency of touch and for me his short passing game is not that good for a #10, but given he is going to be here and ever present I think we'll get the most from him as an AM in a 4-3-3.
Good article on Oscar, under Mourinho he's developed from a #10 to more of a #8 and is vital in helping Chelsea maintain their shield centrally when Fabregas goes walkabout. While Rooney isn't as technically good our skillful, I think his game intelligence to drop back in to help midfield at the right times is in tact.
I'm not sure Rooney would want to play from the left and it's a role I think LvG would prefer dribbling and pace in, plus Rooney's tracking back centrally would be lost.
30m for best young English striker around, 15m because we're United, 15m because it's Levy. Honestly, it would probably cost somewhere between 50-60m to buy Kane, and after one great season, I'm not sure it's worth it. If he replicates his form next season, then definitely worth a bid.
Just seen an Independent article mentioning us wanting Cavani
Is the talk of Muller above coming from somewhere or just hope? He's undoubtedly top class, but I do find him a truly hateful prick.
Don't particularly rate Cavani. Has always seemed underwhelming whenever I've seen him play. I don't think he's anywhere near as good as he was when he played for Napoli. Also, he's 28. Not really a long term signing.
Some would argue that if RVP moved about and made himself available for a pass, he'd receive more passes and score.
The problem is that our strikers seem to hide behind opposition defenders. So when an attacking midfielder is ready to make a pass to a striker, no striker is available. Hence a sideway or backwards pass is performed.
The other problem is pace. Next time we break, watch how fast Di Maria runs upfield. Meanwhile our 2 strikers are not even in the same screen -they are nowhere to be seen because they are still catching up. Falcao looks like he is running with lead boots and RVP was never the fastest.
To win the league, we wont need a super fast striker. But if we want to compete well in the CL, we will need a high end striker, with pace.
It's our CEO's job - trust E.Woodward to get the deal done.
I also think that Woodward has benefited a lot by having LVG behind him, when making the deals.
When Moyes was around, if Woodward wanted to discuss suitable fees, Moyes would have no idea as he himself, had never negotiated players for such high sums of money.
Moyes would probably have cold sweats if a fee of £60M was being discussed.
I can well imagine LVG telling Woodward in no uncertain terms, that if he wants Di Maria (for example), that he needs to pay up, or lose the deal. The same will hold true for Kane.
I do agree with what someone said earlier though, that perhaps we should leave it for another year; if in 12 months time Kane is maintaining his stellar form, then go in a with a new British transfer record.
Kane would cost an arm and a leg. There's other promising players around ex Dybala
Kanes already in the PL. That counts.
So is Carroll.
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